Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Martin or some other kind soul, Could you please help educate those of us who are not experts on this issue (copyright uses) and post a bit of info... a thumbnail sketch of how Bill could have used the copyrighted info correctly? I know I can go research and learn this myself, but if any of you kind souls know enough to give us a general " go-by " I would really appreciated it. Then maybe Martin's or other such important copyrighted info could be used correctly. I, like Bill here, thought one could use pieces of copyrighted info if it were correctly attributed to the source. Thanks, Christina --- seraphimstouch wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I just had an experience that I wanted to > share with you all. In my > love and zeal for aromatherapy and desire to share > knowledge and promote > safety, I made a horrendous error. [snip} > e-mail from Martin: > > " I have just discovered that you are reproducing > data in contravention of > the copyright notices in Plant Aromatics. This is > an infringement of > both my own copyright and the copyright granted to > me by the original > publishers. [snip] Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions./design_giveaway/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Re copyrights. >Could you please help educate those of us who are not experts on >this issue (copyright uses) and post a bit of info. Yes happy to. My publication 'Plant Aromatics' is a hybrid gleaned from many different sources. I had to obtain copyright clearance from the original publishers in order to republish that data in full. At the time RIFM and IFRA (for example) did not have a web site that carried some of the information that is in my publication. Now they do, but the information they put on their site still remains the copyright of the original scientific publication who printed it, rather than with those organizations. Therefore, that information should not be duplicated without the permission of the original publishers who own the copyrights. >I, like Bill here, thought one could use pieces of copyrighted info >if it were correctly attributed to the source. Therein lies the problem in that the data in PA comes from numerous different sources and my publication may not be the original source. So in the case of my publication the copyrights issues are a complex minefield. As it is impossible for me to say " this is the copyright of " to each entry, it is clearly easier to say everything is my copyright - or the original publishers - and nothing may be reproduced without permission. So the easiest way out of this is to say exact figures may not be reproduced as they are not my copyright, but general guidelines can be and I gave Bill some examples of that. I had to bang many doors before I extracted reproduction permissions to publish PA. The permissions granted were limited to a manual for the trade rather than as a published book for the public. That is why it has no ISBN number and can't be got in bookshops. I do not want to rattle the cage of those generous people who gave me those permissions, by making the information free to access and having it spread all over the web. At the time I considered that the most important thing was to get this information out to the trade rather than it all being locked away in scientific publications and unavailable to the average therapist. In the files section on ATFE is a general guideline leaflet on the safety of oils that I said anyone can reproduce. If you would like that to go in this groups archive let Cris. know and I will send her a copy or she can just copy it off of ATFE. It took two years of solid work to assemble the second section of PA and the sales have never recovered that cost. Therefore I am reluctant to allow too much free access to that information. If people want solid information they should pay for referenced information and not expect to trawl it up for free from web sites and newsgroups where it may well be wrong, not relevent or corrupted. Martin Watt http://www.aromamedical.com ---------------------- , Christina <tcmresources> wrote: > Martin or some other kind soul, > > Could you please help educate those of us who are not > experts on this issue (copyright uses) and post a bit > of info... a thumbnail sketch of how Bill could have > used the copyrighted info correctly? I know I can go > research and learn this myself, but if any of you kind > souls know enough to give us a general " go-by " I would > really appreciated it. Then maybe Martin's or other > such important copyrighted info could be used > correctly. > > I, like Bill here, thought one could use pieces of > copyrighted info if it were correctly attributed to > the source. > > Thanks, Christina > > --- seraphimstouch@a... wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I just had an experience that I wanted to > > share with you all. In my > > love and zeal for aromatherapy and desire to share > > knowledge and promote > > safety, I made a horrendous error. [snip} > > > e-mail from Martin: > > > > " I have just discovered that you are reproducing > > data in contravention of > > the copyright notices in Plant Aromatics. This is > > an infringement of > > both my own copyright and the copyright granted to > > me by the original > > publishers. [snip] > > > > Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway > http://promotions./design_giveaway/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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