Knee support

[Guest guest]

Hello Group ... My Father in Law is 84 years old, He suffers from Osto-Arthritis

of the knee which is limiting his mobility.

There are various types of knee support on the market, mostly for sports

injuries, but some are specifically for Arthritis of the knee.

Has anyone used one of these supports with any degree of success I wonder ?

 

Thanks in advance - Ray.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Get a copy of the Swanson Vitamin catalog and read it. There are many

good options, but the best IMHO is MSM is large quantity. I buy it by

the kilo and take mass quantities when the joints tell me to... along

with smaller quantities of many other joint supplements. Most are based

on good old chicken cartilage. As Dr. Wallach says, " You could just go

down to Colonial Sanders and take the cartilage from the dumpster bones. "

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I am a RN w/ rheumatoid arthritis and I wanted to warn your group to be CAREFUL

using MSM

IF they are also pulmonary hypertensive. It can make it far worse(per a leading

cardiac MD ,

and it's already a deadly disease.

Thank you!

Pam

 

 

, Jim Clark <huuman60

wrote:

>

> Get a copy of the Swanson Vitamin catalog and read it. There are many

> good options, but the best IMHO is MSM is large quantity. I buy it by

> the kilo and take mass quantities when the joints tell me to... along

> with smaller quantities of many other joint supplements. Most are based

> on good old chicken cartilage. As Dr. Wallach says, " You could just go

> down to Colonial Sanders and take the cartilage from the dumpster bones. "

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The fact is that the same good results that MSM yields for knees and

joints carries over to the circulatory system health. Just as it it

makes joints more pliable, it does so with arteries and veins. Most

would agree that pliability is a good thing in these cases. The

problem that MSM generally avoids is gastric distress... a common

problem with large doses of glucosamine and chondroitin sulfates as well

as Hyaluronic acid all of which would produce similar results if they

could be taken in adequate quantity and were equally well absorbed.

 

If these people were hypertensive, more pliable arteries and veins

would go a long way to relieving the condition.

 

Tell us about your " leading cardiac " MD's sources and the rationality

behind your assertion.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sounds to me like you may be in the wrong group here... this is called

" alternative medicine forum " .

 

While Chondroitin is a large molecule and possibly difficult to

assimilate, I have never read anything that would lead me to believe

that it could ever cause cancer and I never read that MSM has ever

triggered hypertension or heart disease (from any other source but

you). Considering the wealth of information available on these two

rather simple supplements, I confess that I find your source

unconvincing.

 

From a personal standpoint: I snapped my ACL thirty-five years ago

skiing. I elected not to have surgery after I was told that I had a 10%

chance of never walking again if I got it. It got back the knee to

about 80% (as the doctors said that it would) by building up the

muscles... until I reached fifty. Then the joint started to

progressively deteriorate. At fifty-five, I saw a sports doctor/

surgeon. He recommended a steel knee brace, but said that knee

replacement was in order. Even with the brace, the joint would

separate doing such menial things as crawling across a bed or jumping in

the air. During that time, I also had two huge sciatica attacks

resulting from favoring that leg... that left me crawling for weeks.

To top that, I had a congenital juvenile arthritis hip joint problem on

that side that started at age six that left me unable to drive a car at

age 26 for several months... and always bothered me to some degree.

When I was a kid, I thought that it was polio and I would not tell

anyone about it.

 

After going through the gamut of supplements including, of course,

Glucosamine, I came upon MSM in large quantity. I started with a

heaping tablespoonful per day and at one point, I was taking a half cup

a day... at least. Today that knee is better than the other. Not only

that, but I have no tennis elbow... or neck pain... or foot pain... or

hip pain pain... or sciatica... or finger pain... all of which were

commonly afflicting me during that era. Today, my blood pressure is

120/ 80 and I play tennis three times a week. At this point, I have

nearly forgotten what joint pain feels like. I am almost 68 years old

and take absolutely no drugs.

 

Am I making a mistake here? Which drugs do you recommend?