Commentary about US Congressional health reform proposals.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing that well written article.

I fully understand the argument for rationing.

I do, however, hope for someone smarter than me to come up with a better

alternative.

I would like to see one that includes some sort of patient decision in the mix.

 

 

 

 

 

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" bestsurprise2002 " <bestsurprise2002

MCS-Canada

Friday, July 17, 2009 11:19:16 PM

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Why We Must Ration Health Care

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By PETER SINGER

Published: July 15, 2009

 

 

You have advanced kidney cancer. It will kill you, probably in the next

year or two. A drug called Sutent slows the spread of the cancer and may give

you an extra six months, but at a cost of $54,000. Is a few more months

worth that much?

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[Guest guest]

Dear Kathy,

 

Perhaps the best alternative is to avoid all doctors and hospitals! The Amish

are said to not visit doctors, so it is possible. As far as I am concerned, the

medical establishment is only good for sewing up lacerations (sometimes). Even

then, you are opening up yourself to secondary infections (like my wife

experienced).

 

God's medicine has already been provided to us in the form of herbs; all drugs

are nothing but inferior derivatives of those whole medicines. People need to

learn from the old medicine men, or from eclectic doctors from 100 years ago.

Actually, there are some good herbal colleges that teach this worthwhile

information. It's too bad that their graduates are not accepted by society in

general, and the insurance industry in particular.

 

John from Israel

 

, Kathy Walden <kswalden

wrote:

>

> Thanks for sharing that well written article.

> I fully understand the argument for rationing.

> I do, however, hope for someone smarter than me to come up with a better

alternative.

> I would like to see one that includes some sort of patient decision in the

mix.

>

>  

>

>

>

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> " bestsurprise2002 " <bestsurprise2002

> MCS-Canada

> Friday, July 17, 2009 11:19:16 PM

> << >> Commentary about US Congressional

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> Why We Must Ration Health Care

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> By PETER SINGER

> Published: July 15, 2009

>

>

> You have advanced kidney cancer. It will kill you, probably in the next

> year or two. A drug called Sutent slows the spread of the cancer and may give

> you an extra six months, but at a cost of $54,000. Is a few more months

> worth that much?

> [CONTINUED.. ...]

>

>

[Guest guest]

I believe exactly as you do John. (from Israel)

In addition to the huge risk of contracting MRSA, and other sorts of staph

infections, there is the risk of being given harmful pharmaceuticals. I don't

consider 'pills' to be an appropriate treatment for ailments and 'dis' ease.

Unless you actually get at the root of the problem, then a pill to mask the

symptoms is super inefficient in the long run. The best way to cut down on

spending waste is to stop the big pharma from being allowed to pass off bogus

and marginally helpful 'pills' as actual cures. They should be forced to

withdrawal their commercials from the television airwaves and they have to be

stopped from funding so called 'medicine trials' where they use healthy subjects

anyway... which does not tell you anything about how a sick person is going to

fare with that 'pill'. No more should they be allowed to literally fund medical

schools by providing the text books that teach students to give a pill out for

every symptom regardless of if they

know what the symptom etiology is or where the  symptoms originated from even.

The US has terrible health care. They ought to just admit that and get it over

with.

 

 

looking for a few good women and New Yorkers

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yburkett <yburkett

 

Tuesday, 21 July, 2009 5:29:32

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health reform proposals.

 

 

Dear Kathy,

 

Perhaps the best alternative is to avoid all doctors and hospitals! The Amish

are said to not visit doctors, so it is possible. As far as I am concerned, the

medical establishment is only good for sewing up lacerations (sometimes). Even

then, you are opening up yourself to secondary infections (like my wife

experienced) .

 

God's medicine has already been provided to us in the form of herbs; all drugs

are nothing but inferior derivatives of those whole medicines. People need to

learn from the old medicine men, or from eclectic doctors from 100 years ago.

Actually, there are some good herbal colleges that teach this worthwhile

information. It's too bad that their graduates are not accepted by society in

general, and the insurance industry in particular.

 

John from Israel

 

Alternative- Medicine- Forum@ s.com, Kathy Walden <kswalden@..

..> wrote:

>

> Thanks for sharing that well written article.

> I fully understand the argument for rationing.

> I do, however, hope for someone smarter than me to come up with a better

alternative.

> I would like to see one that includes some sort of patient decision in the

mix.

>

>  

>

>

>

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> Why We Must Ration Health Care

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> (http://www.nytimes. com/2009/ 07/19/magazine/ 19healthcare- t.html?pagewante

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>

> By PETER SINGER

> Published: July 15, 2009

>

>

> You have advanced kidney cancer. It will kill you, probably in the next

> year or two. A drug called Sutent slows the spread of the cancer and may give

> you an extra six months, but at a cost of $54,000. Is a few more months

> worth that much?

> [CONTINUED.. ...]

>

>