Organics, is it better?

[Guest guest]

Hi Ya'll,

This is another one of those Hot subjects!

The question, is organic labeled foods really any better than

conventional foods?

 

Before you make a hasty choice, let us understand a little more

about what Organics means.

In a strict sense of the chemical meaning, it means a product

which is bound with some source of Carbon!!

So legally , any food which is grown by any means , whither with

all kinds of Poisons or Not, is Organic, because all food has some

level of carbon in it!!

 

To make matters worse, since the Government has gotten involved

in the making of regulations covering Organic foods, they have made

it a laughing matter, now, because a lot of the times what you get

that is Labeled Organic is not any better than the rest of the food

if it is comming from a commercial enity.

 

Ohh, I can hear the crys of Fraud already, but bear with me,

before you commit yourself!

 

What I mean by a commercial enity, is a place which generally

wholesales to the retailers in large quanities and the retailers pass

it on to you.

The reason I am telling you this is because if you would get hold

of some of the Government rules on what may and what may not be used

to grow the foods and still be Labeled Organic, is a joke in it's

self!!

The rules have now been written to allow big commercial growers

who have the " right " connections to grow their crops and still use

some of the same poisons as before, but now the labels on some of

these poisons have been changed so it looks like another product and

or now is called a nutrient or foliar aide etc, and as most people

don't understand chemistry very well, it looks ok!!

 

There are other times where the grower obtains extra favors from

his inspector, allowing things to be used which are not good to eat.

 

These problems are most common in the very big producers, because

it is business as usual!!!

 

But if you may find a local person who is a small operator,

growing for the local market and he doesn't use any Poisons, then you

may get a better product, than the commercial producer as a general

rule!!!

 

What is more important than if it is labeled organic, is if it has

been grown without any kinds of Poisons and if it is vine ripe and

fresh and if it has a high " Brix " reading(this will tell you that it

is high in Alkaline minerals and natural sugars) , which means it is

Healthy for you to eat, and you will be able to taste the difference

of it's better quality, with NO problem, over any other food of the

same kind, from any other grower who doesn't have quality food!!!

 

The original idea that started out, pushing organics, was to be a

Quality food which didn't have any Poisons used on it and to be

raised in Harmony with nature. As always is the case when it becomes

a big business, then Big money gets into the action and ruins the

Quality of it all by figuring out another way to profit from the

public, by cutting corners and providing a less Quality product for

more money , and you the public get Screwed again!!

 

The best way for you to get Quality food is to learn to grow it

yourself and then you may pick it vine ripe and fresh .

For those living in the city or in an apartment, you may grow

sprouts to get fresh food and or if you have enough room you may

container garden.

You need very little room to grow a lot of good food if you know

how to do it!!

 

One oak barrel cut in half and set up and filled with the correct

mixes of soil and other minerals and organic matter may grow a HUGH

amount of food and it only takes a place about 3 feet wide and 6 feet

long to hold these !!

 

If it is ok with the owners of this forum and there is enough

interest, I would be Happy to share with you some of the ideas how to

grow Healthy Mineralized vegetables which will taste sweeter than any

you may buy, and without using any Poisions.

For if the plant is Highly Mineralized and Healthy, then the bugs

will not bother the plant!!!

Bugs only eat plants which are too poor Quality to keep the person

Healthy. For when the person is to eat these plants or fruit or

vegatables from the plant or tree, where Poison was used to stop the

bugs from eating the poor quality food, the person does not stay

Healthy!!!

 

More later if allowed and there is interest.

 

Smile Tis your choice!

[Guest guest]

imoreless <duze24 wrote: Howdy from the hills of Tennessee (new poster.)I am interested if you can share this info. Tis someone making choice Hi Ya'll, This is another one of those Hot subjects! The question, is organic labeled foods really any better than conventional foods? Before you make a hasty choice, let us understand a little more about what Organics means. In a strict sense of the chemical meaning, it means a product which is bound with some source of Carbon!! So legally , any food which is grown by any means , whither with all kinds of Poisons or Not, is Organic, because all food has

some level of carbon in it!! To make matters worse, since the Government has gotten involved in the making of regulations covering Organic foods, they have made it a laughing matter, now, because a lot of the times what you get that is Labeled Organic is not any better than the rest of the food if it is comming from a commercial enity. Ohh, I can hear the crys of Fraud already, but bear with me, before you commit yourself! What I mean by a commercial enity, is a place which generally wholesales to the retailers in large quanities and the retailers pass it on to you. The reason I am telling you this is because if you would get hold of some of the Government rules on what may and what may not be used to grow the foods and still be Labeled Organic, is a joke in it's self!! The rules have now been written to allow big

commercial growers who have the "right" connections to grow their crops and still use some of the same poisons as before, but now the labels on some of these poisons have been changed so it looks like another product and or now is called a nutrient or foliar aide etc, and as most people don't understand chemistry very well, it looks ok!! There are other times where the grower obtains extra favors from his inspector, allowing things to be used which are not good to eat. These problems are most common in the very big producers, because it is business as usual!!! But if you may find a local person who is a small operator, growing for the local market and he doesn't use any Poisons, then you may get a better product, than the commercial producer as a general rule!!! What is more important than if it is labeled organic, is if it has been grown

without any kinds of Poisons and if it is vine ripe and fresh and if it has a high " Brix" reading(this will tell you that it is high in Alkaline minerals and natural sugars) , which means it is Healthy for you to eat, and you will be able to taste the difference of it's better quality, with NO problem, over any other food of the same kind, from any other grower who doesn't have quality food!!! The original idea that started out, pushing organics, was to be a Quality food which didn't have any Poisons used on it and to be raised in Harmony with nature. As always is the case when it becomes a big business, then Big money gets into the action and ruins the Quality of it all by figuring out another way to profit from the public, by cutting corners and providing a less Quality product for more money , and you the public get Screwed again!! The best way for you to get Quality food is to learn

to grow it yourself and then you may pick it vine ripe and fresh . For those living in the city or in an apartment, you may grow sprouts to get fresh food and or if you have enough room you may container garden. You need very little room to grow a lot of good food if you know how to do it!! One oak barrel cut in half and set up and filled with the correct mixes of soil and other minerals and organic matter may grow a HUGH amount of food and it only takes a place about 3 feet wide and 6 feet long to hold these !! If it is ok with the owners of this forum and there is enough interest, I would be Happy to share with you some of the ideas how to grow Healthy Mineralized vegetables which will taste sweeter than any you may buy, and without using any Poisions. For if the plant is Highly Mineralized and Healthy, then the bugs will not bother the

plant!!! Bugs only eat plants which are too poor Quality to keep the person Healthy. For when the person is to eat these plants or fruit or vegatables from the plant or tree, where Poison was used to stop the bugs from eating the poor quality food, the person does not stay Healthy!!! More later if allowed and there is interest. Smile Tis your choice!

 

[Guest guest]

Here Here! I am so glad someone has

discovered that just because something says it is organic and even ‘certified

organic’ it just may not be. The big guys are finding ways around all the

terms set forth by the gov’t. If you can find a small producer such as a

CSA, who is all natural, even certified naturally grown, you can be sure of the

product you put in your mouth. And yes even better – grow it yourself!

 

Kathy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Boonsboro, Maryland

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

L egacy M anor, LLC

Heritage

Turkey, Heritage Pork, Berkshire Pork, Angus Beef, Wagyu Beef, Lamb, Goat,

Pastured Broilers, Roasters and Capons, Duck and Chicken Eggs

" The way food used to taste "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of caryn wright

Wednesday, January 25, 2006

8:25 PM

To:

herbal remedies

Re: Herbal Remedies -

Organics, is it better?

 

 

 

 

 

imoreless

<duze24 wrote:

 

 

Howdy from the hills of Tennessee (new poster.)I am interested if

you can share this info. Tis someone making choice

 

 

 

Hi Ya'll,

 

 

 

This is another one of

those Hot subjects!

The question, is organic

labeled foods really any better than

conventional foods?

Before you make a

hasty choice, let us understand a little more

about what Organics means.

In a strict sense of the

chemical meaning, it means a product

which is bound with some source of Carbon!!

So legally , any food which is

grown by any means , whither with

all kinds of Poisons or Not, is Organic, because

all food has some

level of carbon in it!!

 

To make matters worse, since

the Government has gotten involved

in the making of regulations covering Organic

foods, they have made

it a laughing matter, now, because a lot of the

times what you get

that is Labeled Organic is not any better than the

rest of the food

if it is comming from a commercial enity.

 

Ohh, I can hear the crys of

Fraud already, but bear with me,

before you commit yourself!

 

What I mean by a commercial

enity, is a place which generally

wholesales to the retailers in large quanities and

the retailers pass

it on to you.

The reason I am telling you

this is because if you would get hold

of some of the Government rules on what may and

what may not be used

to grow the foods and still be Labeled Organic, is

a joke in it's

self!!

The rules have now been written

to allow big commercial growers

who have the " right " connections to grow

their crops and still use

some of the same poisons as before, but now the

labels on some of

these poisons have been changed so it looks like

another product and

or now is called a nutrient or foliar aide etc,

and as most people

don't understand chemistry very well, it looks

ok!!

 

There are other times where the

grower obtains extra favors from

his inspector, allowing things to be used which

are not good to eat.

 

These problems are most common

in the very big producers, because

it is business as usual!!!

 

But if you may find a local

person who is a small operator,

growing for the local market and he doesn't use

any Poisons, then you

may get a better product, than the commercial

producer as a general

rule!!!

 

What is more important than if it is

labeled organic, is if it has

been grown without any kinds of Poisons and if it

is vine ripe and

fresh and if it has a high " Brix "

reading(this will tell you that it

is high in Alkaline minerals and natural sugars) ,

which means it is

Healthy for you to eat, and you will be able to

taste the difference

of it's better quality, with NO problem, over any

other food of the

same kind, from any other grower who doesn't have

quality food!!!

 

The original idea that started

out, pushing organics, was to be a

Quality food which didn't have any Poisons used on

it and to be

raised in Harmony with nature. As always is the

case when it becomes

a big business, then Big money gets into the

action and ruins the

Quality of it all by figuring out another way to

profit from the

public, by cutting corners and providing a less

Quality product for

more money , and you the public get Screwed

again!!

 

The best way for you to get

Quality food is to learn to grow it

yourself and then you may pick it vine ripe and

fresh .

For those living in the city or

in an apartment, you may grow

sprouts to get fresh food and or if you have

enough room you may

container garden.

You need very little room to grow a

lot of good food if you know

how to do it!!

 

One oak barrel cut in half and

set up and filled with the correct

mixes of soil and other minerals and organic

matter may grow a HUGH

amount of food and it only takes a place about 3

feet wide and 6 feet

long to hold these !!

 

If it is ok with the owners of

this forum and there is enough

interest, I would be Happy to share with you some

of the ideas how to

grow Healthy Mineralized vegetables which will

taste sweeter than any

you may buy, and without using any Poisions.

For if the plant is Highly Mineralized and

Healthy, then the bugs

will not bother the plant!!!

Bugs only eat plants which are too

poor Quality to keep the person

Healthy. For when the person is to eat these

plants or fruit or

vegatables from the plant or tree, where Poison

was used to stop the

bugs from eating the poor quality food, the person

does not stay

Healthy!!!

 

More later if allowed and there is

interest.

 

Smile Tis your choice!