Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Hey Everybody, Is there anything that can be used to alleviate the pain of accute (violent) migrain headaches? I would appreciate any information you have on the subject. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Personally I take Nat Mur 6x three times a day when you feel it coming on to help a lot. For me migraines happen quikly and you chew it or let it dissolve under the tongue for fast relief. Also try Sepia 6x too. Good Luck. Jackie "life_loverfl" <life_loverflherbal remedies To: herbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - Accute Migrain HeadachesTue, 28 Feb 2006 03:21:02 -0000Hey Everybody,Is there anything that can be used to alleviate the pain of accute(violent) migrain headaches? I would appreciate any information youhave on the subject.RegardsFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Skull cap tincture and feverfew tincture has given us great results. My research tells me that skullcap taken regularly is more effective, whereas feverfew works when you need it.... my experience has found that the skullcap works quickly and doesnt taste as bad as the feverfew. I keep them both on hand. blessings.. spot herbal remedies , " life_loverfl " <life_loverfl wrote: > > Hey Everybody, > > Is there anything that can be used to alleviate the pain of accute > (violent) migrain headaches? I would appreciate any information you > have on the subject. > > Regards > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Hi! I'm a licensed massage therapist. In school we received some great information on what are called " trigger points " . Google will also have great resources. Basically, what these are, are portions of hyper-irritabe muscle tissue that refer pain to OTHER areas that don't seem to relate in any way. These patterns have been established and are predictable. Often, you don't feel the trigger point--you feel the referring pain! Almost all headaches, if not due to dehydration, low blood sugar, toxicity (like carbon monoxide), blood pressure, or some organic cause, are almost ALWAYS due to trigger points. This goes for stress headaches, cluster headaches, and migraines are no different. The difference between these headaches is often simply a matter of the location of the trigger point, because different TrPs will have different " referral zones " . (A remarkably brilliant lady by the name of Janet Travell developed the phenomenon while working as a resident MD student; she went on to be the first lady physician in the white house in the '60s. She ain't your typical MD, BTW.) " But what about the nausea, vomiting, blurred vision, auras, sensitivity to light and sound, etc? " you ask. " How can you explain THAT with trigger points?? " Very good question. See, most migraines involve an entire half of your head. This just so happens to be the combination of a couple referral zones from TrPs in several muscles that have the same action. Muscles that perform the same job will very likely develop problems around the same time as well, so it's common to see these zones in groups, though they can exist individually, too. But anyway, back to answering the question. The particular " problem muscle " in the case of a migraine gets TIGHT when it develops these TrPs. It also happens to be located right next to a very important nerve in your neck that affects your senses and equilibrium. When this muscle gets tight, it irritates this nerve, causing those seemingly unrelated symptoms. (FYI: This muscle really is a little bugger; it can develop so many different TrPs even though it's pretty small. Each TrP has its OWN referral zone. This means that TrPs in this muscle can mimick many different conditions. Ever woken up in the middle of the night thinking you had a middle ear infection and the pain went away in the morning, or it otherwise turns out you didn't have an infection? One of the referral zones is RIGHT into the middle ear, so it FEELS like you have an infection. INteresting, huh?) About 70-80% of ALL the pain out there is due to nothing but Trigger Points. The good news is, these can be done away with, and without drugs! Call around to find a professional massage therapist who KNOWS TRIGGER POINT therapy. Make sure they have the charts either on their wall, (or burned into their heads after years of experience.) To go VERY deep into these is usually not necessary. Firm pressure, applied to the SOURCE, not necessarily the sore spot, and held long enough to stop blood flow, will usually stop the spasm. Then, stretching is important. This is usually what is known as " passive stretching " while you lay there and relax while the professional gently and thoroughly stretches the site of the now-former TrP. The MDs have figured out (finally) that there are indeed TrPs. They shoot them full of cortizone, though, to numb the muscle. That's all well and good, except the pain comes right back when the shot wears off, ks the TrP itself hasn't been dealt with. So they have half the battle down pat, but not the other half. I know that was long, but so many ppl don't know ANYTHING about this stuff, I just found out about it a few years ago, so I felt the need to explain it in detail. If anyone has quesitons, plz feel free to email me. Hugs and hope you get better!! ~Jyoti herbal remedies , " life_loverfl " <life_loverfl wrote: > > Hey Everybody, > > Is there anything that can be used to alleviate the pain of accute > (violent) migrain headaches? I would appreciate any information you > have on the subject. > > Regards > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 This is very interesting, as I have been having these headaches for 6 years. They come to my left temple and if I don't take something soon, then I get really nauseated. They last once a month for 3 days and then they disappear, until the next month. Sometimes they will happen during my cycle and sometimes not. The think I can always count on is the three days. I know on the forth day I will wake up pain free. I will have to check into this. Thanks so much!supervixen08 <supervixen08 wrote: Hi!I'm a licensed massage therapist. In school we received some greatinformation on what are called "trigger points". Google will alsohave great resources. Basically, what these are, are portions ofhyper-irritabe muscle tissue that refer pain to OTHER areas that don'tseem to relate in any way. These patterns have been established andare predictable. Often, you don't feel the trigger point--you feelthe referring pain! Almost all headaches, if not due to dehydration,low blood sugar, toxicity (like carbon monoxide), blood pressure, orsome organic cause, are almost ALWAYS due to trigger points. Thisgoes for stress headaches, cluster headaches, and migraines are nodifferent. The difference between these headaches is often simply amatter of the location of the trigger point, because different TrPswill have different "referral zones". (A remarkably brilliant lady bythe name of Janet Travell developed the phenomenon while working as aresident MD student; she went on to be the first lady physician in thewhite house in the '60s. She ain't your typical MD, BTW.)"But what about the nausea, vomiting, blurred vision, auras,sensitivity to light and sound, etc?" you ask. "How can you explainTHAT with trigger points??" Very good question. See, most migrainesinvolve an entire half of your head. This just so happens to be thecombination of a couple referral zones from TrPs in several musclesthat have the same action. Muscles that perform the same job willvery likely develop problems around the same time as well, so it'scommon to see these zones in groups, though they can existindividually, too. But anyway, back to answering the question. Theparticular "problem muscle" in the case of a migraine gets TIGHT whenit develops these TrPs. It also happens to be located right next to avery important nerve in your neck that affects your senses andequilibrium. When this muscle gets tight, it irritates this nerve,causing those seemingly unrelated symptoms. (FYI: This muscle reallyis a little bugger; it can develop so many different TrPs even thoughit's pretty small. Each TrP has its OWN referral zone. This meansthat TrPs in this muscle can mimick many different conditions. Everwoken up in the middle of the night thinking you had a middle earinfection and the pain went away in the morning, or it otherwise turnsout you didn't have an infection? One of the referral zones is RIGHTinto the middle ear, so it FEELS like you have an infection. INteresting, huh?)About 70-80% of ALL the pain out there is due to nothing but TriggerPoints. The good news is, these can be done away with, and withoutdrugs! Call around to find a professional massage therapist who KNOWSTRIGGER POINT therapy. Make sure they have the charts either on theirwall, (or burned into their heads after years of experience.) To goVERY deep into these is usually not necessary. Firm pressure, appliedto the SOURCE, not necessarily the sore spot, and held long enough tostop blood flow, will usually stop the spasm. Then, stretching isimportant. This is usually what is known as "passive stretching"while you lay there and relax while the professional gently andthoroughly stretches the site of the now-former TrP.The MDs have figured out (finally) that there are indeed TrPs. Theyshoot them full of cortizone, though, to numb the muscle. That's allwell and good, except the pain comes right back when the shot wearsoff, ks the TrP itself hasn't been dealt with. So they have half thebattle down pat, but not the other half.I know that was long, but so many ppl don't know ANYTHING about thisstuff, I just found out about it a few years ago, so I felt the needto explain it in detail. If anyone has quesitons, plz feel free toemail me. :)Hugs and hope you get better!!~Jyotiherbal remedies , "life_loverfl"<life_loverfl wrote:>> Hey Everybody,> > Is there anything that can be used to alleviate the pain of accute> (violent) migrain headaches? I would appreciate any information you> have on the subject.> > Regards> Lynnda Mother to: Brandon, Nephi,Eilish and 6 Angels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 You're totally welcome. And what you added makes complete sense, because during our cycles, the hormonal changes that occur will draw out some of the minerals from your muscles, making them cramp up. This is particularly noticeable in the abdominal-pelvic area, manifesting as the " cramps " we get. But this same thing DOES take place throughOUT the body, even though it's not quite as prominent. So, all your muscles sort of cramp up or tighten, and this makes it MUCH more likely for one to experience migraines (or any other TrP-related symptom) during their cycle. (And no, Big Pharma, it's NOT something we need drugs for! LOL) Perhaps a supplement of active calcium (Google a list of foods that naturally contain calcium; I'd try to get it from other foods besides milk and other calcium-fortified foods because synthetic or sub-standard vitamins are usually used in the fortification.) Also, a good massage before your cycle (or even the first day of, since it's perfectly safe) will get your fluids circulating and sort of balance your nervous system, which is absolutely crucial, and underrated. The temples are a classic referral zone for TrPs in the fibers of the upper trapezius. These fibers run in conjunction with a muscle called the SCM, which is the " little bugger " I wrote about earlier. THAT's the migraine one. So, the two muscles are related. Since the muscle fibers run in the same direction, they tend to develop dysfunction at the same time. So, that ALSO makes total sense that it would start in your temples--the culprit being the traps--and then move onto surrounding similar muscles, such as the SCM, thus giving you a splitting migraine later. Hope that helps! Get well! ~Jyoti herbal remedies , Lynnda Coyle <naturalwayoflife wrote: > > This is very interesting, as I have been having these headaches for 6 years. They come to my left temple and if I don't take something soon, then I get really nauseated. They last once a month for 3 days and then they disappear, until the next month. Sometimes they will happen during my cycle and sometimes not. The think I can always count on is the three days. I know on the forth day I will wake up pain free. > I will have to check into this. > Thanks so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 SO great to hear I am not nuts when I tell my husband to press on the back of my neck to help my headaches! Brushing my hair seems to help too. I can remember doing the same to my mom years ago. I also use ice packs. My cousin jumps in the shower with hot hot water on her neck. Thanks for the info! AND for making me more sure than ever that I need to go to school for this. I pick up bits and pieces of things like this, and experiement (kind of) on my husband. He was kind of shocked the first time I really rubbed his feet, and had relief in his back. Stacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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