[truthquestonline] UNDERGROUND TUNNELS and BASES...BORING MACHINES

April 2, 2008

I am forwarding this for those interested.. I posted something earlier

today about Phil Schneider... this email just came in and I thought

that's curious that this arrives just as I had made a referral to his

pages.

I promise, this is as far off topic as I will go..

Hanneke

At 10:30 AM 2/04/2008, you wrote:

The first section of this page

was written by

Phil

Schneider:

Photo of United States Air Force tunnel boring

machine at Little Skull Mountain, Nevada, USA, December 1982. There are

many rumors of secret military tunnels in the United States. If the

rumors are true, machines such as the one shown here are used to make the

tunnels. (Source: U.S. Department of Energy.)

This is a $13 million tunnel boring machine

(TBM) used for tunneling at the Nevada Test Site. (Remember that Area 51

is part of the test site.) Many other types of TBMs are used by many

government agencies, including the 'nuclear powered TBM' [NTBM] that

melts solid rock and leaves behind glass-like walls.

Most tunneling activity is under military installations and all

information is highly restricted. Former employees of said facilities

have surfaced over the years to talk of massive underground installations

in places like Area 51, the Northrop facility in Antelope Valley,

California (rumored to have 42 levels), and the Lockheed installation

near Edwards, California.

The 'Black Budget' currently consumes $1.25 trillion per year. At

least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned with

deep underground military bases. Presently, there are 129 deep

underground military bases in the United States. They have been building

these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early 1940's. Some

of them were built even earlier than that. These bases are basically

large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-leviton trains

that have speeds up to Mach 2. Several books have been written about this

activity.

The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are

basically whole cities underground. They all are between 2.66 and 4.25

cubic miles in size. They have laser-drilling machines that can drill a

tunnel seven miles long in one day. I was involved in building an

addition to the deep underground military base at Dulce, which is

probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles

deep. I helped hollow out more than 13 deep underground military bases in

the United States.

_____________________________

More thought-provoking images of tunnel boring

equipment:

_____________________________

From Dr Bill Deagle's

December 2006 Granada Forum Lecture:

I took care of John Fialla, who was best friends with Phil Schneider.

How many people know about Phil Schneider? Well, they were using

tunneling machines back in the mid-90s that could tunnel through a rock

face at seven miles per day, that could cut through a rock face with

high-energy impact lasers that could blow the nano-sized particles of

rock so that there was no debris left, forming an obsidian-like core, and

laying an inner core for unidirectional maglev trains that travel at Mach

2 to 2.8 underground between these very very powerful and organized

cities.

There's 132 under the United States, an average of 5.36 to 7.24 cubic

miles in size at an average of 1.5 to 4.5 miles underground, built, by

and large, most of them in areas away from geotectonic areas - but

there's going to be lots of new geotectonic faults established when you

have force 11, 12, 13, 14 earthquakes hit the Earth.

Why are they rushing to do this? Because they know that catastrophe

is coming. And where's this money coming from? It's not coming from our

regular Black Op budget. It's coming from the illegal sale of drugs. In

the United States there's at least, by conservative estimates, a quarter

of a trillion to a half a trillion of illegal drugs just sold in the

United States that goes directly into underground budgets, and 90-95%

goes to the DUMBs [Deep Underground Military Bases].

_____________________________

The following was written by Richard Sauder, PhD, adapted from his

book

Underground Bases and

Tunnels

:

The nuclear subterrene (rhymes with 'submarine') was designed at the

Los Alamos National Laboratory, in New Mexico. A number of patents were

filed by scientists at Los Alamos, a few federal technical documents were

written - and then the whole thing just sort of faded away.

Or did it?

Nuclear subterrenes work by melting their way through the rock and

soil, actually vitrifying it as they go, and leaving a neat, solidly

glass-lined tunnel behind them.

The heat is supplied by a compact nuclear reactor that circulates

liquid lithium from the reactor core to the tunnel face, where it melts

the rock. In the process of melting the rock the lithium loses some of

its heat. It is then circulated back along the exterior of the tunneling

machine to help cool the vitrified rock as the tunneling machine forces

its way forward. The cooled lithium then circulates back to the reactor

where the whole cycle starts over. In this way the nuclear subterrene

slices through the rock like a nuclear powered, 2,000 degree Fahrenheit

(1,100 Celsius) earthworm, boring its way deep underground.

The United States Atomic Energy Commission and the United States

Energy Research and Development Administration took out Patents in the

1970s for nuclear subterrenes. The first patent, in 1972 went to the U.S.

Atomic Energy Commission.

The nuclear subterrene has an advantage over mechanical TBMs in that

it produces no muck that must be disposed of by conveyors, trains,

trucks, etc. This greatly simplifies tunneling. If nuclear subterrenes

actually exist (and I do not know if they do) their presence, and the

tunnels they make, could be very hard to detect, for the simple reason

that there would not be the tell-tale muck piles or tailings dumps that

are associated with the conventional tunneling activities.

The 1972 patent makes this clear. It states:

" ... (D)ebris may be disposed of as melted rock both as a lining

for the hole and as a dispersal in cracks produced in the surrounding

rock. The rock-melting drill is of a shape and is propelled under

sufficient pressure to produce and extend cracks in solid rock radially

around the bore by means of hydrostatic pressure developed in the molten

rock ahead of the advancing rock drill penetrator. All melt not used in

glass-lining the bore is forced into the cracks where it freezes and

remains ...

" ... Such a (vitreous) lining eliminates, in most cases, the

expensive and cumbersome problem of debris elimination and at the same

time achieves the advantage of a casing type of bore hole liner. "

(

U.S. Patent No. 3,693,731 dated

Sept. 26, 1972)

There you have it: a tunneling machine that

creates no muck, and leaves a smooth, vitreous (glassy) tunnel lining

behind.

Another patent three years later was for:

A tunneling machine for producing large tunnels in soft rock or wet,

clayey, unconsolidated or bouldery earth by simultaneously detaching the

tunnel core by thermal melting a boundary kerf into the tunnel face and

forming a supporting excavation wall liner by deflecting the molten

materials against the excavation walls to provide, when solidified, a

continuous wall supporting liner, and detaching the tunnel face

circumscribed by the kerf with powered mechanical earth detachment means

and in which the heat required for melting the kerf and liner material is

provided by a compact nuclear reactor.

This 1975 patent further specifies that the

machine is intended to excavate tunnels up to 12 meters in diameter or

more. This means tunnels of 40 ft. or more in diameter. The kerf is the

outside boundary of the tunnel wall that a boring machine gouges out as

it bores through the ground or rock. So, in ordinary English, this

machine will melt a circular boundary into the tunnel face. The melted

rock will be forced to the outside of the tunnel by the tunnel machine,

where it will form a hard, glassy tunnel lining (see the appropriate

detail in the patent itself, as shown in Illustration 41). At the same

time, mechanical tunnel boring equipment will grind up the rock and soil

detached by the melted kerf and pass it to the rear of the machine for

disposal by conveyor, slurry pipeline, etc.

And yet a third patent was issued to the United States Energy

Research and Development Administration just 21 days later, on 27 May

1975 for a machine remarkably similar to the machine patented on 6 May

1975. The abstract describes:

A tunneling machine for producing large tunnels in rock by

progressive detachment of the tunnel core by thermal melting a boundary

kerf into the tunnel face and simultaneously forming an initial tunnel

wall support by deflecting the molten materials against the tunnel walls

to provide, when solidified, a continuous liner; and fragmenting the

tunnel core circumscribed by the kerf by thermal stress fracturing and in

which the heat required for such operations is supplied by a compact

nuclear reactor.

This machine would also be capable of making a

glass-lined tunnel of 40 ft. in diameter or more.

Perhaps some of my readers have heard the same rumors that I have

heard swirling in the UFO literature and on the UFO grapevine: stories of

deep, secret, glass-walled tunnels excavated by laser powered tunneling

machines. I do not know if these stories are true. If they are, however,

it may be that the glass-walled tunnels are made by the nuclear

subterrenes described in these patents. The careful reader will note that

all of these patents were obtained by agencies of the United States

government. Further, all but one of the inventors are from Los Alamos,

New Mexico. Of course, Los Alamos National Lab is itself the subject of

considerable rumors about underground tunnels and chambers, Little Greys

or " EBEs " , and various other covert goings-on.

A 1973 Los Alamos study entitled

Systems and Cost

Analysis for a Nuclear Subterrene Tunneling Machine: A Preliminary

Study, concluded that nuclear subterrene tunneling machines

(NSTMs) would be very cost effective, compared to conventional TBMs.

It stated:

Tunneling costs for NSTMs are very close to those for TBMs, if

operating conditions for TBMs are favorable. However, for variable

formations and unfavorable conditions such as soft, wet, bouldery ground

or very hard rock, the NSTMs are far more effective. Estimates of cost

and percentage use of NSTMs to satisfy U.S. transportation tunnel demands

indicate a potential cost savings of 850 million dollars (1969 dollars)

throughout 1990. An estimated NSTM prototype demonstration cost of $100

million over an eight-year period results in a favorable benefit-to-cost

ratio of 8.5.

....Was the 1973 feasibility study only idle

speculation, and is the astonishingly similar patent two years later only

a wild coincidence? As many a frustrated inventor will tell you, the U.S.

Patent Office only issues the paperwork when it's satisfied that the

thing in question actually works!

In 1975 the National Science Foundation commissioned another cost

analysis of the nuclear subterrene. The A.A. Mathews Construction and

Engineering Company of Rockville, Maryland produced a comprehensive

report with two, separate, lengthy appendices, one 235 and the other 328

pages.

A.A. Mathews calculated costs for constructing three different sized

tunnels in the Southern California area in 1974. The three tunnel

diameters were:

a) 3.05 meters (10 ft.)

b) 4.73 meters (15.5 ft.)

c) 6.25 meters (20.5 ft.)

Comparing the cost of using NSTMs to the cost of

mechanical TBMs, A.A. Mathews determined:

Savings of 12 percent for the 4.73 meter (15.5 ft.) tunnel and 6

percent for the 6.25 meter (20.5 foot) tunnel were found to be possible

using the NSTM as compared to current methods. A penalty of 30 percent

was found for the 3.05 meter (10 foot) tunnel using the NSTM. The cost

advantage for the NSTM results from the combination of,

(a) a capital rather than labor intensive system,

(b) formation of both initial support and final lining in conjunction

with the excavation process.

This report has a number of interesting

features. It is noteworthy in the first place that the government

commissioned such a lengthy and detailed analysis of the cost of

operating a nuclear subterrenes. Just as intriguing is the fact that the

study found that the tunnels in the 15 ft. to 20 ft. diameter range can

be more economically excavated by NSTMs than by conventional TBMs.

Finally, the southern California location that was chosen for

tunneling cost analysis is thought provoking. This is precisely one of

the regions of the West where there is rumored to be a secret tunnel

system. Did the A.A. Mathews study represent part of the planning for an

actual covert tunneling project that was subsequently carried out, when

it was determined that it was more cost effective to use NSTMs than

mechanical TBMs?

Whether or not nuclear subterrene tunneling machines have been used,

or are being used, for subterranean tunneling is a question I cannot

presently answer.

April 2, 2008

At 09:09 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:

Wow!! that was a coincidence.....or was it???? Maybe it's something in

the air??? It is always weird when something like that happens.....You

find something, then something about that very subject gets sent to

you..........

Lynn

I am forwarding this for those

interested.. I posted something earlier today about Phil Schneider...

this email just came in and I thought that's curious that this

arrives just as I had made a referral to his pages.

I promise, this is as far off topic as I will go..

Hanneke

April 2, 2008

This is just an ordinary machine used every dag everywhere, but they got a machine there can do 7 miles a day, compare to this one there are doing 100 yards a day, at its best. Why in the hell are they using this out of date machine, when they have another one......there can do 7 miles a day.........?? I have no problem with that they are tunneling the earth with this machine, thousands are doing that every day. But how about a picture of the machine there are doing 7 miles a day....? and how about some prove about their tunneling on the Moon.......and Mars.......? no it is rubbish. No..no...they are working with aliens.....aha....that is a different story, also the base building on the earth....yeah.....so why are they using this stone age machine......they do not, they use a machine there can do 7 miles a day.....but it is a secret....aha so this stone age machine is just a show of.....precisely.KennDen 02/04/2008 kl. 03.09 skrev Hanneke:I am forwarding this for those interested.. I posted something earlier today about Phil Schneider... this email just came in and I thought that's curious that this arrives just as I had made a referral to his pages.I promise, this is as far off topic as I will go..:)HannekeAt 10:30 AM 2/04/2008, you wrote:The first section of this page was written by Phil Schneider: Photo of United States Air Force tunnel boring machine at Little Skull Mountain, Nevada, USA, December 1982. There are many rumors of secret military tunnels in the United States. If the rumors are true, machines such as the one shown here are used to make the tunnels. (Source: U.S. Department of Energy.)This is a $13 million tunnel boring machine (TBM) used for tunneling at the Nevada Test Site. (Remember that Area 51 is part of the test site.) Many other types of TBMs are used by many government agencies, including the 'nuclear powered TBM' [NTBM] that melts solid rock and leaves behind glass-like walls.Most tunneling activity is under military installations and all information is highly restricted. Former employees of said facilities have surfaced over the years to talk of massive underground installations in places like Area 51, the Northrop facility in Antelope Valley, California (rumored to have 42 levels), and the Lockheed installation near Edwards, California.The 'Black Budget' currently consumes $1.25 trillion per year. At least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned with deep underground military bases. Presently, there are 129 deep underground military bases in the United States. They have been building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early 1940's. Some of them were built even earlier than that. These bases are basically large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-leviton trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. Several books have been written about this activity.The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. They all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size. They have laser-drilling machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day. I was involved in building an addition to the deep underground military base at Dulce, which is probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep. I helped hollow out more than 13 deep underground military bases in the United States._____________________________More thought-provoking images of tunnel boring equipment:_____________________________From Dr Bill Deagle's December 2006 Granada Forum Lecture:I took care of John Fialla, who was best friends with Phil Schneider. How many people know about Phil Schneider? Well, they were using tunneling machines back in the mid-90s that could tunnel through a rock face at seven miles per day, that could cut through a rock face with high-energy impact lasers that could blow the nano-sized particles of rock so that there was no debris left, forming an obsidian-like core, and laying an inner core for unidirectional maglev trains that travel at Mach 2 to 2.8 underground between these very very powerful and organized cities.There's 132 under the United States, an average of 5.36 to 7.24 cubic miles in size at an average of 1.5 to 4.5 miles underground, built, by and large, most of them in areas away from geotectonic areas - but there's going to be lots of new geotectonic faults established when you have force 11, 12, 13, 14 earthquakes hit the Earth. Why are they rushing to do this? Because they know that catastrophe is coming. And where's this money coming from? It's not coming from our regular Black Op budget. It's coming from the illegal sale of drugs. In the United States there's at least, by conservative estimates, a quarter of a trillion to a half a trillion of illegal drugs just sold in the United States that goes directly into underground budgets, and 90-95% goes to the DUMBs [Deep Underground Military Bases]._____________________________The following was written by Richard Sauder, PhD, adapted from his book Underground Bases and Tunnels : The nuclear subterrene (rhymes with 'submarine') was designed at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, in New Mexico. A number of patents were filed by scientists at Los Alamos, a few federal technical documents were written - and then the whole thing just sort of faded away.Or did it? Nuclear subterrenes work by melting their way through the rock and soil, actually vitrifying it as they go, and leaving a neat, solidly glass-lined tunnel behind them. The heat is supplied by a compact nuclear reactor that circulates liquid lithium from the reactor core to the tunnel face, where it melts the rock. In the process of melting the rock the lithium loses some of its heat. It is then circulated back along the exterior of the tunneling machine to help cool the vitrified rock as the tunneling machine forces its way forward. The cooled lithium then circulates back to the reactor where the whole cycle starts over. In this way the nuclear subterrene slices through the rock like a nuclear powered, 2,000 degree Fahrenheit (1,100 Celsius) earthworm, boring its way deep underground. The United States Atomic Energy Commission and the United States Energy Research and Development Administration took out Patents in the 1970s for nuclear subterrenes. The first patent, in 1972 went to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission.The nuclear subterrene has an advantage over mechanical TBMs in that it produces no muck that must be disposed of by conveyors, trains, trucks, etc. This greatly simplifies tunneling. If nuclear subterrenes actually exist (and I do not know if they do) their presence, and the tunnels they make, could be very hard to detect, for the simple reason that there would not be the tell-tale muck piles or tailings dumps that are associated with the conventional tunneling activities. The 1972 patent makes this clear. It states: "... (D)ebris may be disposed of as melted rock both as a lining for the hole and as a dispersal in cracks produced in the surrounding rock. The rock-melting drill is of a shape and is propelled under sufficient pressure to produce and extend cracks in solid rock radially around the bore by means of hydrostatic pressure developed in the molten rock ahead of the advancing rock drill penetrator. All melt not used in glass-lining the bore is forced into the cracks where it freezes and remains ... "... Such a (vitreous) lining eliminates, in most cases, the expensive and cumbersome problem of debris elimination and at the same time achieves the advantage of a casing type of bore hole liner." ( U.S. Patent No. 3,693,731 dated Sept. 26, 1972) There you have it: a tunneling machine that creates no muck, and leaves a smooth, vitreous (glassy) tunnel lining behind.Another patent three years later was for: A tunneling machine for producing large tunnels in soft rock or wet, clayey, unconsolidated or bouldery earth by simultaneously detaching the tunnel core by thermal melting a boundary kerf into the tunnel face and forming a supporting excavation wall liner by deflecting the molten materials against the excavation walls to provide, when solidified, a continuous wall supporting liner, and detaching the tunnel face circumscribed by the kerf with powered mechanical earth detachment means and in which the heat required for melting the kerf and liner material is provided by a compact nuclear reactor. This 1975 patent further specifies that the machine is intended to excavate tunnels up to 12 meters in diameter or more. This means tunnels of 40 ft. or more in diameter. The kerf is the outside boundary of the tunnel wall that a boring machine gouges out as it bores through the ground or rock. So, in ordinary English, this machine will melt a circular boundary into the tunnel face. The melted rock will be forced to the outside of the tunnel by the tunnel machine, where it will form a hard, glassy tunnel lining (see the appropriate detail in the patent itself, as shown in Illustration 41). At the same time, mechanical tunnel boring equipment will grind up the rock and soil detached by the melted kerf and pass it to the rear of the machine for disposal by conveyor, slurry pipeline, etc. And yet a third patent was issued to the United States Energy Research and Development Administration just 21 days later, on 27 May 1975 for a machine remarkably similar to the machine patented on 6 May 1975. The abstract describes: A tunneling machine for producing large tunnels in rock by progressive detachment of the tunnel core by thermal melting a boundary kerf into the tunnel face and simultaneously forming an initial tunnel wall support by deflecting the molten materials against the tunnel walls to provide, when solidified, a continuous liner; and fragmenting the tunnel core circumscribed by the kerf by thermal stress fracturing and in which the heat required for such operations is supplied by a compact nuclear reactor.This machine would also be capable of making a glass-lined tunnel of 40 ft. in diameter or more. Perhaps some of my readers have heard the same rumors that I have heard swirling in the UFO literature and on the UFO grapevine: stories of deep, secret, glass-walled tunnels excavated by laser powered tunneling machines. I do not know if these stories are true. If they are, however, it may be that the glass-walled tunnels are made by the nuclear subterrenes described in these patents. The careful reader will note that all of these patents were obtained by agencies of the United States government. Further, all but one of the inventors are from Los Alamos, New Mexico. Of course, Los Alamos National Lab is itself the subject of considerable rumors about underground tunnels and chambers, Little Greys or "EBEs", and various other covert goings-on. A 1973 Los Alamos study entitled Systems and Cost Analysis for a Nuclear Subterrene Tunneling Machine: A Preliminary Study, concluded that nuclear subterrene tunneling machines (NSTMs) would be very cost effective, compared to conventional TBMs. It stated: Tunneling costs for NSTMs are very close to those for TBMs, if operating conditions for TBMs are favorable. However, for variable formations and unfavorable conditions such as soft, wet, bouldery ground or very hard rock, the NSTMs are far more effective. Estimates of cost and percentage use of NSTMs to satisfy U.S. transportation tunnel demands indicate a potential cost savings of 850 million dollars (1969 dollars) throughout 1990. An estimated NSTM prototype demonstration cost of $100 million over an eight-year period results in a favorable benefit-to-cost ratio of 8.5. ...Was the 1973 feasibility study only idle speculation, and is the astonishingly similar patent two years later only a wild coincidence? As many a frustrated inventor will tell you, the U.S. Patent Office only issues the paperwork when it's satisfied that the thing in question actually works! In 1975 the National Science Foundation commissioned another cost analysis of the nuclear subterrene. The A.A. Mathews Construction and Engineering Company of Rockville, Maryland produced a comprehensive report with two, separate, lengthy appendices, one 235 and the other 328 pages. A.A. Mathews calculated costs for constructing three different sized tunnels in the Southern California area in 1974. The three tunnel diameters were: a) 3.05 meters (10 ft.)b) 4.73 meters (15.5 ft.)c) 6.25 meters (20.5 ft.)Comparing the cost of using NSTMs to the cost of mechanical TBMs, A.A. Mathews determined: Savings of 12 percent for the 4.73 meter (15.5 ft.) tunnel and 6 percent for the 6.25 meter (20.5 foot) tunnel were found to be possible using the NSTM as compared to current methods. A penalty of 30 percent was found for the 3.05 meter (10 foot) tunnel using the NSTM. The cost advantage for the NSTM results from the combination of,(a) a capital rather than labor intensive system,(b) formation of both initial support and final lining in conjunction with the excavation process.This report has a number of interesting features. It is noteworthy in the first place that the government commissioned such a lengthy and detailed analysis of the cost of operating a nuclear subterrenes. Just as intriguing is the fact that the study found that the tunnels in the 15 ft. to 20 ft. diameter range can be more economically excavated by NSTMs than by conventional TBMs. Finally, the southern California location that was chosen for tunneling cost analysis is thought provoking. This is precisely one of the regions of the West where there is rumored to be a secret tunnel system. Did the A.A. Mathews study represent part of the planning for an actual covert tunneling project that was subsequently carried out, when it was determined that it was more cost effective to use NSTMs than mechanical TBMs? Whether or not nuclear subterrene tunneling machines have been used, or are being used, for subterranean tunneling is a question I cannot presently answer.