Guest guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Sorry for off topic, but i share the feelings as Hanneke. I could not bear to read about how the baby's tiny fingers were forcibly torn off mother's bosom, as the baby desperately cling to mothers neck... it is so disturbing.. i found myself sobbing (and i am a man)... i keep thinking of all these babies, kids, and the mothers... i continue to wonder... how could this happen? how? and why is the public so silent? Thanks for listening. Are we witnessing at a form of cancer in our society? Kris Hanneke <blosshan wrote: > > ...I can't help but feeling disgusted, and ever so sorry for all the children and parents involved. Whatever your beliefs what is done to them is inhumane. > ... and it seems to work out that the whole raid and operation was totally unjustified and unconstitutional. > The police force and Texas children's care is not giving up, they > are holding on to the children. > > Those families need help, not just emotional support but legal > assistance to have their families re united. > > http://www.captivefldschildren.org/index.php > > Some of the videos I couldn't watch, too upsetting. > Please let your heart speak! > > Hanneke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Iam absolutely terrified cant even begin to fathom what has happened to our legal system.The system is corrupt broken and those in position of power are taking advantage of the very fact.How can we live in a society that takes away the very liberty that was granted us by our forefathers who left there own country for freedom of religious persecusion.What society are we living in that takes away such a simple freedom.How can we sit idle and do nothing.. we all need to be very afraid but this doesnt mean do nothing it means now is the time to make a stand for our freedoms while the whole world is watching ..there are several things that are not okay with the compound but to come in and take away a whole sect of people based on hearsay is absolutely insane what happened to due process my god !!!!! you only have had to deal with the texas chilren protective services to know that they are absolutely not at all qualified to have made a decision of this magfnitude. they are inept at best ..they are a bunch of monkeys incapable of any self thought.They have a gang mentality if you will.. similar to that of the police ..thugs,bullys under the guise of a state program there for the benefit of the people not true ..their needs to be an independent agency investigating of the people ..any and all decisions made by those who are in power and capable of abuse.. like what has taken place today my dear freinds.. It is a very sad day and we need to mourn just another death in our pursuit of freedom and happiness...Any one out there willing to make a go of it with me and some how start up some sort of grassroots effort for those involved in this tragedy..strength in numbers!! Iam not entirely sure how to go about this endeavor.Iam more then sure that someone out there knows a little something about non-violent protest and grassroots organization efforts..Dont any one get me wrong if some abuse of sorts has taken place then yes those who have commited these crimes must pay the penalty ..with out doubt but that is where the crux of the issue takes place we can have that happen with investigation in proper venue.. innocent until proven guilty not the other way aroundd dammit!!!!!! sincerely cynthia Kris *ii7y <ilovechile+ wrote: Sorry for off topic, but i share the feelings as Hanneke.I could not bear to read about how the baby's tiny fingers wereforcibly torn off mother's bosom, as the baby desperately cling tomothers neck... it is so disturbing.. i found myself sobbing (and i ama man)... i keep thinking of all these babies, kids, and themothers... i continue to wonder... how could this happen? how? and whyis the public so silent?Thanks for listening.Are we witnessing at a form of cancer in our society?KrisHanneke <blosshan wrote:>> ...I can't help but feeling disgusted, and ever so sorry for all thechildren and parents involved. Whatever your beliefs what is done tothem is inhumane.> .. and it seems to work out that the whole raid and operation wastotally unjustified and unconstitutional.> The police force and Texas children's care is not giving up, they > are holding on to the children. > > Those families need help, not just emotional support but legal > assistance to have their families re united.> > http://www.captivefldschildren.org/index.php> > Some of the videos I couldn't watch, too upsetting.> Please let your heart speak!> > Hanneke Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Good Morning, I live in Texas, just three hours away from the ranch where those poor children and mothers were separated. Many of us feel repulsed by the actions of CPS, but don't know what to do about the legal situation. If some of you would like to become organized so that we can do something together, please let us know. ShirleyNeed a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Lots of us would be interested in doing something...what can we do? SusieSent from my iPod touch.On Apr 26, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Shirl4116 wrote: Good Morning,  I live in Texas, just three hours away from the ranch where those poor children and mothers were separated. Many of us feel repulsed by the actions of CPS, but don't know what to do about the legal situation. If some of you would like to become organized so that we can do something together, please let us know.  ShirleyNeed a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Hi,Shirley iam there with you on that any ideas how we begin perphaps a blog page to begin with maybe hitting texas cps with a barrage of letters and or e-mails i mean.We can most certainly obtain a permit to protest but where downtown cps building iam not sure??how about our legislation at the level where it started..I live in houston but am willing to travel.This is not something that we as americans can sit by and let happen. sincerely cynthiaShirl4116 wrote: Good Morning, I live in Texas, just three hours away from the ranch where those poor children and mothers were separated. Many of us feel repulsed by the actions of CPS, but don't know what to do about the legal situation. If some of you would like to become organized so that we can do something together, please let us know. Shirley Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Today it is that group. Which one will it be tomorrow? Pagans? Shakers? Vegetarians? It has already happened to smokers. My bet is that it will be de facto for those who do not vaccinate their kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Please understand that by my comments I am in no way advocating what the police did in this situation. However, the big difference between vegetarians, those who don't vaccinate, and this mormon cult, etc? There is suspicion of child molestation in the mormon cult. There are children who have left the cult and have testified to the fact that they themselves were molested. Boys testify to being sodomized and 14-year-old girls testify to being raped by their 60-year-old " husbands " . Are you going to nullify their awful experience by protecting those that did this to them?? I am a mom a I've cried over the fact that babies were ripped from their moms arms. But, I've also cried over the fact that there are young girls who are brain washed into thinking they're going to heaven if they allow themselves to be raped and have and old man's baby. What's the solution? I honestly don't know. But, I think you need to consider all the facts before jumping on a band wagon. , " peas_to_u " <THEDIA wrote: > > Today it is that group. Which one will it be tomorrow? Pagans? > Shakers? Vegetarians? It has already happened to smokers. My bet is > that it will be de facto for those who do not vaccinate their kids. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Why didn't they arrest the particular males involved in the accusations? Also polygamy is against the law in most states I believe. Just my 2 cents. I don't know everything about this case and I don't believe in attacking someone's religion either. - " Tina " <mommyon731 Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:27 PM Re: Off Topic: The FLDS families who have been torn apart Please understand that by my comments I am in no way advocating what the police did in this situation. However, the big difference between vegetarians, those who don't vaccinate, and this mormon cult, etc? There is suspicion of child molestation in the mormon cult. There are children who have left the cult and have testified to the fact that they themselves were molested. Boys testify to being sodomized and 14-year-old girls testify to being raped by their 60-year-old " husbands " . Are you going to nullify their awful experience by protecting those that did this to them?? I am a mom a I've cried over the fact that babies were ripped from their moms arms. But, I've also cried over the fact that there are young girls who are brain washed into thinking they're going to heaven if they allow themselves to be raped and have and old man's baby. What's the solution? I honestly don't know. But, I think you need to consider all the facts before jumping on a band wagon. , " peas_to_u " <THEDIA wrote: > > Today it is that group. Which one will it be tomorrow? Pagans? > Shakers? Vegetarians? It has already happened to smokers. My bet is > that it will be de facto for those who do not vaccinate their kids. > --- «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! § Subscribe:......... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» DISCLOSURE: Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP: By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred. Anything going to this list may eventually be posted on another list. If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach your name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record. You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions to the source of the material are made. Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material that you think is worthy. YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Unless the moderator is OK with running off-topics, maybe we can take Cynthia's suggestion and post on this subject in another blog/forum. We are starting to talk about this at the Newcastle Forum: http://newcastle.forumj.netWhen you go there, enter " The Grand Ballroom " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Okay! You got me thinking with that comment. Pagans you say? You REALLY got my attention now. Kenneth T WHEN YOU LET PEOPLE DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, YOU GET WOODSTOCK. WHEN YOU LET GOVERNMENTS DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, YOU GET WACO. - " peas_to_u " <THEDIA Saturday, April 26, 2008 17:47 Re: Off Topic: The FLDS families who have been torn apart Today it is that group. Which one will it be tomorrow? Pagans? Shakers? Vegetarians? It has already happened to smokers. My bet is that it will be de facto for those who do not vaccinate their kids. --- «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! § Subscribe:......... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» DISCLOSURE: Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP: By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred. Anything going to this list may eventually be posted on another list. If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach your name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record. You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions to the source of the material are made. Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material that you think is worthy. YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Interesting perspective. Was Woodstock cause or effect in relation to things like the Vietnam War, Draft, assasanations, ect... Which came first the chicken or the egg? Rock and Roll or suicides? How many suicides have beer, rock music and cigarrettes prevented? Just asking. Here's a great video about the philosophy of Liberty. - " Kenneth " <plisca Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:39 AM Re: Re: Off Topic: The FLDS families who have been torn apart > Okay! You got me thinking with that comment. Pagans you say? You REALLY > got my attention now. > Kenneth T > > WHEN YOU LET PEOPLE DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, YOU GET WOODSTOCK. > > WHEN YOU LET GOVERNMENTS DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, YOU GET WACO. > > > - > " peas_to_u " <THEDIA > > Saturday, April 26, 2008 17:47 > Re: Off Topic: The FLDS families who have > been torn apart > > > Today it is that group. Which one will it be tomorrow? Pagans? > Shakers? Vegetarians? It has already happened to smokers. My bet is > that it will be de facto for those who do not vaccinate their kids. > > > --- > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» > > § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! § > > > Subscribe:......... - > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» > > DISCLOSURE: > > Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news > related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always > consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of > treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening > illnesses. > > SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP: > > By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its > members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any > liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred. > > Anything going to this list may eventually be posted on another list. > If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach your > name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record. > You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions > to the source of the material are made. > Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material that > you think is worthy. > > YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and > to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on > any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening > illnesses. > > IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Lordy, Lordy--Are we all anarchists, too? Before you think these FLDS folks are all total victims, please do a little research. These children ARE seriously at risk. They were NOT getting educated, they were often physically abused, the young women were often DRUGGED w/o their actual consent ( " vitamins " ,) involuntarily " married " raped and impregnated as teens AND they were heavily brain-washed to submit to ALL of this as GOD'S WILL. Read some of the info from women that have actually left that cult, like ESCAPE, by Carolyn Jessop, or listen to the interviews of the women who have GOTTEN OUT SUCCESSFULLY--not those that are still " under the influence. " After all a lot of people drank Jim Jones' punch willingly, and we STILL wish that we could have intervened more successfully there with all those women and children, or those who were forced! > > WHEN YOU LET PEOPLE DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, YOU GET WOODSTOCK. > > WHEN YOU LET GOVERNMENTS DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, YOU GET WACO. OH, BALONEY! What about the preservation of Yellowstone and Yosemite by the Government, and the nightmares of LOVE Canal and other toxic waste dumps by private industry and " the people " ? Let's let this thread die a natural death--IT IS TOTALLY OFF TOPIC!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 That's the problem, Bill. Instead of going after those who actually broke the law, they are punishing everyone now (before it happens) because they might break the law in the future, may be 10-13 years down the road. This raid is a case of preemptive punishment, in my mind, and it has a broad implications that should make any freedom loving person shiver in disgust. Welcome to the Orwellian society... Love, Kris <coffeemon2002 wrote: Why didn't they arrest the particular males involved in the accusations? .... I don't know everything about this case and I don't believe in attacking someone's religion either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Where do you get the idea that they haven't broken the law yet? There were four from the cult in a tv interview the other day admitting to the fact that they break laws! They themselves admitted it!! , " Kris + " <ilovechile+ wrote: > > That's the problem, Bill. Instead of going after those who actually > *broke*the law, they are > *punishing everyone* now (before it happens) because they *might *break the > law in the future, may be 10-13 years down the road. > > This raid is a case of *preemptive punishment*, in my mind, and it has a > broad implications that should make any freedom loving person shiver in > disgust. Welcome to the Orwellian society... Love, Kris > > > <coffeemon2002 wrote: > > > Why didn't they arrest the particular males involved in the accusations? > > .... I don't know everything about this case and I don't believe in > > attacking someone's religion either. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 I believe many people are ignorant about the truth of what goes on behind the closed doors of the mormon church. I just think you need to open your minds to the possibility that there's another side to this story. http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695270674,00.html http://statesamind.blogspot.com/2007/05/violent-secret-mormon-cult-like-rituals.\ html , " Tina " <mommyon731 wrote: > > Where do you get the idea that they haven't broken the law yet? There > were four from the cult in a tv interview the other day admitting to > the fact that they break laws! They themselves admitted it!! > > , " Kris + " <ilovechile+@> > wrote: > > > > That's the problem, Bill. Instead of going after those who actually > > *broke*the law, they are > > *punishing everyone* now (before it happens) because they *might > *break the > > law in the future, may be 10-13 years down the road. > > > > This raid is a case of *preemptive punishment*, in my mind, and it has a > > broad implications that should make any freedom loving person shiver in > > disgust. Welcome to the Orwellian society... Love, Kris > > > > > > <coffeemon2002@> wrote: > > > > > Why didn't they arrest the particular males involved in the > accusations? > > > .... I don't know everything about this case and I don't believe in > > > attacking someone's religion either. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I'd say many are ignorant of the state's true intentions against the people, just as many (except for us?) are ignorant of the true intentions of the FDA and just about all other (3-Letter) alphabet soup... Our freedom is going away (already gone?), why can't you see that???KrisTina <mommyon731 wrote: I believe many people are ignorant about the truth of what goes on behind the closed doors of the mormon church. I just think you need to open your minds to the possibility that there's another side to this story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I'm not debating the freedom to worship the way you want to. I'm debating their " freedom " to molest children. Why are you trying to protect child molesters? , " Kris + " <ilovechile+ wrote: > > I'd say many are ignorant of the state's true intentions against the people, > just as many (except for us?) are ignorant of the true intentions of the FDA > and just about all other (3-Letter) alphabet soup... > > Our freedom is going away (already gone?), why can't you see that??? > > Kris > > Tina <mommyon731 wrote: > > > I believe many people are ignorant about the truth of what goes on > > behind the closed doors of the mormon church. I just think you need > > to open your minds to the possibility that there's another side to > > this story. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I have the feeling that many people are ignorant about the fact that liberties are being attacked daily by government agencies. When reading up on sexual abuse perpetrated by clerics, there is not one denomination blameless. However, have raids been held? Please google sex abuse and religion, or churches, or anything really. I saw set of statistics(of insurance company) with claims of abuse covering a steady flow every year. Please look into it and see the broader picture. Today it is this group (which I have to emphasize has not proven to be justified as no pregnant teens have been reported, but already 2 young children are unaccounted for, and 3 have ended up in a hospital already). Emotional abuse is perpetrated at a grand scale by those who say they took the children for their own protection. Today this church, tomorrow another group will be the focus. If based on sexual abuse alone, they will feel justified to cart whole cities off to a FEMA camp possible on ground of one alleged case of abuse. Unthinkable?? think again.. I do not condone sexual, child abuse or any physical abuse and should be investigated and brought to justice. Don't ask me the condone the taking away of 467 children on the allegations of a hoax caller! Hanneke At 07:18 AM 28/04/2008, you wrote: >I believe many people are ignorant about the truth of what goes on >behind the closed doors of the mormon church. I just think you need >to open your minds to the possibility that there's another side to >this story. > >http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695270674,00.html > >http://statesamind.blogspot.com/2007/05/violent-secret-mormon-cult-like-rituals\ ..html > > > , " Tina " <mommyon731 wrote: > > > > Where do you get the idea that they haven't broken the law yet? There > > were four from the cult in a tv interview the other day admitting to > > the fact that they break laws! They themselves admitted it!! > > > > , " Kris + " <ilovechile+@> > > wrote: > > > > > > That's the problem, Bill. Instead of going after those who actually > > > *broke*the law, they are > > > *punishing everyone* now (before it happens) because they *might > > *break the > > > law in the future, may be 10-13 years down the road. > > > > > > This raid is a case of *preemptive punishment*, in my mind, and it >has a > > > broad implications that should make any freedom loving person >shiver in > > > disgust. Welcome to the Orwellian society... Love, Kris > > > > > > > > > <coffeemon2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > Why didn't they arrest the particular males involved in the > > accusations? > > > > .... I don't know everything about this case and I don't believe in > > > > attacking someone's religion either. > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > >«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» > >§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! § > > >Subscribe:......... - > >«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» > >DISCLOSURE: > >Any information here in is for educational >purpose only; it may be news related, purely >speculation or SOMEONE’S OPINION. Always consult >with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding >on any course of treatment, especially for >serious or life-threatening illnesses. > >SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP: > >By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to >hold this group its members, list owners, >moderators and affiliates harmless of any >liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred. > >Anything going to this list may eventually be posted on another list. >If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach your >name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record. >You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions >to the source of the material are made. >Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material that >you think is worthy. > >YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and >liability for your own actions and to contact a >licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any >course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. > >IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Yes, it is off topic, and if any one wants to continue, feel free to write to me directly, or visit my forum to discuss further... http://newcastle.forumj.net/the-grand-ballroom-f3/ Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I believe many people are ignorant about the truth of what goes on behind the closed doors of the mormon church. I just think you need to open your minds to the possibility that there's another side to this story. ~ Tina ~ ############ Well said Tina, I guess if this keeps up I will just set my address to no mail and access by coming to the website each day. This whole matter is so upsetting to me that I find myself sick over it. Indeed there are two sides to this story, I will not even got there however. This subject needs to go away. Blessings to all. ~ Micki ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 http://www.chick.com/catalog/comics/0118.asp?wpc=0118.asp & wpp=a See above for problems with Jesuit created Morman Church. I believe many people are ignorant about the truth of what goes on behind the closed doors of the mormon church. I just think you need to open your minds to the possibility that there's another side to this story. ~ Tina ~ ############ Well said Tina, I guess if this keeps up I will just set my address to no mail and access by coming to the website each day. This whole matter is so upsetting to me that I find myself sick over it. Indeed there are two sides to this story, I will not even got there however. This subject needs to go away. Blessings to all. ~ Micki ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I know there are things that have been off topic on this group list but I was very surprised that one would send something inappropriate and negative about a religion on a health and healing group list. Do you have nothing more interesting to educate people on than trying to spread negativity against a religion. There are many other groups you can do that on instead of the Health and Healing group. , Soul_bro2 wrote: > > http://www.chick.com/catalog/comics/0118.asp?wpc=0118.asp & wpp=a > > See above for problems with Jesuit created Morman Church. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 You know I am all for freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and I feel that many of our freedoms have been taken from us. However today when I read that 31 out 55 teenage girls in this group are either pregnant or have already had a baby, that just made me really mad. There is nothing about freedom to rape, taking advantage of a child, or abuse of a child that I condone. I do not believe that is part of the Mormon religion, I think that is people taking cover under religion to do what they want when they want, no matter who they hurt. I feel that every man that has fathered any of these baby's should go to prison for rape. They are doing blood tests on all involved, so it should not be that hard to prove who did what. My gosh they already have several wifes, leave these little girls alone. Well, that is my opinion of the situation. Annie , " Kris + " <ilovechile+ wrote: > > That's the problem, Bill. Instead of going after those who actually > *broke*the law, they are > *punishing everyone* now (before it happens) because they *might *break the > law in the future, may be 10-13 years down the road. > > This raid is a case of *preemptive punishment*, in my mind, and it has a > broad implications that should make any freedom loving person shiver in > disgust. Welcome to the Orwellian society... Love, Kris > > > <coffeemon2002 wrote: > > > Why didn't they arrest the particular males involved in the accusations? > > .... I don't know everything about this case and I don't believe in > > attacking someone's religion either. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Sorry, that you found the truth negative. The abuse of the said organization can cause stress which can weaken the immune system leading to sickness. Sorry, you did not understand the connection. See www.herballegacy.com for info on the connection between stress and immunity. Political Correctness is Fascism. Free speech is a Right. -------------- Original message ---------------------- " nilufer_smith " <nilufer_smith > I know there are things that have been off topic on this group list > but I was very surprised that one would send something inappropriate > and negative about a religion on a health and healing group list. Do > you have nothing more interesting to educate people on than trying to > spread negativity against a religion. There are many other groups you > can do that on instead of the Health and Healing group. > > > , Soul_bro2 wrote: > > > > http://www.chick.com/catalog/comics/0118.asp?wpc=0118.asp & wpp=a > > > > See above for problems with Jesuit created Morman Church. > > > > > I know there are things that have been off topic on this group list but I was very surprised that one would send something inappropriate and negative about a religion on a health and healing group list. Do you have nothing more interesting to educate people on than trying to spread negativity against a religion. There are many other groups you can do that on instead of the Health and Healing group. , Soul_bro2 wrote: > > http://www.chick.com/catalog/comics/0118.asp?wpc=0118.asp & wpp=a > > See above for problems with Jesuit created Morman Church. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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