Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I saw a documentary last night that I would highly recommend. The movie is called Gas Hole. The filmmakers were there to talk to the audience after the film.The reviews and synopsis on the film's Web site say that the film is about gas prices and alternative fuels but it's much more.There were several real stories about cars that could achieve 100 miles per gallon—as early as the 1940s.General Motors has announced plans to close their plant in Janesville, Wisconsin because the plant manufactures SUVs that are not fuel-efficient. The documentary proves that this is a lie. Everyone who works for GM should see the film.The film is touring the country and dates are available on the film's Web site:http://www.gasholemovie.com/Tour.htmlGas Hole will be shown in Milwaukee on Thursday, June 5th night at 7:00 p.m. in case Janesville's union leaders would like to see it (the film was only in Madison for one night). When the Madison audience talked to the filmmakers, several people in the audience said they felt Janesville GM union people need to see the film—and possibly arrange for a screening.Jeremy Wagener is one of the filmmakers and he gave me his card. His e-mail address is jeremy. His phone is 323-333-2774 and Web address is http://www.filmracket.com.There were several fuel efficiency stories in the movie that were startling. For example, the film contains an interview with a California resident named K.D. Kunde who describes a Buick Roadmaster that he saw in the 1940s that could get 100 miles per gallon. Kunde says the inventor brought the car to the Crows Landing Naval Airfield in the 40s and the inventor said he became a millionaire by selling the patent to Shell Oil Co., but one of the conditions was he could not make any more.Another story included a book written by Shell Oil scientists and published by Shell—that describes fuel efficiency tests that had even better results (over 100 pmg). Mary JoMadison, WI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Very True. My Aunt married my Uncle while working for Ford. When first heard of high mileage devices, I asked him about it. He verified the many stories. Later, I asked a mechanic friend about it and he said men in black bought a device that left the factory by mistake from a buddy on the racetrack. I have received countless emails about cars with experimental devices leaving the factory by mistake. The end result was a buyback with a free car for life! My hope is the next time that happens, one takes the car apart to reverse engineer technology only to be later modified to avoid patent issues for public use. See my website. http://stores.ebay.com/alproduct4u I saw a documentary last night that I would highly recommend. The movie is called Gas Hole. The filmmakers were there to talk to the audience after the film.The reviews and synopsis on the film's Web site say that the film is about gas prices and alternative fuels but it's much more.There were several real stories about cars that could achieve 100 miles per gallon—as early as the 1940s.General Motors has announced plans to close their plant in Janesville, Wisconsin because the plant manufactures SUVs that are not fuel-efficient. The documentary proves that this is a lie. Everyone who works for GM should see the film.The film is touring the country and dates are available on the film's Web site:http://www.gasholemovie.com/Tour.htmlGas Hole will be shown in Milwaukee on Thursday, June 5th night at 7:00 p.m. in case Janesville's union leaders would like to see it (the film was only in Madison for one night). When the Madison audience talked to the filmmakers, several people in the audience said they felt Janesville GM union people need to see the film—and possibly arrange for a screening.Jeremy Wagener is one of the filmmakers and he gave me his card. His e-mail address is jeremy (AT) filmracket (DOT) com. His phone is 323-333-2774 and Web address is http://www.filmracket.com.There were several fuel efficiency stories in the movie that were startling. For example, the film contains an interview with a California resident named K.D. Kunde who describes a Buick Roadmaster that he saw in the 1940s that could get 100 miles per gallon. Kunde says the inventor brought the car to the Crows Landing Naval Airfield in the 40s and the inventor said he became a millionaire by selling the patent to Shell Oil Co., but one of the conditions was he could not make any more.Another story included a book written by Shell Oil scientists and published by Shell—that describes fuel efficiency tests that had even better results (over 100 pmg). Mary JoMadison, WI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Would really be more practical to get away from fossil fuels altogether and concentrate on water or solar for cars surely! Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147 & hl=en See above on Oil Lies. Would really be more practical to get away from fossil fuels altogether and concentrate on water or solar for cars surely! Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Yeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or both.....I am sure we all would listen.Den 04/06/2008 kl. 17.05 skrev Jane MacRoss:Would really be more practical to get away from fossil fuels altogether and concentrate on water or solar for cars surely!Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 The best fuel is compressed air. Go to www.rexresearch.com and buy cd for plans on it and many others. -------------- Original message ---------------------- Kenn Johnsen <kennj > Yeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or > both.....I am sure we all would listen. > > Yeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or both.....I am sure we all would listen.Den 04/06/2008 kl. 17.05 skrev Jane MacRoss:Would really be more practical to get away from fossil fuels altogether and concentrate on water or solar for cars surely!Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Gas price are a control issue. Raise the price, you control who drives. water can be controlled but sunlight? Nope. Still, big money plays a large part. Anybody ever try Real Raw Honey? I bought some the other day. Good stuff, imo. Kenneth T - Kenn Johnsen Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:04 Re: Documentary: Gas Hole Yeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or both.....I am sure we all would listen. Den 04/06/2008 kl. 17.05 skrev Jane MacRoss: Would really be more practical to get away from fossil fuels altogether and concentrate on water or solar for cars surely!Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Plans are easy to come by for anything and everything. What I need is money and materials to make all these things, imaginable, a reality. Any health alternatives?: My Dr. gave me a prescription for Nasonex but I refuse to take it. Nothing goes up my nose but maybe my finger... Ewwww, did I just say that? :OD Kenneth T - <Soul_bro2 Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:37 Re: Documentary: Gas Hole The best fuel is compressed air. Go to www.rexresearch.com and buy cd for plans on it and many others. -------------- Original message ---------------------- Kenn Johnsen <kennj > Yeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or > both.....I am sure we all would listen. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Or better yet, get away from cars which still require that expensive roadways be built to accommodate them and even if solar is used to run cars, isn't there an issue with those batteries? Where to you toss those toxic things when they expire? Josephine , " Jane MacRoss " <highfield1 wrote: > > Would really be more practical to get away from fossil fuels altogether and > concentrate on water or solar for cars surely! > > Jane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 You can still get plain old saline solution in a spray bottle for you nose. It works great. A woman from florida told me about that one. They have pollen year round there. Of course change your AC filter too. - " Kenneth " <plisca Wednesday, June 04, 2008 1:13 PM Re: Documentary: Gas Hole Plans are easy to come by for anything and everything. What I need is money and materials to make all these things, imaginable, a reality. Any health alternatives?: My Dr. gave me a prescription for Nasonex but I refuse to take it. Nothing goes up my nose but maybe my finger... Ewwww, did I just say that? :OD Kenneth T - <Soul_bro2 Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:37 Re: Documentary: Gas Hole The best fuel is compressed air. Go to www.rexresearch.com and buy cd for plans on it and many others. -------------- Original message ---------------------- Kenn Johnsen <kennj > Yeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or > both.....I am sure we all would listen. > > --- «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! § Subscribe:......... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» DISCLOSURE: Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP: By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred. Anything going to this list may eventually be posted on another list. If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach your name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record. You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions to the source of the material are made. Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material that you think is worthy. YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Hi, new here!! Fenugreek is good for sinuses. You can buy it as a tea or buy the powder and mix it with your hot tea. I'm big on teas. For my son, who has bad seasonal allergies and not a big hot tea drinker, I just bought him an allergy/asthma propietary blend from www.herbalextractsplus.com . The page for the protocol is http://www.herbalextractsplus.com/allergies-asthma.cfm . You learn a lot just by reading the ingredients and what they're good for. Just got it in today. Hopefully it'll work for him. Sandra Kenneth Jun 4, 2008 1:13 PM Re: Documentary: Gas Hole Plans are easy to come by for anything and everything. What I need is money and materials to make all these things, imaginable, a reality.Any health alternatives?: My Dr. gave me a prescription for Nasonex but I refuse to take it.Nothing goes up my nose but maybe my finger... Ewwww, did I just say that? :ODKenneth T Recent Activity 70 New Members 5 New Photos 4 New LinksVisit Your Group Y! Messenger Files to share? Send up to 1GB of files in an IM. Latest product news Join Mod. Central stay connected. All-Bran 10 Day Challenge Join the club and feel the benefits. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 MSM. 1 gram morning and evening for pollen allergies. Hugh Kenneth <plisca Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 10:13:27 AMRe: Documentary: Gas Hole Plans are easy to come by for anything and everything. What I need is money and materials to make all these things, imaginable, a reality.Any health alternatives? : My Dr. gave me a prescription for Nasonex but I refuse to take it.Nothing goes up my nose but maybe my finger... Ewwww, did I just say that? :ODKenneth T- <Soul_bro2 (AT) comcast (DOT) net><>Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:37Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Documentary: Gas HoleThe best fuel is compressed air. Go to www.rexresearch. com and buy cd for plans on it and many others.------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -Kenn Johnsen <kennj (AT) webspeed (DOT) dk>> Yeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or> both.....I am sure we all would listen.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I wonder, why is that those people always only sell plans.......but never build anything themself.Den 04/06/2008 kl. 18.37 skrev Soul_bro2:The best fuel is compressed air. Go to www.rexresearch.com and buy cd for plans on it and many others. -------------- Original message ----------------------Kenn Johnsen <kennj (AT) webspeed (DOT) dk>> Yeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or > both.....I am sure we all would listen.> > Fra: Kenn Johnsen <kennjDato: 4. jun 2008 18.04.38 GMT+02:00Til: Emne: Vedr.: Documentary: Gas HoleYeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or both.....I am sure we all would listen.Den 04/06/2008 kl. 17.05 skrev Jane MacRoss:Would really be more practical to get away from fossil fuels altogether and concentrate on water or solar for cars surely!Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 A man in UK used to write to me about his water car invention but I lost all his info and his contact address and details after my house burnt down - I know his life was in danger - it was that dangerous a mission - however much people might scoff - even my boss in the allergy unit here in Melbourne had death threats working on allergies to toluene. Jane - Kenn Johnsen Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:04 AM Re: Documentary: Gas Hole Yeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or both.....I am sure we all would listen. Den 04/06/2008 kl. 17.05 skrev Jane MacRoss: Would really be more practical to get away from fossil fuels altogether and concentrate on water or solar for cars surely!Jane Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.5/1479 - Release 6/2/2008 7:02 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Cost effective for plans. These work as they are straight from patents filed. Insurance for a start up company is a major obstacle. The corporations have a tendency to buy out the little guy. -------------- Original message ---------------------- Kenn Johnsen <kennj > I wonder, why is that those people always only sell plans.......but > never build anything themself. I wonder, why is that those people always only sell plans.......but never build anything themself.Den 04/06/2008 kl. 18.37 skrev Soul_bro2 (AT) comcast (DOT) net:The best fuel is compressed air. Go to www.rexresearch.com and buy cd for plans on it and many others. -------------- Original message ----------------------Kenn Johnsen <kennj (AT) webspeed (DOT) dk>> Yeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or > both.....I am sure we all would listen.> > Fra: Kenn Johnsen <kennj (AT) webspeed (DOT) dk>Dato: 4. jun 2008 18.04.38 GMT+02:00Til: Emne: Vedr.: Documentary: Gas HoleYeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or both.....I am sure we all would listen.Den 04/06/2008 kl. 17.05 skrev Jane MacRoss:Would really be more practical to get away from fossil fuels altogether and concentrate on water or solar for cars surely!Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Also, because the big corporations don't like competition, they might buy up the plans and these may never re-surface again. Those who have missed the documentary: Who killed the electric car ( youtube, and possible other places too): this documentary is worth watching.. it shows how the oil companies and other influential politicians and companies took care of this. Hanneke At 08:09 AM 5/06/2008, you wrote: >Cost effective for plans. These work as they are straight from >patents filed. Insurance for a start up company is a major obstacle. >The corporations have a tendency to buy out the little guy. > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >Kenn Johnsen <kennj > > I wonder, why is that those people always only sell plans.......but > > never build anything themself. > > >--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 water power Hugh Jane MacRoss <highfield1 Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:28:56 PMRe: Documentary: Gas Hole A man in UK used to write to me about his water car invention but I lost all his info and his contact address and details after my house burnt down - I know his life was in danger - it was that dangerous a mission - however much people might scoff - even my boss in the allergy unit here in Melbourne had death threats working on allergies to toluene. Jane - Kenn Johnsen Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:04 AM Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Documentary: Gas Hole Yeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or both.....I am sure we all would listen. Den 04/06/2008 kl. 17.05 skrev Jane MacRoss: Would really be more practical to get away from fossil fuels altogether and concentrate on water or solar for cars surely!Jane Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.5/1479 - Release 6/2/2008 7:02 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 There is probably one item in these plans that is impossible to acquire... like, like (I would list some items but they are key-words and " the man " would surely take notice). Just use your imagination. Kenneth T - <Soul_bro2 Wednesday, June 04, 2008 18:39 Re: Documentary: Gas Hole Cost effective for plans. These work as they are straight from patents filed. Insurance for a start up company is a major obstacle. The corporations have a tendency to buy out the little guy. -------------- Original message ---------------------- Kenn Johnsen <kennj > I wonder, why is that those people always only sell plans.......but > never build anything themself. --- «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! § Subscribe:......... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» DISCLOSURE: Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP: By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred. Anything going to this list may eventually be posted on another list. If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach your name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record. You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions to the source of the material are made. Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material that you think is worthy. YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 I can not say that the watercar does not exist......that no body have done it. But after a couple of years in the watercar group, and buying a lot of plans......I can say there is a lot of scammers around. In fact that is the only one I have seen.....not one there have split the water and have running an combustion engines on pure water.Den 05/06/2008 kl. 00.28 skrev Jane MacRoss:A man in UK used to write to me about his water car invention but I lost all his info and his contact address and details after my house burnt down - I know his life was in danger - it was that dangerous a mission - however much people might scoff - even my boss in the allergy unit here in Melbourne had death threats working on allergies to toluene. Jane-Kenn Johnsen Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:04 AMRe: Documentary: Gas HoleYeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or both.....I am sure we all would listen.Den 04/06/2008 kl. 17.05 skrev Jane MacRoss:Would really be more practical to get away from fossil fuels altogether and concentrate on water or solar for cars surely!JaneChecked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.5/1479 - Release 6/2/2008 7:02 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 This is old stuff, still it takes more energy to split the water than you get out of it.Den 05/06/2008 kl. 01.14 skrev Hugh Ramsdell:water power http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnUHugh----- Original Message ----Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au> Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 3:28:56 PMRe: Documentary: Gas HoleA man in UK used to write to me about his water car invention but I lost all his info and his contact address and details after my house burnt down - I know his life was in danger - it was that dangerous a mission - however much people might scoff - even my boss in the allergy unit here in Melbourne had death threats working on allergies to toluene. Jane-Kenn JohnsenThursday, June 05, 2008 2:04 AMRe: [Health_and_ Healing] Documentary: Gas HoleYeah.....do you know how to run a car on water, or solar.....or both.....I am sure we all would listen.Den 04/06/2008 kl. 17.05 skrev Jane MacRoss:Would really be more practical to get away from fossil fuels altogether and concentrate on water or solar for cars surely!JaneChecked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.5/1479 - Release 6/2/2008 7:02 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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