Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 I don't know anything about this. Female, 26, it is not a stain as far as I have been able to tell. Tongue coating is thin and a little greasy otherwise. When it is not orange it will vary between white to light yellow. Perhaps related to stagnation as it can show up when she is fatigued or first thing in the morning. Thanks, Hugo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Hi Hugo, Has she taken alot of antibiotics? Though I have never seen it in the tongue, when I patient has frequently taken antibiotics, particularly as a child, during the process of detoxification (moving accumulation and stagnation, particularly in the liver, their urine frequently burns and becomes orange color, as well as their stool. I don't think that it is unreasonable to surmise that this accumulation could back up and manifest in the tongue as well. Let me know, All the best, Yehuda Frischman, L.Ac,CST,SER www.traditionaljewishmedicine.com Hugo <subincor wrote: I don't know anything about this. Female, 26, it is not a stain as far as I have been able to tell. Tongue coating is thin and a little greasy otherwise. When it is not orange it will vary between white to light yellow. Perhaps related to stagnation as it can show up when she is fatigued or first thing in the morning. Thanks, Hugo http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Hi Yehuda, thanks for the ideas.. > Has she taken alot of antibiotics? No she hasn't, although she has an emotionally derived Sp Qi damage (Liv insulting Sp + lots of worry/overthinking). > child, during the process of detoxification (moving > accumulation and stagnation, particularly in the > liver, This is possible. In this past year she has given up on a lot of old (angry and resentful) beliefs and has struggled greatly with the ramifications thereof. Her tongue has shown, over the period of one year, greatly reduced phlegm in the heart region, an overall decrease in thickness and greasiness of the tongue coating, and a 90% improvement in what used to be her extremely foul breath. I am mainly worried about this strange colour in light of her very rapid (and rocky) improvement (change). Don't want to change things too fast, you know. > that it is unreasonable to surmise that this > accumulation could back up and manifest in the > tongue as well. I hope it is something like this, thank you, and if you run into any info, if you could send it my way, I would greatly appreciate that! Hugo Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Though not directly related ot this, anecdotally I think that it's worth sharing: One other MAJOR detox symptom I have seen repeatedly in detoxing patients (I combine acupuncture, chinese herbs CranioSacral therapy and SomatoEmotional release (Dr. John Upledger's work) besides the Orange urine and stool is that the patient suddenly gets VERY COLD. I treated a little 9 year old boy this morning who has had a rather serious case of ADHD. His parents refuse to medicate him, and he is now in his 3rd school in 3 years. In addition, he suffers from a severe facial, neck and shoulder tic, and has extraordinary fears of the dark and of course, needles. I have been treating him for nearly 2 years. During today's session, he had a major release of a trauma that has been with him since conception: It so happens that his 12 year old sister is handicapped with muscular dystrophy. I don't want to go through the whole process, but what came out was that from the time he was conceived, he mother was overwhelmed with the fear that her new fetus would also be handicapped. That fear became implanted in his abdominal cavity, particularly in the upper right side. As it started to be released, he asked for a blanket, and started shivering (even though here in LA it was in the high 70's). When the release was completed, he felt fine, was calm, focused and according to his father, hasn't had tics since, though they were constant heretofore. Oh, BTW, I asked at the end of the session if he would be interested in having me place ear seeds, and unhesitantingly, he said yes. The point I want to make is that when deep emotional or toxic stuff is released, don't be surprised by VERY unusual accompanying symptoms. Sincerely Yehuda Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote: Hi Yehuda, thanks for the ideas.. > Has she taken alot of antibiotics? No she hasn't, although she has an emotionally derived Sp Qi damage (Liv insulting Sp + lots of worry/overthinking). > child, during the process of detoxification (moving > accumulation and stagnation, particularly in the > liver, This is possible. In this past year she has given up on a lot of old (angry and resentful) beliefs and has struggled greatly with the ramifications thereof. Her tongue has shown, over the period of one year, greatly reduced phlegm in the heart region, an overall decrease in thickness and greasiness of the tongue coating, and a 90% improvement in what used to be her extremely foul breath. I am mainly worried about this strange colour in light of her very rapid (and rocky) improvement (change). Don't want to change things too fast, you know. > that it is unreasonable to surmise that this > accumulation could back up and manifest in the > tongue as well. I hope it is something like this, thank you, and if you run into any info, if you could send it my way, I would greatly appreciate that! Hugo Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Great for you, Yehuda, hanging in with this child. It sounds like the work you have done has really helped him. Have you heard of Jeremy Ross's book on child acpuncture? He has a point in the cervical vertebrae area that really helps calm an ADHD child. Can't tell you the exact location. The ear seeds will also be very nice. When my son was 9 I took him to an acupuncturist for similar problems. He was having nightmares and was hyperactive (for lack of a more precise term). The acupuncturist used a probe on the points (he hated needles and his trauma over them quickly eliminated them), later used a laser, also used ear pellets (sometimes). I saw amazing improvement with the nighmares in a few months. Her treatments also had a calming effect on him. There were behavioral things to deal with too, and it was great having someone work with him at that time. I hear tuning forks can be very helpful for children and cupping or guasha (if they will take this.) I do cupping on my son now who is 13 - just to deal with the stagnation of life building up and also to help his pitching arm. Take Care, Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- > Though not directly related ot this, anecdotally I think that it's worth > sharing: One other MAJOR detox symptom I have seen repeatedly in detoxing > patients (I combine acupuncture, chinese herbs CranioSacral therapy and > SomatoEmotional release (Dr. John Upledger's work) besides the Orange urine and > stool is that the patient suddenly gets VERY COLD. I treated a little 9 year > old boy this morning who has had a rather serious case of ADHD. His parents > refuse to medicate him, and he is now in his 3rd school in 3 years. In addition, > he suffers from a severe facial, neck and shoulder tic, and has extraordinary > fears of the dark and of course, needles. I have been treating him for nearly 2 > years. During today's session, he had a major release of a trauma that has been > with him since conception: It so happens that his 12 year old sister is > handicapped with muscular dystrophy. I don't want to go through the whole > process, but what came out was that from the time he was > conceived, he mother was overwhelmed with the fear that her new fetus would > also be handicapped. That fear became implanted in his abdominal cavity, > particularly in the upper right side. As it started to be released, he asked > for a blanket, and started shivering (even though here in LA it was in the high > 70's). When the release was completed, he felt fine, was calm, focused and > according to his father, hasn't had tics since, though they were constant > heretofore. Oh, BTW, I asked at the end of the session if he would be > interested in having me place ear seeds, and unhesitantingly, he said yes. > > The point I want to make is that when deep emotional or toxic stuff is > released, don't be surprised by VERY unusual accompanying symptoms. > > Sincerely > > Yehuda > > Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote: > Hi Yehuda, thanks for the ideas.. > > > Has she taken alot of antibiotics? > > No she hasn't, although she has an emotionally > derived Sp Qi damage (Liv insulting Sp + lots of > worry/overthinking). > > > child, during the process of detoxification (moving > > accumulation and stagnation, particularly in the > > liver, > > This is possible. In this past year she has given up > on a lot of old (angry and resentful) beliefs and has > struggled greatly with the ramifications thereof. Her > tongue has shown, over the period of one year, greatly > reduced phlegm in the heart region, an overall > decrease in thickness and greasiness of the tongue > coating, and a 90% improvement in what used to be her > extremely foul breath. I am mainly worried about this > strange colour in light of her very rapid (and rocky) > improvement (change). Don't want to change things too > fast, you know. > > > that it is unreasonable to surmise that this > > accumulation could back up and manifest in the > > tongue as well. > > I hope it is something like this, thank you, and if > you run into any info, if you could send it my way, I > would greatly appreciate that! > Hugo > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Thank you, Anne You bring up a very important point. In school we all take one or so courses on pediatrics, but children are a world unto themselves. I have so much to learn and I find it so humbling to deal with this pure and oh so sensitive beings. I have learned a lot, and learn much intuitively as well. I also think that anyone who can successfully treat infants, children and seniors develops a heightened sensitivity making for a much better therapist/physician. Keep teaching and I will keep learning. All the best, Yehuda anne.crowley wrote: Great for you, Yehuda, hanging in with this child. It sounds like the work you have done has really helped him. Have you heard of Jeremy Ross's book on child acpuncture? He has a point in the cervical vertebrae area that really helps calm an ADHD child. Can't tell you the exact location. The ear seeds will also be very nice. When my son was 9 I took him to an acupuncturist for similar problems. He was having nightmares and was hyperactive (for lack of a more precise term). The acupuncturist used a probe on the points (he hated needles and his trauma over them quickly eliminated them), later used a laser, also used ear pellets (sometimes). I saw amazing improvement with the nighmares in a few months. Her treatments also had a calming effect on him. There were behavioral things to deal with too, and it was great having someone work with him at that time. I hear tuning forks can be very helpful for children and cupping or guasha (if they will take this.) I do cupping on my son now who is 13 - just to deal with the stagnation of life building up and also to help his pitching arm. Take Care, Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- > Though not directly related ot this, anecdotally I think that it's worth > sharing: One other MAJOR detox symptom I have seen repeatedly in detoxing > patients (I combine acupuncture, chinese herbs CranioSacral therapy and > SomatoEmotional release (Dr. John Upledger's work) besides the Orange urine and > stool is that the patient suddenly gets VERY COLD. I treated a little 9 year > old boy this morning who has had a rather serious case of ADHD. His parents > refuse to medicate him, and he is now in his 3rd school in 3 years. In addition, > he suffers from a severe facial, neck and shoulder tic, and has extraordinary > fears of the dark and of course, needles. I have been treating him for nearly 2 > years. During today's session, he had a major release of a trauma that has been > with him since conception: It so happens that his 12 year old sister is > handicapped with muscular dystrophy. I don't want to go through the whole > process, but what came out was that from the time he was > conceived, he mother was overwhelmed with the fear that her new fetus would > also be handicapped. That fear became implanted in his abdominal cavity, > particularly in the upper right side. As it started to be released, he asked > for a blanket, and started shivering (even though here in LA it was in the high > 70's). When the release was completed, he felt fine, was calm, focused and > according to his father, hasn't had tics since, though they were constant > heretofore. Oh, BTW, I asked at the end of the session if he would be > interested in having me place ear seeds, and unhesitantingly, he said yes. > > The point I want to make is that when deep emotional or toxic stuff is > released, don't be surprised by VERY unusual accompanying symptoms. > > Sincerely > > Yehuda > > Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote: > Hi Yehuda, thanks for the ideas.. > > > Has she taken alot of antibiotics? > > No she hasn't, although she has an emotionally > derived Sp Qi damage (Liv insulting Sp + lots of > worry/overthinking). > > > child, during the process of detoxification (moving > > accumulation and stagnation, particularly in the > > liver, > > This is possible. In this past year she has given up > on a lot of old (angry and resentful) beliefs and has > struggled greatly with the ramifications thereof. Her > tongue has shown, over the period of one year, greatly > reduced phlegm in the heart region, an overall > decrease in thickness and greasiness of the tongue > coating, and a 90% improvement in what used to be her > extremely foul breath. I am mainly worried about this > strange colour in light of her very rapid (and rocky) > improvement (change). Don't want to change things too > fast, you know. > > > that it is unreasonable to surmise that this > > accumulation could back up and manifest in the > > tongue as well. > > I hope it is something like this, thank you, and if > you run into any info, if you could send it my way, I > would greatly appreciate that! > Hugo > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Hello Yehuda: The author of Acupuncture in The Treatment of Children (1999) is Julian Scott and Theresa Barlow. Julian Scott is well know in pediatic acupuncture. I don't know Jeremy Ross's work (I meant to say Julian Scott) You can try Amazon.com Think it is $79 U.S. there. Also try www.besbuybooks. or bestwebbuys. They have a list of various wholesale places you can purchase it and it is ranging around $65 U.S. Good luck with this. As I remember this story more clearly, my son was 5 when we first started him in tx with the nighmares. The probe (on the points) alone settled him and calmed his nightmares. I remember him getting acupunctue until he was about 9 - sports schedules interferred and the acupuncurist was not close by. It helped him alot. I began to do accupressure on him until I got out of school. He took the back shu needles but is much happier not with the cupping. Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- > Thank you, Anne > > You bring up a very important point. In school we all take one or so courses > on pediatrics, but children are a world unto themselves. I have so much to > learn and I find it so humbling to deal with this pure and oh so sensitive > beings. I have learned a lot, and learn much intuitively as well. I also think > that anyone who can successfully treat infants, children and seniors develops a > heightened sensitivity making for a much better therapist/physician. > > Keep teaching and I will keep learning. > > All the best, > > Yehuda > > anne.crowley wrote: > Great for you, Yehuda, hanging in with this child. It sounds like the > work you have done has really helped him. Have you heard of Jeremy Ross's book > on child acpuncture? He has a point in the cervical vertebrae area that really > helps calm an ADHD child. Can't tell you the exact location. The ear seeds will > also be very nice. > > When my son was 9 I took him to an acupuncturist for similar problems. He was > having nightmares and was hyperactive (for lack of a more precise term). The > acupuncturist used a probe on the points (he hated needles and his trauma over > them quickly eliminated them), later used a laser, also used ear pellets > (sometimes). I saw amazing improvement with the nighmares in a few months. Her > treatments also had a calming effect on him. There were behavioral things to > deal with too, and it was great having someone work with him at that time. I > hear tuning forks can be very helpful for children and cupping or guasha (if > they will take this.) I do cupping on my son now who is 13 - just to deal with > the stagnation of life building up and also to help his pitching arm. > > Take Care, > > Anne > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > > Though not directly related ot this, anecdotally I think that it's worth > > sharing: One other MAJOR detox symptom I have seen repeatedly in detoxing > > patients (I combine acupuncture, chinese herbs CranioSacral therapy and > > SomatoEmotional release (Dr. John Upledger's work) besides the Orange urine > and > > stool is that the patient suddenly gets VERY COLD. I treated a little 9 year > > old boy this morning who has had a rather serious case of ADHD. His parents > > refuse to medicate him, and he is now in his 3rd school in 3 years. In > addition, > > he suffers from a severe facial, neck and shoulder tic, and has extraordinary > > fears of the dark and of course, needles. I have been treating him for nearly > 2 > > years. During today's session, he had a major release of a trauma that has > been > > with him since conception: It so happens that his 12 year old sister is > > handicapped with muscular dystrophy. I don't want to go through the whole > > process, but what came out was that from the time he was > > conceived, he mother was overwhelmed with the fear that her new fetus would > > also be handicapped. That fear became implanted in his abdominal cavity, > > particularly in the upper right side. As it started to be released, he asked > > for a blanket, and started shivering (even though here in LA it was in the > high > > 70's). When the release was completed, he felt fine, was calm, focused and > > according to his father, hasn't had tics since, though they were constant > > heretofore. Oh, BTW, I asked at the end of the session if he would be > > interested in having me place ear seeds, and unhesitantingly, he said yes. > > > > The point I want to make is that when deep emotional or toxic stuff is > > released, don't be surprised by VERY unusual accompanying symptoms. > > > > Sincerely > > > > Yehuda > > > > Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote: > > Hi Yehuda, thanks for the ideas.. > > > > > Has she taken alot of antibiotics? > > > > No she hasn't, although she has an emotionally > > derived Sp Qi damage (Liv insulting Sp + lots of > > worry/overthinking). > > > > > child, during the process of detoxification (moving > > > accumulation and stagnation, particularly in the > > > liver, > > > > This is possible. In this past year she has given up > > on a lot of old (angry and resentful) beliefs and has > > struggled greatly with the ramifications thereof. Her > > tongue has shown, over the period of one year, greatly > > reduced phlegm in the heart region, an overall > > decrease in thickness and greasiness of the tongue > > coating, and a 90% improvement in what used to be her > > extremely foul breath. I am mainly worried about this > > strange colour in light of her very rapid (and rocky) > > improvement (change). Don't want to change things too > > fast, you know. > > > > > that it is unreasonable to surmise that this > > > accumulation could back up and manifest in the > > > tongue as well. > > > > I hope it is something like this, thank you, and if > > you run into any info, if you could send it my way, I > > would greatly appreciate that! > > Hugo > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ > > > > > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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