Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Hello everyone- I have a question about my patient's labradoodles (Labrador/Poodle mix). I have not treated animals. Both dogs are males and brothers. One has a problem with biting and scratching himself all over. He is easily distracted from it and it is not specific to one area of his body. The vet said she did not think that it was an allergy and there is not sign of a rash. Another vet suggested that he was bored! He is kind of hyper and does not stay still very long. The other dog has had problems with his ears. They first thought it was " swimmers ear " but the symptoms return even if he is not swimming. He recently had knee surgery and was on a strong antibiotic which cleared up the symptoms but they have returned. The symptoms are redness, itchiness and discharge. He is much more mellow than his brother. Anyway, the owners of these cute dogs have asked me if acupuncture and herbal medicine would help. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Rebecca Rebecca Rizzetta, L.Ac 415.948.8360 ______________________________\ ____ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Hi Rebecca, Hello list members, Regarding the lovely dogs problems - the general approach might be the same as you do for human beings - collect a good history (thinking about Int/Ext/Excess/Heat/Cold/Def/Yin/Yang etc), check the tongue body/coat as well as specific locations on the tongue, check out the femoral arteries pulses (at the level of the heart), back shu + mu pts etc. Then you are coming to a diagnosis, yes - the same as in people...it might be SP Qi Def or else, and then - accordingly you check out your therapeutic aims/targets (e.g to strength the SP, disperse Dampness etc) - and accordingly you select your acupts and or remedies. Simple? isn't? It is important to go this way because you can evaluate along the way why you are successful or you have failures. If one(you?) will do it we can go further on... Sagiv. Dr. Sagiv Ben-Yakir BSC DVM(in honor) MRCVS CVA(IVAS) benyakir - Rebecca (Nerdahl) Rizzetta Chinese Medicine Monday, January 15, 2007 8:56 AM treatment for labradoodles Hello everyone- I have a question about my patient's labradoodles (Labrador/Poodle mix). I have not treated animals. Both dogs are males and brothers. One has a problem with biting and scratching himself all over. He is easily distracted from it and it is not specific to one area of his body. The vet said she did not think that it was an allergy and there is not sign of a rash. Another vet suggested that he was bored! He is kind of hyper and does not stay still very long. The other dog has had problems with his ears. They first thought it was " swimmers ear " but the symptoms return even if he is not swimming. He recently had knee surgery and was on a strong antibiotic which cleared up the symptoms but they have returned. The symptoms are redness, itchiness and discharge. He is much more mellow than his brother. Anyway, the owners of these cute dogs have asked me if acupuncture and herbal medicine would help. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Rebecca Rebecca Rizzetta, L.Ac 415.948.8360 ________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Thank you! I will not be doing the treatment but will probably try to do a tongue and pulse anyway. Thanks again --- Ben-Yakir <benyakir wrote: > Hi Rebecca, Hello list members, > Regarding the lovely dogs problems - the general > approach might be the same as you do for human > beings - > collect a good history (thinking about > Int/Ext/Excess/Heat/Cold/Def/Yin/Yang etc), check > the tongue body/coat as well as specific locations > on the tongue, check out the femoral arteries pulses > (at the level of the heart), back shu + mu pts etc. > Then you are coming to a diagnosis, yes - the same > as in people...it might be SP Qi Def or else, and > then - accordingly you > check out your therapeutic aims/targets (e.g to > strength the SP, disperse Dampness etc) - and > accordingly you select your acupts and or remedies. > Simple? isn't? > It is important to go this way because you can > evaluate along the way why you are successful or you > have failures. > If one(you?) will do it we can go further on... > Sagiv. > > Dr. Sagiv Ben-Yakir > BSC DVM(in honor) MRCVS CVA(IVAS) > benyakir > > - > Rebecca (Nerdahl) Rizzetta > Chinese Medicine > Monday, January 15, 2007 8:56 AM > treatment for labradoodles > > > Hello everyone- > I have a question about my patient's labradoodles > (Labrador/Poodle mix). I have not treated animals. > > Both dogs are males and brothers. One has a > problem > with biting and scratching himself all over. He is > easily distracted from it and it is not specific > to > one area of his body. The vet said she did not > think > that it was an allergy and there is not sign of a > rash. Another vet suggested that he was bored! He > is > kind of hyper and does not stay still very long. > The > other dog has had problems with his ears. They > first > thought it was " swimmers ear " but the symptoms > return > even if he is not swimming. He recently had knee > surgery and was on a strong antibiotic which > cleared > up the symptoms but they have returned. The > symptoms > are redness, itchiness and discharge. He is much > more > mellow than his brother. Anyway, the owners of > these > cute dogs have asked me if acupuncture and herbal > medicine would help. Any suggestions? > Thanks in advance > Rebecca > > Rebecca Rizzetta, L.Ac > 415.948.8360 > > > ________ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' > Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Rebecca Rizzetta, L.Ac 415.948.8360 ______________________________\ ____ Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile./services?promote=mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Chinese Medicine , " Rebecca Rebecca, > Both dogs are males and brothers. One has a problem > with biting and scratching himself all over. He is > easily distracted from it and it is not specific to > one area of his body. The vet said she did not think > that it was an allergy and there is not sign of a > rash. Another vet suggested that he was bored! Don't dissmiss the " bored " DX. I am very familiar with a related breed, the goldendoodle (golden retriever poodle mix) and know the labradoodle through other owners. Both of these doodle breeds have " hyrid vitality, " are extremely active. smart, and require much exercise. I've seen the biting/scratching behavior in one dog (of 32 I know) and this dog is confined to a quarter-acre fenced lot. If there is anything like this restriction in the dog's environment, it is definately worth trying to increase its activity. These are not " go for a walk around the block " animals. They easily handle multi-day trips, in deep snow, covering miles, even carrying their own food in dog backpacks. In an urban environment, they take to agility and service dog training. With both the parent breeds being working dogs they can be easily trained as field dogs. The one bite/scratch case I know was " cured " by training as a hospital dog; he spends time vising alzhiemers patients and sick kids and gets regular trips to a country kennel where he runs for hours with outher big dogs. Attention and activity are essential to their health. Bob Felt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 yes, animals respond to TCM, just like people do. the challenge is taking the history, since they can't talk. the ear sounds like a ph heat issue. look at pediatric ear infect. tx. as for the skin issue, c/b w/h. check out tx for itching in the big, yellow 'derm in TCM' book. dose herbs by weight. i believe its 150g herbs per 70 kilos, if i recall correctly, just like people. look at dosing ranges for ped's by weight as a guide. one thing you do want to check out are the laws in your state re: tx animals. in most states with FEW exceptions (maryland is ONE) you cannot tx animals with a human acu lic. in almost all states (excepting maryland) you MUST have a vet lic to tx animals. human trained LAcs cannot even work under a vets lic to do acu. in NC, i treat my own animals, but that's all. hope this helps, k On 1/15/07, Rebecca (Nerdahl) Rizzetta <beckynsf wrote: > > Hello everyone- > I have a question about my patient's labradoodles > (Labrador/Poodle mix). I have not treated animals. > Both dogs are males and brothers. One has a problem > with biting and scratching himself all over. He is > easily distracted from it and it is not specific to > one area of his body. The vet said she did not think > that it was an allergy and there is not sign of a > rash. Another vet suggested that he was bored! He is > kind of hyper and does not stay still very long. The > other dog has had problems with his ears. They first > thought it was " swimmers ear " but the symptoms return > even if he is not swimming. He recently had knee > surgery and was on a strong antibiotic which cleared > up the symptoms but they have returned. The symptoms > are redness, itchiness and discharge. He is much more > mellow than his brother. Anyway, the owners of these > cute dogs have asked me if acupuncture and herbal > medicine would help. Any suggestions? > Thanks in advance > Rebecca > > Rebecca Rizzetta, L.Ac > 415.948.8360 > > ________ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > > -- Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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