Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hi All, I will be travelling by air on a 5 1/2 hour journey with my twin boys. They almost 2 years. Last time was a disaster with a lot of kicking and screaming. I am certain that there was no ear trouble because the problems started while still on the ground. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestion with herbs for kids, or any personal experience how to calm toddlers on a plane. Aside from bringing toys, snacks, dvd's and the usual distractions, when all hell breaks loose..it's hard. I will bring Quiet Calm, a pediatric K'an herb. I has alcohol in it, which I am not against. They are robust, active children with a tendency for phlegm accumulation-croupy coughs on and off all winter, runny noses, etc Thanks,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Well, first of all, my sympathy! I am a twin, myself, for starters and have two small children. I did alot of flying with my little boy, often on the really long haul pacific flights. (18+hours) Between 1 year old and 2 and a half. I found that the bach flower essence " rescue remedy " has its moments for when things get really out of hand, although Ive had other homepathic remedies for " calming " children back fire on me when I guess they werent really indicated. (Seemed to make them more hyped up....ooooppps.) I just did all the usual things, like lots of good snacks if possible, activities to do, books to read to them etc. If at all possible its good to let them go completely nuts before you get on the plane (like in airport departure lounges) Id have my little one running laps if possible, then hope for him to pass out as soon as you get on board. Sometimes though, on really long flights, you just have to let them get up and walk up and down the aisle. This should be fine as long as they arent sticking things up sleeping peoples noses. I guess little boys just arent geared towards sitting still for too long, so unless they get really upset, then its really nothing that needs to be medicated for. (And if the staff are rude and inconsiderate of the special needs of someone travelling with small children, then you can have the ultimate revenge in just letting them go for it, as long as they arent traumatizing fellow travellers too much.) One of my problems was always feeling slightly apologetic about having children making noise and disturbing people, but really a large part of this is just that our society isnt geared towards children anymore. So stuff them, unless they're being terrible brats, let them be little kids! (And on another note, my friend was just involved with a theatre group for Australian Aboriginal kids, and they flew them down to the nearest big city for a performance. Most of these kids had hardly worn shoes before, let alone been on a 'plane. Apparantly most of them were so excited they couldnt even sit down for the whole 2 hour flight! ) Good luck, Lea. --- In Chinese Medicine , " harmonichealing " <judith wrote: > > Hi All, > I will be travelling by air on a 5 1/2 hour journey with my twin > boys. They almost 2 years. Last time was a disaster with a lot of > kicking and screaming. I am certain that there was no ear trouble > because the problems started while still on the ground. > > I was wondering if anyone has any suggestion with herbs for kids, or > any personal experience how to calm toddlers on a plane. Aside from > bringing toys, snacks, dvd's and the usual distractions, when all > hell breaks loose..it's hard. > > I will bring Quiet Calm, a pediatric K'an herb. I has alcohol in it, > which I am not against. > > They are robust, active children with a tendency for phlegm > accumulation-croupy coughs on and off all winter, runny noses, etc > > Thanks,. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Lea: Once again you have me in stiches. I have two teenagers now but the memories of their youth are emblazened. On our trip to Disneyland (Florida) from Washington D.C. area, my husband books it through Tennessee or some such thing. Either he or the airline was having trouble with the shortest distance between two points. My infant had some difficulty with the landing and screamed the whole time. Then he promptly threw up all over me as we landed. A limo was waitng for us (part of the package) on the other end. The business travellers walked by me with very smpathethic looks, one even stating he knew all about what I was going through. A practiitioner once recommended I put rescue remedy in a spray bottle with water (glass or plastic - I prefer the blue glass) - 20 - 40 drops and shake. I spray this around my kitchen to calm the dogs and other life forms. It seems to clear the energy nicely and quickly. Maybe a spray bottle on the plane, near the children and discreetly spray as you walk to the bathroom. While this is not TCM it is promoting peace among children and those they come in contact with. Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- " Lea Starck " <leabun1 > Well, first of all, my sympathy! I am a twin, myself, for starters and > have two small children. I did alot of flying with my little boy, often on > the really long haul pacific flights. (18+hours) Between 1 year old and 2 > and a half. > I found that the bach flower essence " rescue remedy " has its moments > for when things get really out of hand, although Ive had other > homepathic remedies for " calming " children back fire on me when I > guess they werent really indicated. (Seemed to make them more hyped > up....ooooppps.) I just did all the usual things, like lots of good snacks > if possible, activities to do, books to read to them etc. If at all possible > its good to let them go completely nuts before you get on the plane > (like in airport departure lounges) Id have my little one running laps if > possible, then hope for him to pass out as soon as you get on board. > Sometimes though, on really long flights, you just have to let them get > up and walk up and down the aisle. This should be fine as long as they > arent sticking things up sleeping peoples noses. > I guess little boys just arent geared towards sitting still for too long, so > unless they get really upset, then its really nothing that needs to be > medicated for. (And if the staff are rude and inconsiderate of the > special needs of someone travelling with small children, then you can > have the ultimate revenge in just letting them go for it, as long as they > arent traumatizing fellow travellers too much.) One of my problems was > always feeling slightly apologetic about having children making noise > and disturbing people, but really a large part of this is just that our > society isnt geared towards children anymore. So stuff them, unless > they're being terrible brats, let them be little kids! > (And on another note, my friend was just involved with a theatre group > for Australian Aboriginal kids, and they flew them down to the nearest > big city for a performance. Most of these kids had hardly worn shoes > before, let alone been on a 'plane. Apparantly most of them were so > excited they couldnt even sit down for the whole 2 hour flight! ) > Good luck, > Lea. > --- In > Chinese Medicine , " harmonichealing " > <judith wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > I will be travelling by air on a 5 1/2 hour journey with my twin > > boys. They almost 2 years. Last time was a disaster with a lot of > > kicking and screaming. I am certain that there was no ear trouble > > because the problems started while still on the ground. > > > > I was wondering if anyone has any suggestion with herbs for kids, or > > any personal experience how to calm toddlers on a plane. Aside from > > bringing toys, snacks, dvd's and the usual distractions, when all > > hell breaks loose..it's hard. > > > > I will bring Quiet Calm, a pediatric K'an herb. I has alcohol in it, > > which I am not against. > > > > They are robust, active children with a tendency for phlegm > > accumulation-croupy coughs on and off all winter, runny noses, etc > > > > Thanks,. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Thanks for the recommendations. I'm flying next week with my 11 month old on a 3 hour flight, our first flight with him. Any suggestions for internal herbs, such as curing pills for air sickness etc..? I like the rescue remedy spray bottle idea. Thanks. On 1/18/07, anne.crowley <anne.crowley wrote: > > Lea: > > Once again you have me in stiches. I have two teenagers now but the > memories of their youth are emblazened. On our trip to Disneyland (Florida) > from Washington D.C. area, my husband books it through Tennessee or some > such thing. Either he or the airline was having trouble with the shortest > distance between two points. My infant had some difficulty with the landing > and screamed the whole time. Then he promptly threw up all over me as we > landed. A limo was waitng for us (part of the package) on the other end. The > business travellers walked by me with very smpathethic looks, one even > stating he knew all about what I was going through. > > A practiitioner once recommended I put rescue remedy in a spray bottle > with water (glass or plastic - I prefer the blue glass) - 20 - 40 drops and > shake. I spray this around my kitchen to calm the dogs and other life forms. > It seems to clear the energy nicely and quickly. Maybe a spray bottle on the > plane, near the children and discreetly spray as you walk to the bathroom. > While this is not TCM it is promoting peace among children and those they > come in contact with. > > Anne > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > " Lea Starck " <leabun1 <leabun1%40.au>> > > Well, first of all, my sympathy! I am a twin, myself, for starters > and > > have two small children. I did alot of flying with my little boy, often > on > > the really long haul pacific flights. (18+hours) Between 1 year old and > 2 > > and a half. > > I found that the bach flower essence " rescue remedy " has its moments > > for when things get really out of hand, although Ive had other > > homepathic remedies for " calming " children back fire on me when I > > guess they werent really indicated. (Seemed to make them more hyped > > up....ooooppps.) I just did all the usual things, like lots of good > snacks > > if possible, activities to do, books to read to them etc. If at all > possible > > its good to let them go completely nuts before you get on the plane > > (like in airport departure lounges) Id have my little one running laps > if > > possible, then hope for him to pass out as soon as you get on board. > > Sometimes though, on really long flights, you just have to let them get > > up and walk up and down the aisle. This should be fine as long as they > > arent sticking things up sleeping peoples noses. > > I guess little boys just arent geared towards sitting still for too > long, so > > unless they get really upset, then its really nothing that needs to be > > medicated for. (And if the staff are rude and inconsiderate of the > > special needs of someone travelling with small children, then you can > > have the ultimate revenge in just letting them go for it, as long as > they > > arent traumatizing fellow travellers too much.) One of my problems was > > always feeling slightly apologetic about having children making noise > > and disturbing people, but really a large part of this is just that our > > society isnt geared towards children anymore. So stuff them, unless > > they're being terrible brats, let them be little kids! > > (And on another note, my friend was just involved with a theatre group > > for Australian Aboriginal kids, and they flew them down to the nearest > > big city for a performance. Most of these kids had hardly worn shoes > > before, let alone been on a 'plane. Apparantly most of them were so > > excited they couldnt even sit down for the whole 2 hour flight! ) > > Good luck, > > Lea. > > --- In > > Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > " harmonichealing " > > <judith wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > I will be travelling by air on a 5 1/2 hour journey with my twin > > > boys. They almost 2 years. Last time was a disaster with a lot of > > > kicking and screaming. I am certain that there was no ear trouble > > > because the problems started while still on the ground. > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone has any suggestion with herbs for kids, or > > > any personal experience how to calm toddlers on a plane. Aside from > > > bringing toys, snacks, dvd's and the usual distractions, when all > > > hell breaks loose..it's hard. > > > > > > I will bring Quiet Calm, a pediatric K'an herb. I has alcohol in it, > > > which I am not against. > > > > > > They are robust, active children with a tendency for phlegm > > > accumulation-croupy coughs on and off all winter, runny noses, etc > > > > > > Thanks,. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 My first thought of suggestion......start massaging GB and San Jiao Channels around the ear to instigate free flow and prevent this sensitive area from congesting due to the increased and changing air pressures and drafts that are prevalent while flying....actually, as i envision this, i would basically gently massage, daily, both Foot and Hand Shao Yang, head to toe. - Chinese Medicine Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:06 PM Re: Re: air travel w/ twins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 thanks for the responses today was a very difficult day w/ one of the boys..it was a virtual tantrum all day. i tried " quiet calm " , motrin,acupuncture first liv-3 and LI-4, and several hours later ht-7.he is fine with acupuncture, crys a little, trys to push me away. julian scott recommends not to treat our own kids, but i felt like i had to do something. some biting attempts, food hurling, screaming, severe head banging. it is difficult to get this child to nap.he was fine when i took him out for a while to play at a cafe. next time i will do st-40 for phlegm--he has a cold, stuffy nose, but i can't tell if he has a headache, possibly a sore throat. he is clingy, and angry. i am learning as i go, as all new parents do, and even with my knowledge i feel helpless and worn out. i hope things get better by next week. Chinese Medicine , anne.crowley wrote: > > Lea: > > Once again you have me in stiches. I have two teenagers now but the memories of their youth are emblazened. On our trip to Disneyland (Florida) from Washington D.C. area, my husband books it through Tennessee or some such thing. Either he or the airline was having trouble with the shortest distance between two points. My infant had some difficulty with the landing and screamed the whole time. Then he promptly threw up all over me as we landed. A limo was waitng for us (part of the package) on the other end. The business travellers walked by me with very smpathethic looks, one even stating he knew all about what I was going through. > > A practiitioner once recommended I put rescue remedy in a spray bottle with water (glass or plastic - I prefer the blue glass) - 20 - 40 drops and shake. I spray this around my kitchen to calm the dogs and other life forms. It seems to clear the energy nicely and quickly. Maybe a spray bottle on the plane, near the children and discreetly spray as you walk to the bathroom. While this is not TCM it is promoting peace among children and those they come in contact with. > > Anne > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > " Lea Starck " <leabun1 > > Well, first of all, my sympathy! I am a twin, myself, for starters and > > have two small children. I did alot of flying with my little boy, often on > > the really long haul pacific flights. (18+hours) Between 1 year old and 2 > > and a half. > > I found that the bach flower essence " rescue remedy " has its moments > > for when things get really out of hand, although Ive had other > > homepathic remedies for " calming " children back fire on me when I > > guess they werent really indicated. (Seemed to make them more hyped > > up....ooooppps.) I just did all the usual things, like lots of good snacks > > if possible, activities to do, books to read to them etc. If at all possible > > its good to let them go completely nuts before you get on the plane > > (like in airport departure lounges) Id have my little one running laps if > > possible, then hope for him to pass out as soon as you get on board. > > Sometimes though, on really long flights, you just have to let them get > > up and walk up and down the aisle. This should be fine as long as they > > arent sticking things up sleeping peoples noses. > > I guess little boys just arent geared towards sitting still for too long, so > > unless they get really upset, then its really nothing that needs to be > > medicated for. (And if the staff are rude and inconsiderate of the > > special needs of someone travelling with small children, then you can > > have the ultimate revenge in just letting them go for it, as long as they > > arent traumatizing fellow travellers too much.) One of my problems was > > always feeling slightly apologetic about having children making noise > > and disturbing people, but really a large part of this is just that our > > society isnt geared towards children anymore. So stuff them, unless > > they're being terrible brats, let them be little kids! > > (And on another note, my friend was just involved with a theatre group > > for Australian Aboriginal kids, and they flew them down to the nearest > > big city for a performance. Most of these kids had hardly worn shoes > > before, let alone been on a 'plane. Apparantly most of them were so > > excited they couldnt even sit down for the whole 2 hour flight! ) > > Good luck, > > Lea. > > --- In > > Chinese Medicine , " harmonichealing " > > <judith@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > I will be travelling by air on a 5 1/2 hour journey with my twin > > > boys. They almost 2 years. Last time was a disaster with a lot of > > > kicking and screaming. I am certain that there was no ear trouble > > > because the problems started while still on the ground. > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone has any suggestion with herbs for kids, or > > > any personal experience how to calm toddlers on a plane. Aside from > > > bringing toys, snacks, dvd's and the usual distractions, when all > > > hell breaks loose..it's hard. > > > > > > I will bring Quiet Calm, a pediatric K'an herb. I has alcohol in it, > > > which I am not against. > > > > > > They are robust, active children with a tendency for phlegm > > > accumulation-croupy coughs on and off all winter, runny noses, etc > > > > > > Thanks,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Judith: I think I agree with Julian Scott on this and I know sometimes we just have to be the one to treat our child. You might try a practiioner when you are home that is good with kids, knows methods kids can handle. This may give you a lot of peace of mind when you find someone suited for your child. I have also heard great things about craniosacral work for children. I had a child with anger and what was labeled hyperactivity - some of the symptoms of ADHD. I did find a practitoner to help me through it. We had to work stricltly with acupuncture (a probe or laser) and it helped a lot. I will say, a lot of this disapated over the years as he got older. The constraints of our society may cause liver Qi depression. However, when you are a going through it with a young child it is very taxing. Hang in there and make sure you are gettng very good treament too. Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- " harmonichealing " <judith > thanks for the responses > today was a very difficult day w/ one of the boys..it was a virtual > tantrum all day. > > i tried " quiet calm " , motrin,acupuncture first liv-3 and LI-4, and > several hours later ht-7.he is fine with acupuncture, crys a little, > trys to push me away. > julian scott recommends not to treat our own kids, but i felt like i > had to do something. > > some biting attempts, food hurling, screaming, severe head banging. > it is difficult to get this child to nap.he was fine when i took him > out for a while to play at a cafe. > > next time i will do st-40 for phlegm--he has a cold, stuffy nose, > but i can't tell if he has a headache, possibly a sore throat. > > he is clingy, and angry. > > i am learning as i go, as all new parents do, and even with my > knowledge i feel helpless and worn out. > > i hope things get better by next week. > > > Chinese Medicine , > anne.crowley wrote: > > > > Lea: > > > > Once again you have me in stiches. I have two teenagers now but > the memories of their youth are emblazened. On our trip to > Disneyland (Florida) from Washington D.C. area, my husband books it > through Tennessee or some such thing. Either he or the airline was > having trouble with the shortest distance between two points. My > infant had some difficulty with the landing and screamed the whole > time. Then he promptly threw up all over me as we landed. A limo > was waitng for us (part of the package) on the other end. The > business travellers walked by me with very smpathethic looks, one > even stating he knew all about what I was going through. > > > > A practiitioner once recommended I put rescue remedy in a spray > bottle with water (glass or plastic - I prefer the blue glass) - 20 - > 40 drops and shake. I spray this around my kitchen to calm the > dogs and other life forms. It seems to clear the energy nicely and > quickly. Maybe a spray bottle on the plane, near the children and > discreetly spray as you walk to the bathroom. While this is not TCM > it is promoting peace among children and those they come in contact > with. > > > > Anne > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > " Lea Starck " <leabun1 > > > Well, first of all, my sympathy! I am a twin, myself, for > starters and > > > have two small children. I did alot of flying with my little > boy, often on > > > the really long haul pacific flights. (18+hours) Between 1 year > old and 2 > > > and a half. > > > I found that the bach flower essence " rescue remedy " has its > moments > > > for when things get really out of hand, although Ive had other > > > homepathic remedies for " calming " children back fire on me when > I > > > guess they werent really indicated. (Seemed to make them more > hyped > > > up....ooooppps.) I just did all the usual things, like lots of > good snacks > > > if possible, activities to do, books to read to them etc. If at > all possible > > > its good to let them go completely nuts before you get on the > plane > > > (like in airport departure lounges) Id have my little one > running laps if > > > possible, then hope for him to pass out as soon as you get on > board. > > > Sometimes though, on really long flights, you just have to let > them get > > > up and walk up and down the aisle. This should be fine as long > as they > > > arent sticking things up sleeping peoples noses. > > > I guess little boys just arent geared towards sitting still for > too long, so > > > unless they get really upset, then its really nothing that needs > to be > > > medicated for. (And if the staff are rude and inconsiderate of > the > > > special needs of someone travelling with small children, then > you can > > > have the ultimate revenge in just letting them go for it, as > long as they > > > arent traumatizing fellow travellers too much.) One of my > problems was > > > always feeling slightly apologetic about having children making > noise > > > and disturbing people, but really a large part of this is just > that our > > > society isnt geared towards children anymore. So stuff them, > unless > > > they're being terrible brats, let them be little kids! > > > (And on another note, my friend was just involved with a theatre > group > > > for Australian Aboriginal kids, and they flew them down to the > nearest > > > big city for a performance. Most of these kids had hardly worn > shoes > > > before, let alone been on a 'plane. Apparantly most of them were > so > > > excited they couldnt even sit down for the whole 2 hour > flight! ) > > > Good luck, > > > Lea. > > > --- In > > > Chinese Medicine , " harmonichealing " > > > <judith@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > I will be travelling by air on a 5 1/2 hour journey with my > twin > > > > boys. They almost 2 years. Last time was a disaster with a lot > of > > > > kicking and screaming. I am certain that there was no ear > trouble > > > > because the problems started while still on the ground. > > > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone has any suggestion with herbs for > kids, or > > > > any personal experience how to calm toddlers on a plane. Aside > from > > > > bringing toys, snacks, dvd's and the usual distractions, when > all > > > > hell breaks loose..it's hard. > > > > > > > > I will bring Quiet Calm, a pediatric K'an herb. I has alcohol > in it, > > > > which I am not against. > > > > > > > > They are robust, active children with a tendency for phlegm > > > > accumulation-croupy coughs on and off all winter, runny noses, > etc > > > > > > > > Thanks,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 we have some good cranial people here that work in pediatircs. last night he like a child possessed--i have seen it before when he was sick w/ a fever.the scaist part is when he throws himself at the wall or door, and he even made himself bleed. he did not seem to be running a fever this time,just checking subjectively, i did not take a temperature. the cheeks were cherry red as well as the chin. tongue appeared unremarkable, sl. swollen glands (they always are papable)just screaming and crying out of control at night from 1;30-4pm. which is a usual bad time--liv/lung time. i treated him w/ ht 7 one side w/ st 40 (didn't bother w/ the other side-too squirmy) and du14.he seemed angry and frustrated, " out of his mind " i was thinking about " phlegm misting the mind " . after 3 hrs of this, i finally changes my attitute of anger and resentment, and placed my hnads on his back and send positve qi energy and thoughts. well what do know , he finally fell asleep. today he was fine, had a good day in daycare.the usual fussiness about napping.his naps are short often, it's hard for him to settle down.the redness in the cheeks disapated. i was thinking about a 5e possession tx i learned in school today, but i couln't think of the sequence. i don't think it's approopriate for little ones at all, but i am not sure. he does not like to be cooped up in this weather, which may be part of the problem. i have no problem getting him tx in the near future.i am considering counseling to help me better deal with problems that come up and my attitude. I have been getting tx myself lately, which seems like a part-time job...but it's a good job. judith Chinese Medicine , anne.crowley wrote: > > Judith: > > I think I agree with Julian Scott on this and I know sometimes we just have to be the one to treat our child. You might try a practiioner when you are home that is good with kids, knows methods kids can handle. This may give you a lot of peace of mind when you find someone suited for your child. I have also heard great things about craniosacral work for children. I had a child with anger and what was labeled hyperactivity - some of the symptoms of ADHD. I did find a practitoner to help me through it. We had to work stricltly with acupuncture (a probe or laser) and it helped a lot. I will say, a lot of this disapated over the years as he got older. The constraints of our society may cause liver Qi depression. However, when you are a going through it with a young child it is very taxing. Hang in there and make sure you are gettng very good treament too. > > Anne > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > " harmonichealing " <judith > > thanks for the responses > > today was a very difficult day w/ one of the boys..it was a virtual > > tantrum all day. > > > > i tried " quiet calm " , motrin,acupuncture first liv-3 and LI-4, and > > several hours later ht-7.he is fine with acupuncture, crys a little, > > trys to push me away. > > julian scott recommends not to treat our own kids, but i felt like i > > had to do something. > > > > some biting attempts, food hurling, screaming, severe head banging. > > it is difficult to get this child to nap.he was fine when i took him > > out for a while to play at a cafe. > > > > next time i will do st-40 for phlegm--he has a cold, stuffy nose, > > but i can't tell if he has a headache, possibly a sore throat. > > > > he is clingy, and angry. > > > > i am learning as i go, as all new parents do, and even with my > > knowledge i feel helpless and worn out. > > > > i hope things get better by next week. > > > > > > Chinese Medicine , > > anne.crowley@ wrote: > > > > > > Lea: > > > > > > Once again you have me in stiches. I have two teenagers now but > > the memories of their youth are emblazened. On our trip to > > Disneyland (Florida) from Washington D.C. area, my husband books it > > through Tennessee or some such thing. Either he or the airline was > > having trouble with the shortest distance between two points. My > > infant had some difficulty with the landing and screamed the whole > > time. Then he promptly threw up all over me as we landed. A limo > > was waitng for us (part of the package) on the other end. The > > business travellers walked by me with very smpathethic looks, one > > even stating he knew all about what I was going through. > > > > > > A practiitioner once recommended I put rescue remedy in a spray > > bottle with water (glass or plastic - I prefer the blue glass) - 20 - > > 40 drops and shake. I spray this around my kitchen to calm the > > dogs and other life forms. It seems to clear the energy nicely and > > quickly. Maybe a spray bottle on the plane, near the children and > > discreetly spray as you walk to the bathroom. While this is not TCM > > it is promoting peace among children and those they come in contact > > with. > > > > > > Anne > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > > " Lea Starck " <leabun1@> > > > > Well, first of all, my sympathy! I am a twin, myself, for > > starters and > > > > have two small children. I did alot of flying with my little > > boy, often on > > > > the really long haul pacific flights. (18+hours) Between 1 year > > old and 2 > > > > and a half. > > > > I found that the bach flower essence " rescue remedy " has its > > moments > > > > for when things get really out of hand, although Ive had other > > > > homepathic remedies for " calming " children back fire on me when > > I > > > > guess they werent really indicated. (Seemed to make them more > > hyped > > > > up....ooooppps.) I just did all the usual things, like lots of > > good snacks > > > > if possible, activities to do, books to read to them etc. If at > > all possible > > > > its good to let them go completely nuts before you get on the > > plane > > > > (like in airport departure lounges) Id have my little one > > running laps if > > > > possible, then hope for him to pass out as soon as you get on > > board. > > > > Sometimes though, on really long flights, you just have to let > > them get > > > > up and walk up and down the aisle. This should be fine as long > > as they > > > > arent sticking things up sleeping peoples noses. > > > > I guess little boys just arent geared towards sitting still for > > too long, so > > > > unless they get really upset, then its really nothing that needs > > to be > > > > medicated for. (And if the staff are rude and inconsiderate of > > the > > > > special needs of someone travelling with small children, then > > you can > > > > have the ultimate revenge in just letting them go for it, as > > long as they > > > > arent traumatizing fellow travellers too much.) One of my > > problems was > > > > always feeling slightly apologetic about having children making > > noise > > > > and disturbing people, but really a large part of this is just > > that our > > > > society isnt geared towards children anymore. So stuff them, > > unless > > > > they're being terrible brats, let them be little kids! > > > > (And on another note, my friend was just involved with a theatre > > group > > > > for Australian Aboriginal kids, and they flew them down to the > > nearest > > > > big city for a performance. Most of these kids had hardly worn > > shoes > > > > before, let alone been on a 'plane. Apparantly most of them were > > so > > > > excited they couldnt even sit down for the whole 2 hour > > flight! ) > > > > Good luck, > > > > Lea. > > > > --- In > > > > Chinese Medicine , " harmonichealing " > > > > <judith@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > I will be travelling by air on a 5 1/2 hour journey with my > > twin > > > > > boys. They almost 2 years. Last time was a disaster with a lot > > of > > > > > kicking and screaming. I am certain that there was no ear > > trouble > > > > > because the problems started while still on the ground. > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone has any suggestion with herbs for > > kids, or > > > > > any personal experience how to calm toddlers on a plane. Aside > > from > > > > > bringing toys, snacks, dvd's and the usual distractions, when > > all > > > > > hell breaks loose..it's hard. > > > > > > > > > > I will bring Quiet Calm, a pediatric K'an herb. I has alcohol > > in it, > > > > > which I am not against. > > > > > > > > > > They are robust, active children with a tendency for phlegm > > > > > accumulation-croupy coughs on and off all winter, runny noses, > > etc > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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