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Thomas,

This is my experience as well. If I am 'tuned in', have good

health and qi, the patients come. If I am tired, run down, out of

sorts, they do not. Marketing has never worked for me, or calling up

patients to bug them to come, so I've avoided that.

 

In our field, we have to be focused on the medicine we both live

and practice. That is sometimes very difficult given the economic

and regulatory restraints we face in the modern world.

 

 

On Jan 19, 2007, at 1:08 PM, Thomas Bøgedal Sørensen wrote:

 

> Mr. Vedeler,

>

> Funny how that is! I have experienced that myself - the more I concern

> myself with securing an income the more difficult it becomes somehow

>

> NB: A good friend of mine, a master gunsmith from Downey, CA, close to

> L.A., Patrick Mathews once told me that: " You don't make money - you

> make customers! " That stuck with me - not to compare patients with

> customers though - I think that would a huge mistake and as such I

> don't

> offer discounted treatments. I do offer people who request it sliding

> scale like arrangements.

>

 

 

 

 

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What I strive to continually remind myself is that development is

vertical and it starts with myself and that CM is a uniquely wonderful

tool to serve this notion - helping us and our patients to unfold our

truest and greatest potentials of continuous development and evolution.

 

Humbly

 

Thomas Sorensen

Acupuncturist, PA, RAB

Denmark

 

Turiya Hill skrev:

>

> What I strive to continually remind myself: is a Way

> of Life...and to just Serve this Medicine. This in term generally

> informs how I conduct my practice .

>

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>

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Beautiful.

 

 

On Jan 19, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Turiya Hill wrote:

 

> What I strive to continually remind myself: is a

> Way of Life...and to just Serve this Medicine. This in term

> generally informs how I conduct my practice .

>

>

>

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HI Z'ev,

This makes me laugh since I spent 6 months at one

point trying to apply modern business practices to my

practice (cost calculations, income averages and

projections, and so on), and my income dropped like

crazy! I've never had such a direct and consistant

signal from the tao regarding money as in those six

months. These days I try to stay healthy and with good

energy as you mentioned, and I thank my stars I can

practice and that I seem to be of service to the

people who visit me, I ask for opportunities I can

handle, and I barely look at my cheques.

 

Hugo

 

--- <zrosenbe wrote:

 

> Thomas,

> This is my experience as well. If I am 'tuned

> in', have good

> health and qi, the patients come. If I am tired,

> run down, out of

> sorts, they do not. Marketing has never worked for

> me, or calling up

> patients to bug them to come, so I've avoided that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Good point, Zev.

 

Anne

-------------- Original message ----------------------

" " <zrosenbe

> There is a downside to this approach. In the past I've worked with

> what in Colorado we called " rainbow clinics " , where there was an M.D.

> who would do the referrals and sign off on insurance papers for the

> other practitioners (chiropractor, acupuncturist, psychologist,

> rolfer, etc.). My experience is that patients became confused by the

> different modalities and often conflicting advice given by different

> practitioners, and that practitioners were often stymied by being

> unable to speak their minds and give their opinions on what they

> considered to be appropriate therapeutics as opposed to overkill (too

> many modalities at the same time).

>

> It also, in my opinion, makes Chinese medicine look like just another

> technique.

>

> I think that any multi-disciplinary clinic needs an overall focus,

> whether biomedical, Chinese, or chiropractic, and a leader(s) who

> establishes the vision of the clinic. For example, there is a

> longevity clinic in Denver that has several practitioners who work

> with an M.D. with a focus on preventative medicine and longevity, he

> has even written a book on the subject. Then other practitioners can

> serve the overall needs of the clinic. If I were to do such a clinic

> again, I would insist on it being based on Chinese medical care

> principles, and that any other modalities would have to conform to

> those principles. Otherwise there is the potential for therapeutic

> chaos.

>

>

> On Jan 19, 2007, at 10:31 AM, Christopher Vedeler L.Ac. wrote:

>

> > " I have teamed up with three MDs, one psychotherapist, one physio

> > therapist, one chiropractor/osteopath and one massage therapist with

> > whom I exchange referrals - works really well. "

> >

> > Thanks Thomas! This is the best way to build your practice. When I

> > started teaming up with other health care practitioners from MD's to

> > Naturopaths, massage therapists to even other acupuncturists my

> > practice

> > started doing much better. I refer to them and they refer to me. The

> > patient wins by getting the best possible care and the

> > practitioners win

> > by treating what they do best.

> >

> > I believe that once you are in practice for a few years, a healthy

> > practice will be at least 50% referral based.

> >

> > Networking with others is the best and healthiest way to build one's

> > practice IMO.

> >

> > Christopher Vedeler L.Ac., C.Ht.

> > Oasis Acupuncture

> > <http://www.oasisacupuncture.com/> http://www.oasisacupuncture.com

> > 9832 N. Hayden Rd.

> > Suite 215

> > Scottsdale, AZ 85258

> > Phone: (480) 991-3650

> >

> >

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