Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Dear all colleague, I often ask myself, we, all of us, are scientists to be or becoming scientists? Yes, we are.. Just ask ourselves questions and seek for answers……. No scientist is born. But it is made by the quest, the urge or the hunger of questions and answers. Science means to know and learn. If we are learning and knowing, we are becoming scientists! What is an encouragement, my dear friends!!!!!!!!!!!!! We all learned every pulse we feel there is illness, there is no exception. Everyone is sick! I do not believe in this theory. I do not care about how famous the author is or was. This sounds impractical and unconvincing to anyone who has superior knowledge. Let's see : We all know what and how we become a living body through a conception and a nourishment of a parent. But how do we define a body is coming to an end or death ? There are million of reasons " illnesses, sickness, accidents… " If we had billions of reasons, then we have difficulties in resolving this issue. I gave myself an answer……….. The body is dead because it has no more energy, only one reason. Its energy has left the body! Then I ask myself : " Why the energy has left the body? " Can I call the energy back, or to come back? If someone is dying then, " Why the energy is trying to leave this body? " Can I keep that energy from leaving? Someone is full of energy, eats properly and exercise daily and suddenly died??? Someone is very ill, very weak but lingering for a long time then recovered ??? Someone caught up with arthritis, diabetes, hepatitis, high blood pressure, or stroke but can never get out of it??? All energy is working within our body making our growth, strength, and our brilliance. When it becomes weak and die, there must be a reason our duty is to find the reason…. But what we are learning was confusing!!!!!!!!!!!!! We learned Yin and Yang and 5 elements. There are at least 112 elements as known………….. Yin or Yang in elements, they are all energy. Without Yin, Yang could not manifest. Without Yang, Yin could not be seen nor existed " if there is no light, how can a material can be seen? It can be seen because of the light no mater how little. " When Yin and Yang are separate, there is no meaning in life, there is no life… Death begins. Yin and Yang must unite to give life. Strong or weak depends on how it travels or how it works in our body. All atoms are in energy form " QI " , they " Qi " gathered in big mass and then manifest in substances. Qi " gases " can be compressed into liquid " Yin, mass, material " , the thicker the denser the more solid it will become. In this case, Qi is creating Yin………… I do not see Yin creating or producing Yang by itself….. A mass " Yin " must be separated or divided in order for its molecule to exert its energy ( from Yin into Yang – must need energy to change its form ). Its division must be depend upon heat , frequencies, electrical , chemicals or…. If there is no Qi, its Yin " material " can not give us energy " Yang " !!!! Does this give you a clue, Qi doing all the jobs?????? If it does, we do not want to be off the track!!!! If Yin and Yang are separate, there is no discussion here. All we want them to gather and stay in our body. A pulse of a healthy person as I define Yin and Yang are in balance " not rush, not slow, no floating, not sinking, not thin, not too big …… and especially no signs nor symptoms " . Because they are well blended, and are behaving fine. We can not see the difference. What is your opinion??? An unhealthy pulse may present : Fast / slow, float / sink , thin/ big, forceful / weak , smooth or irregular or in combination???? No matter what they are. It is the manifestation of Qi… Our problem is to define Yin def or excess??? Why??? Energy is the key of life , the strength or weakness!!! Why are we not looking into the energy but to find out the Yin problem of def/ excess???? STROKE is manifested in Qi irregularity " not function properly, stagnation, deficiency, excess, or it acts / behaves on its way " What makes it behave this way ???? Insteady of analyzing Yin def / excess ??? Qi def / excess??? DIABETES, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE and others ??? Can we confidently base on Qi and how it works so we can give proper treatments? Or we have to find Yin and blood, Jing and Shen??? Is this all that Qi creating Blood, fluids, Jing ??? Is the Qi holding them in our body??? If this is correct, then why our Qi is releasing them, not gathering them and giving them commands what they should do in our body? In my conclusion : Should we look and search for the answers why our Qi is behaving its ways, and find our ways to correct it? Instead of analyzing Liver Yang def/ excess, Ki def / Excess, Heart def/ excess…. It is all Qi. I do not think if we are so thirsty we will look for food, or being so hungry then look for water. Every organ has its energy, even in our nails, hair, skin, smelling, hearing, vision, thought, touch…… We must find out! Ex: if our eyes are weak and becoming dim? Should we first look into its energy and ask why the eye energy is behaving this way????? Instead of blaming its neighbor, the Liver yin / yang def ??? or heat from Stomach, intestines, Kidneys, gall bladder ??? then arriving from its neighbor behaving as of Liver / Gal or Pericardium … or whoever our neighbors are yang / heat or blood def or toxic … I do not know if my thoughts above would help you, but if we are hungry for appropriate questions and answers we will find some amazing and interesting things in Oriental Medicine and Acupuncture… Thanks for all opinions! 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Dear dr_namnguyen58 All animals walk on all fours, exposing back from the tail to the tip of the nose to the haven sun Yang; and sleep on their bellies or their sides. We, humans evolutionary very recently started to walk on two legs. Regarding diseases, death: Qi, Blood, Yin, Yang, Shen Jing, etc do not have any innate intelligence or reasons. By the force of evolution they are locked in the system of a very precarious balance, supporting and controlling each other. With age (I suggest, immediately after birth) system inevitably drifts towards disbalance, chaos to a large and large degree until they cannot support each other any more. Death Peter <dr_namnguyen58 wrote: Dear all colleague, I often ask myself, we, all of us, are scientists to be or becoming scientists? Yes, we are.. Just ask ourselves questions and seek for answers……. No scientist is born. But it is made by the quest, the urge or the hunger of questions and answers. Science means to know and learn. If we are learning and knowing, we are becoming scientists! What is an encouragement, my dear friends!!!!!!!!!!!!! We all learned every pulse we feel there is illness, there is no exception. Everyone is sick! I do not believe in this theory. I do not care about how famous the author is or was. This sounds impractical and unconvincing to anyone who has superior knowledge. Let's see : We all know what and how we become a living body through a conception and a nourishment of a parent. But how do we define a body is coming to an end or death ? There are million of reasons " illnesses, sickness, accidents… " If we had billions of reasons, then we have difficulties in resolving this issue. I gave myself an answer……….. The body is dead because it has no more energy, only one reason. Its energy has left the body! Then I ask myself : " Why the energy has left the body? " Can I call the energy back, or to come back? If someone is dying then, " Why the energy is trying to leave this body? " Can I keep that energy from leaving? Someone is full of energy, eats properly and exercise daily and suddenly died??? Someone is very ill, very weak but lingering for a long time then recovered ??? Someone caught up with arthritis, diabetes, hepatitis, high blood pressure, or stroke but can never get out of it??? All energy is working within our body making our growth, strength, and our brilliance. When it becomes weak and die, there must be a reason our duty is to find the reason…. But what we are learning was confusing!!!!!!!!!!!!! We learned Yin and Yang and 5 elements. There are at least 112 elements as known………….. Yin or Yang in elements, they are all energy. Without Yin, Yang could not manifest. Without Yang, Yin could not be seen nor existed " if there is no light, how can a material can be seen? It can be seen because of the light no mater how little. " When Yin and Yang are separate, there is no meaning in life, there is no life… Death begins. Yin and Yang must unite to give life. Strong or weak depends on how it travels or how it works in our body. All atoms are in energy form " QI " , they " Qi " gathered in big mass and then manifest in substances. Qi " gases " can be compressed into liquid " Yin, mass, material " , the thicker the denser the more solid it will become. In this case, Qi is creating Yin………… I do not see Yin creating or producing Yang by itself….. A mass " Yin " must be separated or divided in order for its molecule to exert its energy ( from Yin into Yang – must need energy to change its form ). Its division must be depend upon heat , frequencies, electrical , chemicals or…. If there is no Qi, its Yin " material " can not give us energy " Yang " !!!! Does this give you a clue, Qi doing all the jobs?????? If it does, we do not want to be off the track!!!! If Yin and Yang are separate, there is no discussion here. All we want them to gather and stay in our body. A pulse of a healthy person as I define Yin and Yang are in balance " not rush, not slow, no floating, not sinking, not thin, not too big …… and especially no signs nor symptoms " . Because they are well blended, and are behaving fine. We can not see the difference. What is your opinion??? An unhealthy pulse may present : Fast / slow, float / sink , thin/ big, forceful / weak , smooth or irregular or in combination???? No matter what they are. It is the manifestation of Qi… Our problem is to define Yin def or excess??? Why??? Energy is the key of life , the strength or weakness!!! Why are we not looking into the energy but to find out the Yin problem of def/ excess???? STROKE is manifested in Qi irregularity " not function properly, stagnation, deficiency, excess, or it acts / behaves on its way " What makes it behave this way ???? Insteady of analyzing Yin def / excess ??? Qi def / excess??? DIABETES, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE and others ??? Can we confidently base on Qi and how it works so we can give proper treatments? Or we have to find Yin and blood, Jing and Shen??? Is this all that Qi creating Blood, fluids, Jing ??? Is the Qi holding them in our body??? If this is correct, then why our Qi is releasing them, not gathering them and giving them commands what they should do in our body? In my conclusion : Should we look and search for the answers why our Qi is behaving its ways, and find our ways to correct it? Instead of analyzing Liver Yang def/ excess, Ki def / Excess, Heart def/ excess…. It is all Qi. I do not think if we are so thirsty we will look for food, or being so hungry then look for water. Every organ has its energy, even in our nails, hair, skin, smelling, hearing, vision, thought, touch…… We must find out! Ex: if our eyes are weak and becoming dim? Should we first look into its energy and ask why the eye energy is behaving this way????? Instead of blaming its neighbor, the Liver yin / yang def ??? or heat from Stomach, intestines, Kidneys, gall bladder ??? then arriving from its neighbor behaving as of Liver / Gal or Pericardium … or whoever our neighbors are yang / heat or blood def or toxic … I do not know if my thoughts above would help you, but if we are hungry for appropriate questions and answers we will find some amazing and interesting things in Oriental Medicine and Acupuncture… Thanks for all opinions! Peter Pavolotsky Tel. (416)453-9004 peter911cm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Hi Peter, I may agree with you on the theory of evolution. However, if things have been changed should we look at the changes and define the changes. I do not think man was animal , nor iron was from dirth or from manganese...... Science is not exact and it can be wrong. The theory upon the evolution , man came from animal, or the aquarians sounds so funny, but it is OK. A mass of iron is different from a mass of mercury because of different compounds of atoms " just like man and animal " . Even though if they are smashed or divided into very small like atoms, electrons, protons and neutrons. They look alike, but they are not the same. Are we diagnosing animals and treating animals or people? Why don't we all have a different look and treat people as people instead of retrospect of man as animal? Do we sleep with belly down? Do we crawl daily? If we are looking and diagnosing the automobiles with the ideas it is the same as the horsedrawn carriers, I do not think it make sense. What about the submarine? airplane ? computer ? Should we base on our wisdom upon the theory of technology and verify the troubles and problems or on a theory of a 4 legs carriers???? Intelligence and reasons are manifested upon Qi, not because of your look, or appearance. therefore we do not refer them with Blood, JIng or shen......... I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Well, they just found Chimps that leaned to make and use tools. Is that evolution? - dr_namnguyen58 Chinese Medicine Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:34 PM Re: Life-energy -diseases and opinions? Hi Peter, I may agree with you on the theory of evolution. However, if things have been changed should we look at the changes and define the changes. I do not think man was animal , nor iron was from dirth or from manganese...... Science is not exact and it can be wrong. The theory upon the evolution , man came from animal, or the aquarians sounds so funny, but it is OK. A mass of iron is different from a mass of mercury because of different compounds of atoms " just like man and animal " . Even though if they are smashed or divided into very small like atoms, electrons, protons and neutrons. They look alike, but they are not the same. Are we diagnosing animals and treating animals or people? Why don't we all have a different look and treat people as people instead of retrospect of man as animal? Do we sleep with belly down? Do we crawl daily? If we are looking and diagnosing the automobiles with the ideas it is the same as the horsedrawn carriers, I do not think it make sense. What about the submarine? airplane ? computer ? Should we base on our wisdom upon the theory of technology and verify the troubles and problems or on a theory of a 4 legs carriers???? Intelligence and reasons are manifested upon Qi, not because of your look, or appearance. therefore we do not refer them with Blood, JIng or shen......... I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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