LV yang deficiency - lung blood

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Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:43:22 0800, " " <johnkokko wrote:

 

>> Lung Blood xu as a pattern that you diagnose

and treat. Could you elaborate on the image and protocol for this?

 

That's a working hypothesis for a condition

involving excessive skin growth / calluses on the

fingertips, (right) thumb and (left) index

fingers, to the extent of frequent cracking and

bleeding; especially in cold weather. It's more a

channel concept (the hand taiyin and paired hand

yangming), and relating to the lung's association

with the skin, than to zangfu. I.e. not blood in the lungs.

 

Also based on the good response to warming and

moving the blood, i.e. hot soaks, and decoctions

to build, move and warm the blood. The case also

has aspects of lung qi insufficiency and (probably secondary to) lung yin xu.

 

It also might be seen as a lung-luo issue, which

I haven't explored yet. (But might, now that it

comes to mind.) The lung-luo, together with

GB-luo, directed distally. (All the other

( " longitudinal " ) luos are directed proximally.)

 

I've never seen the term " lung blood " , though

Jeffery Yuen mentioned it once, as an example of

something which may well be useful in the right

circumstances, despite not being orthodox.

 

Another such example that many here may recall is

Maciocia's consideration of " spleen yin xu " , also

not a standard TCM concept, but one that might

come to mind in light of the kind of flaccid

shrinkage of the flesh often found in, for

instance, diabetics flesh, wasting and

thirsting, cellular metabolism,…; ample spleen associations.

 

 

 

 

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Chris,

Spleen yin xu is also a Chinese medical pattern listed in my

Chinese medical dictionaries, and described in the upcoming

" Pathomechanisms of the Spleen " text from Paradigm Press.

 

It would see to me from our discussions that what we accept as

'standard TCM' patterns is a product of editing, simplifying by

eliminating less common patterns from mainstream use. This doesn't

mean, however, that these patterns do not have use in specific

situations, or don't exist.

 

 

On Feb 28, 2007, at 12:03 AM, wrote:

 

> Another such example that many here may recall is

> Maciocia's consideration of " spleen yin xu " , also

> not a standard TCM concept, but one that might

> come to mind in light of the kind of flaccid

> shrinkage of the flesh often found in, for

> instance, diabetics flesh, wasting and

> thirsting, cellular metabolism,…; ample spleen association