Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Dear Friends, Our esteemed member, Dr. Phil Roger's post about the therapeutic benefit of injecting sub-clinical doses of pharmaceuticals into acupuncture points of veterinary patients brings up a discussion from a couple of years ago. One of the great integrative advances in China has been the use of injecting sterile formulae into acupoints. First of all, what is the legal status in New Mexico as far as injecting procaine, saline or B12 into acupoints? Second, has there been any discussion of training (and obviously lobbying state legislators to allow) DAOMs to inject Chinese medicinals? Anybody know anything? Yehua Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Yehuda, I know of only two states that permit injection therapy in the scope of practice for licensed acupuncturists... Florida and New Mexico. Florida allows " acupoint injection therapy " which it defines as: " ...the injection of herbs, homeopathics, and other nutritional supplements in the form of sterile substances into acupuncture points by means of hypodermic needles but not intravenous therapy to promote, maintain, and restore health; for pain management and palliative care; for acupuncture anesthesia; and to prevent disease. " I'm not aware of any specific training requirements in Florida. New Mexico allows " injection therapy " if the licentiate has obtained an extended or expanded prescriptive authority certification. The substances that may be injected vary according to the type of prescriptive authority the practitioner has obtained. You can find the details at... http://tinyurl.com/3ba5gv There has been no recent effort in California to expand scope to include injection therapy. Regards, Bill -- Bill Mosca, LAc Executive Director California State Oriental Medical Association (CSOMA) 703 Market Street, Suite 250 San Francisco • CA • 94103-2100 [Toll Free Voice]: (800) 477-4564 • [Fax]: (415) 357-1940 : bill • [Website]: csomaonline.org On Apr 26, 2007, at 10:05 AM, yehuda frischman wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Our esteemed member, Dr. Phil Roger's post about the therapeutic > benefit of injecting sub-clinical doses of pharmaceuticals into > acupuncture points of veterinary patients brings up a discussion > from a couple of years ago. One of the great integrative advances > in China has been the use of injecting sterile formulae into > acupoints. First of all, what is the legal status in New Mexico as > far as injecting procaine, saline or B12 into acupoints? Second, > has there been any discussion of training (and obviously lobbying > state legislators to allow) DAOMs to inject Chinese medicinals? > > Anybody know anything? > > Yehua > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Thanks, Bill, But with so many DAOM programs now proliferating particularly here in California (PCOM, Emperors, and now ACTCM, Five Branches and Samra) would that not be a next logical step to have the schools lobby for their Doctors to be able to learn and apply this skill as well? Y Bill Mosca <mosca wrote: Yehuda, I know of only two states that permit injection therapy in the scope of practice for licensed acupuncturists... Florida and New Mexico. Florida allows " acupoint injection therapy " which it defines as: " ...the injection of herbs, homeopathics, and other nutritional supplements in the form of sterile substances into acupuncture points by means of hypodermic needles but not intravenous therapy to promote, maintain, and restore health; for pain management and palliative care; for acupuncture anesthesia; and to prevent disease. " I'm not aware of any specific training requirements in Florida. New Mexico allows " injection therapy " if the licentiate has obtained an extended or expanded prescriptive authority certification. The substances that may be injected vary according to the type of prescriptive authority the practitioner has obtained. You can find the details at... http://tinyurl.com/3ba5gv There has been no recent effort in California to expand scope to include injection therapy. Regards, Bill -- Bill Mosca, LAc Executive Director California State Oriental Medical Association (CSOMA) 703 Market Street, Suite 250 San Francisco • CA • 94103-2100 [Toll Free Voice]: (800) 477-4564 • [Fax]: (415) 357-1940 : bill • [Website]: csomaonline.org On Apr 26, 2007, at 10:05 AM, yehuda frischman wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Our esteemed member, Dr. Phil Roger's post about the therapeutic > benefit of injecting sub-clinical doses of pharmaceuticals into > acupuncture points of veterinary patients brings up a discussion > from a couple of years ago. One of the great integrative advances > in China has been the use of injecting sterile formulae into > acupoints. First of all, what is the legal status in New Mexico as > far as injecting procaine, saline or B12 into acupoints? Second, > has there been any discussion of training (and obviously lobbying > state legislators to allow) DAOMs to inject Chinese medicinals? > > Anybody know anything? > > Yehua > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 There was mention of DAOM's in regards to increasing CA statutes but I did not hear if the same expansion would apply to DOM, OMD or even the PhD's in TCM. Just curious.Mike W. Bowser, L Ac http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Yehuda that is unfortunately wishful thinking. The schools have done nothing but work to limit our scope of practice - yehuda frischman Chinese Medicine Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:34 AM Re: injectables Thanks, Bill, But with so many DAOM programs now proliferating particularly here in California (PCOM, Emperors, and now ACTCM, Five Branches and Samra) would that not be a next logical step to have the schools lobby for their Doctors to be able to learn and apply this skill as well? Y Bill Mosca <mosca wrote: Yehuda, I know of only two states that permit injection therapy in the scope of practice for licensed acupuncturists... Florida and New Mexico. Florida allows " acupoint injection therapy " which it defines as: " ...the injection of herbs, homeopathics, and other nutritional supplements in the form of sterile substances into acupuncture points by means of hypodermic needles but not intravenous therapy to promote, maintain, and restore health; for pain management and palliative care; for acupuncture anesthesia; and to prevent disease. " I'm not aware of any specific training requirements in Florida. New Mexico allows " injection therapy " if the licentiate has obtained an extended or expanded prescriptive authority certification. The substances that may be injected vary according to the type of prescriptive authority the practitioner has obtained. You can find the details at... http://tinyurl.com/3ba5gv There has been no recent effort in California to expand scope to include injection therapy. Regards, Bill -- Bill Mosca, LAc Executive Director California State Oriental Medical Association (CSOMA) 703 Market Street, Suite 250 San Francisco . CA . 94103-2100 [Toll Free Voice]: (800) 477-4564 . [Fax]: (415) 357-1940 : bill . [Website]: csomaonline.org On Apr 26, 2007, at 10:05 AM, yehuda frischman wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Our esteemed member, Dr. Phil Roger's post about the therapeutic > benefit of injecting sub-clinical doses of pharmaceuticals into > acupuncture points of veterinary patients brings up a discussion > from a couple of years ago. One of the great integrative advances > in China has been the use of injecting sterile formulae into > acupoints. First of all, what is the legal status in New Mexico as > far as injecting procaine, saline or B12 into acupoints? Second, > has there been any discussion of training (and obviously lobbying > state legislators to allow) DAOMs to inject Chinese medicinals? > > Anybody know anything? > > Yehua > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 We do have to be certified to do acupoint injection therapies. >Florida allows " acupoint injection therapy " which it defines as: " ...the injection of herbs, homeopathics, and other nutritional supplements in the form of sterile substances into acupuncture points by means of hypodermic needles but not intravenous therapy to promote, maintain, and restore health; for pain management and palliative care; for acupuncture anesthesia; and to prevent disease. " I'm not aware of any specific training requirements in Florida. Lee Tritt, AP, OMD, Dipl. Ac.(NCCAOM) 321-961-6432 A LITTLE " NEEDLING " NEVER HURT ANYONE Chinese Medicine Chinese MedicineOn Behalf Of Alon Marcus Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:15 PM Chinese Medicine Re: injectables Yehuda that is unfortunately wishful thinking. The schools have done nothing but work to limit our scope of practice - yehuda frischman Chinese Medicine Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:34 AM Re: injectables Thanks, Bill, But with so many DAOM programs now proliferating particularly here in California (PCOM, Emperors, and now ACTCM, Five Branches and Samra) would that not be a next logical step to have the schools lobby for their Doctors to be able to learn and apply this skill as well? Y Bill Mosca <mosca wrote: Yehuda, I know of only two states that permit injection therapy in the scope of practice for licensed acupuncturists... Florida and New Mexico. Florida allows " acupoint injection therapy " which it defines as: " ...the injection of herbs, homeopathics, and other nutritional supplements in the form of sterile substances into acupuncture points by means of hypodermic needles but not intravenous therapy to promote, maintain, and restore health; for pain management and palliative care; for acupuncture anesthesia; and to prevent disease. " I'm not aware of any specific training requirements in Florida. New Mexico allows " injection therapy " if the licentiate has obtained an extended or expanded prescriptive authority certification. The substances that may be injected vary according to the type of prescriptive authority the practitioner has obtained. You can find the details at... http://tinyurl.com/3ba5gv There has been no recent effort in California to expand scope to include injection therapy. Regards, Bill -- Bill Mosca, LAc Executive Director California State Oriental Medical Association (CSOMA) 703 Market Street, Suite 250 San Francisco . CA . 94103-2100 [Toll Free Voice]: (800) 477-4564 . [Fax]: (415) 357-1940 : bill . [Website]: csomaonline.org On Apr 26, 2007, at 10:05 AM, yehuda frischman wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Our esteemed member, Dr. Phil Roger's post about the therapeutic > benefit of injecting sub-clinical doses of pharmaceuticals into > acupuncture points of veterinary patients brings up a discussion > from a couple of years ago. One of the great integrative advances > in China has been the use of injecting sterile formulae into > acupoints. First of all, what is the legal status in New Mexico as > far as injecting procaine, saline or B12 into acupoints? Second, > has there been any discussion of training (and obviously lobbying > state legislators to allow) DAOMs to inject Chinese medicinals? > > Anybody know anything? > > Yehua > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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