Guest guest Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 It is obvious that you are quite emotional, or better, quite adament about the " French connection being responsible for a lot of crap " ...so I hope I can still ask this question without getting blasted...and get a response... When you say " French essential oil and cosmetics trade " , it seems you are lumping the two together. I agree, I would trust the French cosmetic industry about as much as..., well, basically, not at all. However, there are some essential oil suppliers in France, and I am wondering whether you trust none of them. I have heard that the French essential oil industry was tied into sects (! I had no precision about which ones), but that it was being cleaned up, and was well on its way to trustworthiness. Of course this is interesting to me because I live here and use the locally available oils in most cases (personal use only). When was this court case? I mean is it a recent distrust? Or is it based on the situation several years ago? Thanks in advance for any further information Anne > Tue, 25 May 2004 11:10:29 -0000 > " aromamedical2003 " <aromamedical-2 > Re: French Research (was RE: Co-op - Monoï de Tahiti) > > I distrust just about anything that comes out of the French essential > oil and cosmetics trade. They are the worlds biggest adulterators of > essential oils. Their cosmetics trade are packed to bursting with > unjustified so called " clinical research " ie. use our magic new face > cream and it will make you 5 years younger backed by our clinical > research! I even distrust some of the smaller oil producers knowing > what I do about the way they fiddle their oils. A friend here tried > suing one lavender farmer/distiller and got nowhere because the > French courts are geared to protecting their own Nationals only. .... > The French connection is what is responsible for a vast amount of > crap that has become endemic in aromatherapy over the years and is > responsible for corrupting a wonderful therapy and the minds of its > practitioners. > > Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Hi Anne, Our Martin is definitely, as you put it, " quite emotional, or better, quite adamant " , but those who know him like I do know that he's really just a big teddy bear, he just hates to see folks misled ... Martin puts a lot of time and effort into learning all he does and is very generous in sharing his wisdom, and I know he'll be able to answer your question without blasting ya Anne *Smile* Chris (list mom) New Item: Handmade Mulberry Paper Available In Many Beautiful Colors! <http://www.alittleolfactory.com/> http://www.alittleolfactory.com abccharlet [abccharlet] It is obvious that you are quite emotional, or better, quite adament about the " French connection being responsible for a lot of crap " ...so I hope I can still ask this question without getting blasted...and get a response... <snipped> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 >However, there are some essential oil suppliers in France< Yes, there are a few genuine grower/distillers there. The huge problem is knowing who can be trusted and who can't. I happen to have had inside knowledge of some of these people and I know several of them lie constantly about the quality of their oils. I know some do produce maybe 6-10 oils from locally gathered materials, but sell maybe 50 oils (plus) that they buy in from trade sources but sell them as if they are their own and organically certified of course!! Anyone who claims *all* their oils are organically produced should sound alarm bells in the buyers head. As I said yesterday, I know someone who got caught by a French farmer about 4 years ago. That farmer swore blind his lavandin oil came from his farm. This guy saw it produced; stocked it for years and speaks the language like a native. One year he was suspicious, had the oil analysed here by an expert and it contained synthetic linalool. The farmer had run out and simply bought in oil from normal trade sources. He had to drop the case because of the French legal system putting up so many obstacles against a none National sueing a French national that it would have cost a fortune and taken years to get this farmer into court. I know other people who have visited distillation co-ops where perfectly good lavender was going in the front door. One guy was a fragrance chemist and looked in the backyard where he found barrels of ho leaf oil and the chemical that turns the linalool into linalyl acetate. So don't think if you visit these places that what you get in that bottle is what you see being produced. The French have known of the distrust of their oils by the big International oil dealers for a hundred years plus, but as long as these people can sell their products to small trades such as aromatherapy nothing will happen. Martin , abccharlet@n... wrote: > It is obvious that you are quite emotional, or better, quite adament about > the " French connection being responsible for a lot of crap " ...so I hope I > can still ask this question without getting blasted...and get a > response... > > When you say " French essential oil and cosmetics trade " , it seems you are > lumping the two together. I agree, I would trust the French cosmetic > industry about as much as..., well, basically, not at all. > > However, there are some essential oil suppliers in France, and I am > wondering whether you trust none of them. I have heard that the French > essential oil industry was tied into sects (! I had no precision about > which ones), but that it was being cleaned up, and was well on its way to > trustworthiness. > > Of course this is interesting to me because I live here and use the > locally available oils in most cases (personal use only). > > When was this court case? I mean is it a recent distrust? Or is it based > on the situation several years ago? > > Thanks in advance for any further information > Anne > > Tue, 25 May 2004 11:10:29 -0000 > > " aromamedical2003 " <aromamedical-2@l...> > > Re: French Research (was RE: Co-op - Monoï de Tahiti) > > > > I distrust just about anything that comes out of the French essential > > oil and cosmetics trade. They are the worlds biggest adulterators of > > essential oils. Their cosmetics trade are packed to bursting with > > unjustified so called " clinical research " ie. use our magic new face > > cream and it will make you 5 years younger backed by our clinical > > research! I even distrust some of the smaller oil producers knowing > > what I do about the way they fiddle their oils. A friend here tried > > suing one lavender farmer/distiller and got nowhere because the > > French courts are geared to protecting their own Nationals only. > ... > > > The French connection is what is responsible for a vast amount of > > crap that has become endemic in aromatherapy over the years and is > > responsible for corrupting a wonderful therapy and the minds of its > > practitioners. > > > > Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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