Digest Number 1436 - pain killing oils

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Afternoon all,

 

I'll first comment on Marge's email.

 

I have had a husband die of leukemia and I know from his experience before his

death that the pain was excrutiating. Those days the strongest painkiller the

hospital would give him was pethedine - didn't work. Now the hospices are using

morphine (now that the politicians are sure that becoming addicted to morphine

is rather a pointless problem when you are dying anyway). In many cases (I

believe as I am not on the trial group) the morphine is not working effectively.

However, even when one is dying one should be able to have the dignity of living

out ones last few days/hours without pain. This is where the Aust Sandalwood

and Kunzia seem to be effective. They are still working out percentages,

although it is the synergy that seems to be its strength.

 

As you say, Marge, if it is giving people relatively a pain-free time, safety

might not necessarily be an issue. However, we are talking about doctors,

nurses, patients and their families. There is always someone who might consider

litigation.

 

Marge Clark <marge

Re:pain relief

 

At 06:36 AM 6/6/2004, you wrote:

>Clearly they have not been told that Australian sandalwood comes from

>a none sustainable source of trees, nor that no one has a clue on the

>safety of Kunzia oil.

 

I don't know about Australia, but in the States people are not accepted for

hospice care until they are expected to have less than six months to

live...usually much less than that.

 

somehow I think the long term safety of a pain reliever is a low priority

under those circumstances.

 

Martin, good afternoon,

 

My, I do seem to have trodden on a pet corn. My apologies! I always dislike

discourteous behaviour so I have obviously done something to generate

discourtesy from you. I am not used to rudeness in any of the groups to which I

belong so am a little taken aback.

 

You disagree with what I say and then denigrate it. You have NO background

knowlege on my comments although you have a wealth more of experience, but not

of courtesy.

 

Aust Sandalwood is grown commercially in farms/plantations, I believe both in

Western Australia and in the Northern Territory (or is it Queensland?) By my

definition that makes it a sustainable industry. The Sandalwood is grown next

to a variety of acacia (as we know Sandalwood is parasitic). The chemical

composition is readily known and Mount Romance process' a lot of the oil.

 

What makes you say that Kunzia is untested or untried or unverified. Is it

because you have not done so? Why put down people the way you have tried to put

me down because we don't necessarily agree with your pronouncements? That is

such bad manners and probably unworthy of you.

 

My personal experience of the two oils are as follows: I use my balm with

nearly all my clients particularly when they have very sore muscles. I am an

Aromatherapist, but also a Massage Therapist. Once on my table my clients are

asked where there is pain and I LIGHTLY rub on the balm. Then I start my

massage. By the time I get to the sore area I ask at what level the pain is.

It is frequently no longer apparent. I have clients who use it as a headache or

migraine relief (it does depend on the migraine as I refuse to admit to

relieving food or alcohol induced migraines). In fact, I use if on myself.

 

It was other Aromatherapy colleagues who reminded me to use Kunzia as they had

had extremely good results using straight kunzia. The synergy between the two

oils is extremely strong.

 

Martin, why should what I say be an urban myth? Shouldn't you, as an

experienced Aromatherapist, ask for contacts to verify my comments or are you

not prepared to find out that your intemperate comments are false?

 

I cannot give you all the details on how the oil combination is being used as it

is not currently available. In anycase I am not involved in the trials. May I

say (even though you appear to consider the people doing the trials are

charletans) that the people involved are highly respected and hugely

knowledgable. I will be passing on your comments to them and if they think it

is worth while they might feel inclined to reply to you direct.

 

Martin, with all your claims to knowlege you are quite capable of researching

the information yourself. As you are attempting to denigrate my comments I feel

that I have no need to do your work for you.

 

My apologies to those you feel that I have been intemperate. I am not usually

so, I would like to bring to your attention a terrific magazine brought out in

Sydney called " Aromatherapy Today " the website is:

www.aromatherapytoday.com

 

The articles are well researched

 

 

 

Message: 7

Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:20:29 -0000

" aromamedical2003 "

Re: Digest Number 1431 - Pain killer

 

>An oil combination that is being trialed in the Sydney region in

>some hospices

This information is next to useless. Without knowing what is being

used, how and under what conditions it is just typical aromatherapy

urban rumour. In addition, the fact it is used in a hospice should

not be taken to mean it has medical approval. Is the hospice

privately run? Who is advising them on the trial and methods to be

used? Perhaps it is one of the authors of those popular novels who

is unable to distinguish between the traditional use of the herb and

the use of the same plants unknown, unverified, safety untested

essential oil!

 

Clearly they have not been told that Australian sandalwood comes from

a none sustainable source of trees, nor that no one has a clue on the

safety of Kunzia oil. It's just amazing how such urban rumours grab

the minds of most people in this trade. So Merinda please give us

some facts to work with if you have them.

 

Martin Watt

http://www.aromamedical.com

 

, Merinda

wrote:

> Morning all,

>

> An oil combination that is being trialed in the Sydney region in

some hospices is a combination of Aust Sandalwood and Kunzia. It

doesn't seem to matter what proportion is used (Kunzia is cheaper)

the synergy is brilliant and is being used when morphine no longer

works. The trials aren't complete as yet.

>

> I use both oils (and a few others) in a balm range I call

thylacine. Work it through and you will understand the name.

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> Regards

> Merinda

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