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Hello, Butch and All,

 

I, too, received that email. I know of people whom bought that

spikenard (no one mentioned whether or not they got a chance to actually

see Jesus or even Mary M.). So, this morning when I got the email, I

went looking for the sense of knowing. I found enough religious sites

for me to change my search to something that I have not seen, which was

the frankincense hydrosol (I regularly use the essential oil and

resins). I came up with a couple of sites that offered it, one of which

has been on the idma list at least as long as I have. None of the sites

I looked at specified if the " frankincense hydrosol " was a floral water

(eo blended into water) or a true hydrosol/distillate (steam

distillation leftover). I only spent about 45 minutes looking - so

there may be more info out there. But I must admit, I do have an

interest in a true frankincense hydrosol - Butch, maybe you may know

something....

 

back to lurking

j

 

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> Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:22:05 -0700

> Butch Owen <butchbsi

>OT: Using Religion to Fleece the Lambs ** Gary Young ** You Got

Competition

>

>Hi y'all,

>

>I spent 30 years of my life in uniform .. 20 of them in military law

>enforcement, often having to deal with folks who couldn't get it all

>together in their minds and their lives, so I should not be surprised at

>anything I see spewing forth from the devious minds of men .. but still

>I am .. sometimes. The following is a mystery to me .. maybe it should

>not be .. the Islamic Fundamentalist Suicide Bombers are not a mystery.

>I understand the how and why they came to be what they are .. but the

>below is not a propaganda scheme directed at weak minded extremists who

>are willing to trade today for a promise of a better tomorrow .. it

>appears to be directed at the folks we run across in our daily lives.

>

>Many of you will remember the Spikenard - Mary Magdalene Experiment.

>

>This is Part II of that scam.

>

>There is an organization .. called the Emissary Of Light ..

>http://www.emissaryoflight.com/

>>

>

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Thank you Butch for this very enlightening information. I've been receiving info

from James Twyman for a long time about his Indigo children's programs/project

and they never made much since to me. NOW it does.

 

Thanks again for is important info.

Namaste,

Rita

 

Butch Owen <butchbsi wrote:

Hi y'all,

 

I spent 30 years of my life in uniform .. 20 of them in military law

enforcement, often having to deal with folks who couldn't get it all

together in their minds and their lives, so I should not be surprised at

anything I see spewing forth from the devious minds of men .. but still

I am .. sometimes. The following is a mystery to me .. maybe it should

not be .. the Islamic Fundamentalist Suicide Bombers are not a mystery.

I understand the how and why they came to be what they are .. but the

below is not a propaganda scheme directed at weak minded extremists who

are willing to trade today for a promise of a better tomorrow .. it

appears to be directed at the folks we run across in our daily lives.

 

Many of you will remember the Spikenard - Mary Magdalene Experiment.

 

This is Part II of that scam.

 

There is an organization .. called the Emissary Of Light ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/

 

Run by a man .. his name is Albert James Twyman ...

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=aboutjames & t_s=14

 

Twyman has a following .. in the Emissary of Light ...

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=belovedcommunity & t_s=12

 

He has a seminary program ..

https://secure03.serverlogic.com/belovedcommunity/PersonalProfile_Login_Seminary\

..aspx?a=a & t_s=19 & redirectURL=%2fSeminary.aspx%3ft_s%3d19

 

He even collects donations for his work ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=donation & t_s=22

 

He has an on line store .. selling this and that ..

https://secure03.serverlogic.com/emissaryoflight/?t_s=21

 

He says he will open a Children's Home in Iraq .. and a Peace Center in

Israel .. and he has peddled Spikenard ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/P_.aspx?content=specialprojects & t_s=17

 

This Spikenard Experiment was designed as a Research Project ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=generalinfospikenard

 

They sold this " precious " Spikenard in 12 ml bottles for $45 ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=spikenardexperiment & t_s=18

 

Then did a survey to see how many folks met Jesus after using it ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/survey/ResultsOverview.asp?SurveyID=100

 

He makes many prophecies .. and on 12 December 2012 there will be a

Great Time Shift .. no mention of Space Ships, etc..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/P_.aspx?content=recentemails & t_t=10#msg_9

 

He offers prayers in the context of twelve religions ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=peaceprayers & t_t=6

 

He comes across as an energetic, religious man who has a following and

lots of irons in the fire at the same time .. and he appears to have a

large organization.

 

After the success of the Spikenard Experiment .. he offers Three More

Gifts .. for only $39.00 one can get these Free Gifts consisting of a 5

ml bottle of Frankincense .. a 1 oz bottle of Frankincense Hydrosol and

some Frankincense Resin .. and instructions on how to use it ..

https://secure03.serverlogic.com/emissaryoflight/Default.aspx?CategoryID=10

 

This is not your every day run of the mill Frankincense. Twyman goes

on to explain ....

 

Beloved Friends,

 

I'm writing this personal letter to you because you expressed interest

in the " Three Gift Program, " beginning with the Frankincense kit. We

will soon announce the launch of this project to everyone on the Beloved

Community e-mail list, but we wanted to give you advance notice for

placing early orders. The Frankincense kits are ready to be shipped, and

we have a limited amount of the oil, hydrosol, and resins.

 

THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO USE THE ESSENSE OF THE FRANKINCENSE,

TO AWAKEN THE CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS WITHIN YOU. Our first project, " The

Mary Magdalene Experiment, " awakened the Divine Feminine energy,

while Frankincense represents the balance between the masculine and

feminine energies.

 

I have been working with the Frankincense for a few months now, and it

has been even more powerful than what I experienced through the

Spikenard. As you already know, this was the first gift given to Jesus

by the Magi when he was born, and at that time Frankincense was more

precious than gold. It was, in fact, one of the most expensive

substances on earth because the plant's subtle and esoteric qualities

were very well known. Today much of that knowledge has been lost, and

through this project we hope to regain so much.

 

Your help and participation will be very valuable.

 

We have prepared kits that present the Frankincense in three different

forms:

 

1. 5 ml bottle of pure Frankincense essential oil

2. 1 oz bottle of Frankincense hydrosol (water soluble)

3. package of Frankincense resins for incense

 

All three have been prepared by our friend Jack from Sense of Knowing on

Maui, perhaps the finest and most sought after distiller in the world.

 

He believes that the soul of the plant is retained through a special,

slow form distillation process, and it is this aspect of the plant that

inspires the human soul.

 

His suggestion is that we approach the oil as if it was a person, asking

it how we are to best blend our energy with its own. A cooperative

process is then created between you and the plant's soul, and the

results are profound.

 

You will be the first group to have access to the Frankincense kit. We

will alert the others who participated in the " Mary Magdalene

Experiment " in about a week, after we've shipped your order. You will

also have the opportunity to report the results of your own

experimentation, just as you did with the Spikenard. Together we will

learn and experience so much.

 

Simply go to the online store at www.emissaryoflight.com or go to this

link

https://secure03.serverlogic.com/emissaryoflight/Default.aspx?CategoryID=10

to make your purchase.

 

The kits have already been packaged, so you'll have yours within a week

or so.

 

Peace,

James

 

Is this organization in competition with Young Living? Or a branch of

Young Living operating in harmony and collaboration with YL?

 

Any of you folks know?

 

I tried to track down this Jack, from Sense of Knowing on Maui because

wanted to understand how a such a world-famous distiller on the Island

of Maui would have ready access to Spikenard and Frankincense aromatic

raw materials.

 

I found only ... which I think is not Jack ..

Sense of Knowing http://www.drbarrytaylor.com/about_barry_taylor.htm

 

I searched Maui and Maui Essential Oils .. all I found was a listing of

Young Living Events .. many by David Stewart and Gary Young .. and one

on Maui by Gary Young. Interesting that YL members pay for entrance but

the non-members get in free.

http://www.youngliving.us/rs_frn_rwp_site.asp?REFERRER= & TARGET=scheduleofevents.\

html & SIDE_MENU=1

 

And this one deserves special mention .. they've been around since 1986,

which according to them was long before the term " aromatherapy " was even

known in the United States .. http://www.aromatherapy-center.com/

 

And this one that claims they blend EO in alignment with the intentions

of the oil so all the vibrational gifts are released as one breaths in

http://www.sacred-alchemy.net/oils-silver.htm

 

But I was not able to locate Jack of Sense of Knowing on Maui. Do any

of you good folks know anything about this? Who is Jack?

 

I understand why Aromatherapy will NEVER be seen as legitimate and I

wonder why I and hundreds of other folks bust butt TRYING to pass along

good information in an industry that legally thrives on HYPE and

MISINFORMATION, preys on the UNKNOWING and seems to be very successful

in their efforts.

 

Dealing in Essential Oils is the only occupation I have ever been in

where there were no standards of conduct or quality .. and where I felt

I was not accomplishing a lot. And now, more and more each day I find

less pride in my efforts due to occupational association with those who

legally use the business as a means of ripping off the public. I think

I am wasting my time .. its likely that the other honest folks in this

business are doing the same!

 

The Good Guys are NOT going to win in this rat race .. why?

 

Because like soldiers of civilized Nations, we do our best to play by

the rules .. but the others make up the rules as they go along .. to fit

their own desires.

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-( Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Wow Butch!

I never thought that you would say this! Are you having a bad day?

I don't believe you or anyone else is wasting their time.

 

Last night, I was talking to my aunt about the our military in Iraq

and other countries. She said that maybe the U.S. should get out of

other countries and quit pissing off terrorists. Otherwise, Americans

are going to keep getting killed.

I thought about this for a moment and came to the conclusion that

no matter how I feel about war, Iraq, and terrorists, and that it may

seem like a losing battle, doing something is better than nothing. If we

did nothing, terrorism could be a MUCH larger problem than it is

presently.

 

Have you ever stopped and thought about how many people you

have educated about YL and At in general?

6 years ago when I joined idma, I had never even heard of YL. But thanks

to you and other list members, I was able to learn about this group

and when YL came to my area I gave info to many business' who then

decided not to carry their oils.

Hopefully, many of those people also have spread the info I gave them.

If GY did not have many of us trying to set the record straight, he might

be much more popular than he is now.

Please don't give up in this rat race! You are surely not alone.

Laura

 

> Dealing in Essential Oils is the only occupation I have ever been

> in

> where there were no standards of conduct or quality .. and where I

> felt

> I was not accomplishing a lot. And now, more and more each day I

> find

> less pride in my efforts due to occupational association with those

> who

> legally use the business as a means of ripping off the public. I

> think

> I am wasting my time .. its likely that the other honest folks in

> this

> business are doing the same!

>

> The Good Guys are NOT going to win in this rat race .. why?

>

> Because like soldiers of civilized Nations, we do our best to play

> by

> the rules .. but the others make up the rules as they go along .. to

> fit

> their own desires.

>

> Y'all keep smiling. :-( Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

>

>

 

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Hi y'all,

 

I spent 30 years of my life in uniform .. 20 of them in military law

enforcement, often having to deal with folks who couldn't get it all

together in their minds and their lives, so I should not be surprised at

anything I see spewing forth from the devious minds of men .. but still

I am .. sometimes. The following is a mystery to me .. maybe it should

not be .. the Islamic Fundamentalist Suicide Bombers are not a mystery.

I understand the how and why they came to be what they are .. but the

below is not a propaganda scheme directed at weak minded extremists who

are willing to trade today for a promise of a better tomorrow .. it

appears to be directed at the folks we run across in our daily lives.

 

Many of you will remember the Spikenard - Mary Magdalene Experiment.

 

This is Part II of that scam.

 

There is an organization .. called the Emissary Of Light ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/

 

Run by a man .. his name is Albert James Twyman ...

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=aboutjames & t_s=14

 

Twyman has a following .. in the Emissary of Light ...

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=belovedcommunity & t_s=12

 

He has a seminary program ..

https://secure03.serverlogic.com/belovedcommunity/PersonalProfile_Login_Seminary\

..aspx?a=a & t_s=19 & redirectURL=%2fSeminary.aspx%3ft_s%3d19

 

He even collects donations for his work ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=donation & t_s=22

 

He has an on line store .. selling this and that ..

https://secure03.serverlogic.com/emissaryoflight/?t_s=21

 

He says he will open a Children's Home in Iraq .. and a Peace Center in

Israel .. and he has peddled Spikenard ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/P_.aspx?content=specialprojects & t_s=17

 

This Spikenard Experiment was designed as a Research Project ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=generalinfospikenard

 

They sold this " precious " Spikenard in 12 ml bottles for $45 ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=spikenardexperiment & t_s=18

 

Then did a survey to see how many folks met Jesus after using it ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/survey/ResultsOverview.asp?SurveyID=100

 

He makes many prophecies .. and on 12 December 2012 there will be a

Great Time Shift .. no mention of Space Ships, etc..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/P_.aspx?content=recentemails & t_t=10#msg_9

 

He offers prayers in the context of twelve religions ..

http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=peaceprayers & t_t=6

 

He comes across as an energetic, religious man who has a following and

lots of irons in the fire at the same time .. and he appears to have a

large organization.

 

After the success of the Spikenard Experiment .. he offers Three More

Gifts .. for only $39.00 one can get these Free Gifts consisting of a 5

ml bottle of Frankincense .. a 1 oz bottle of Frankincense Hydrosol and

some Frankincense Resin .. and instructions on how to use it ..

https://secure03.serverlogic.com/emissaryoflight/Default.aspx?CategoryID=10

 

This is not your every day run of the mill Frankincense. Twyman goes

on to explain ....

 

Beloved Friends,

 

I'm writing this personal letter to you because you expressed interest

in the " Three Gift Program, " beginning with the Frankincense kit. We

will soon announce the launch of this project to everyone on the Beloved

Community e-mail list, but we wanted to give you advance notice for

placing early orders. The Frankincense kits are ready to be shipped, and

we have a limited amount of the oil, hydrosol, and resins.

 

THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO USE THE ESSENSE OF THE FRANKINCENSE,

TO AWAKEN THE CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS WITHIN YOU. Our first project, " The

Mary Magdalene Experiment, " awakened the Divine Feminine energy,

while Frankincense represents the balance between the masculine and

feminine energies.

 

I have been working with the Frankincense for a few months now, and it

has been even more powerful than what I experienced through the

Spikenard. As you already know, this was the first gift given to Jesus

by the Magi when he was born, and at that time Frankincense was more

precious than gold. It was, in fact, one of the most expensive

substances on earth because the plant's subtle and esoteric qualities

were very well known. Today much of that knowledge has been lost, and

through this project we hope to regain so much.

 

Your help and participation will be very valuable.

 

We have prepared kits that present the Frankincense in three different

forms:

 

1. 5 ml bottle of pure Frankincense essential oil

2. 1 oz bottle of Frankincense hydrosol (water soluble)

3. package of Frankincense resins for incense

 

All three have been prepared by our friend Jack from Sense of Knowing on

Maui, perhaps the finest and most sought after distiller in the world.

 

He believes that the soul of the plant is retained through a special,

slow form distillation process, and it is this aspect of the plant that

inspires the human soul.

 

His suggestion is that we approach the oil as if it was a person, asking

it how we are to best blend our energy with its own. A cooperative

process is then created between you and the plant's soul, and the

results are profound.

 

You will be the first group to have access to the Frankincense kit. We

will alert the others who participated in the " Mary Magdalene

Experiment " in about a week, after we've shipped your order. You will

also have the opportunity to report the results of your own

experimentation, just as you did with the Spikenard. Together we will

learn and experience so much.

 

Simply go to the online store at www.emissaryoflight.com or go to this

link

https://secure03.serverlogic.com/emissaryoflight/Default.aspx?CategoryID=10

to make your purchase.

 

The kits have already been packaged, so you'll have yours within a week

or so.

 

Peace,

James

 

Is this organization in competition with Young Living? Or a branch of

Young Living operating in harmony and collaboration with YL?

 

Any of you folks know?

 

I tried to track down this Jack, from Sense of Knowing on Maui because

wanted to understand how a such a world-famous distiller on the Island

of Maui would have ready access to Spikenard and Frankincense aromatic

raw materials.

 

I found only ... which I think is not Jack ..

Sense of Knowing http://www.drbarrytaylor.com/about_barry_taylor.htm

 

I searched Maui and Maui Essential Oils .. all I found was a listing of

Young Living Events .. many by David Stewart and Gary Young .. and one

on Maui by Gary Young. Interesting that YL members pay for entrance but

the non-members get in free.

http://www.youngliving.us/rs_frn_rwp_site.asp?REFERRER= & TARGET=scheduleofevents.\

html & SIDE_MENU=1

 

And this one deserves special mention .. they've been around since 1986,

which according to them was long before the term " aromatherapy " was even

known in the United States .. http://www.aromatherapy-center.com/

 

And this one that claims they blend EO in alignment with the intentions

of the oil so all the vibrational gifts are released as one breaths in

http://www.sacred-alchemy.net/oils-silver.htm

 

But I was not able to locate Jack of Sense of Knowing on Maui. Do any

of you good folks know anything about this? Who is Jack?

 

I understand why Aromatherapy will NEVER be seen as legitimate and I

wonder why I and hundreds of other folks bust butt TRYING to pass along

good information in an industry that legally thrives on HYPE and

MISINFORMATION, preys on the UNKNOWING and seems to be very successful

in their efforts.

 

Dealing in Essential Oils is the only occupation I have ever been in

where there were no standards of conduct or quality .. and where I felt

I was not accomplishing a lot. And now, more and more each day I find

less pride in my efforts due to occupational association with those who

legally use the business as a means of ripping off the public. I think

I am wasting my time .. its likely that the other honest folks in this

business are doing the same!

 

The Good Guys are NOT going to win in this rat race .. why?

 

Because like soldiers of civilized Nations, we do our best to play by

the rules .. but the others make up the rules as they go along .. to fit

their own desires.

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-( Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

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Hi Butch,

>

> Many of you will remember the Spikenard - Mary Magdalene Experiment.

>

Just a side note about the Mary Magdalene Experiment - if you

purchased your Spikenard from someone other than his source, you were

not, I repeat, NOT included in the experiment!

 

Buffy

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Butch, I don't think you have to worry about the amount of " innocent " public

that Twyman is convincing to buy his oil. There are quite a few, granted,

but they are not using his oils in an aromatheraputic (did I just make up a

word??) manner, and most probably don't understand aromatherapy to begin

with. His followers are buying his spikenard and frankincense (with the

gold and myrrh to follow) because they believe in Twyman's special children,

and are using these oils of his in meditations kind of governed by his site.

I have no idea where he actually gets his oils, and doubt that the people

buying these " special " oils of his are doing so for any other reason than

his " psychic experiments " . The information you freely pass on is NEVER

overlooked by people who are truly interested in the real uses for true

essential oils. We appreciate your efforts and understand the difference in

well, I hate to say schemes because I think Twyman actually believes in

what he does (who knows--maybe not?) and real information, like yours and

other professional aromatherapists. Anyone who researches essential oils

for any length of time learns to discriminate.

 

samala

Renee

 

 

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Dealing in Essential Oils is the only occupation I have ever been in

where there were no standards of conduct or quality .. and where I felt

I was not accomplishing a lot. And now, more and more each day I find

less pride in my efforts due to occupational association with those who

legally use the business as a means of ripping off the public. I think

I am wasting my time .. its likely that the other honest folks in this

business are doing the same!

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, Butch Owen <butchbsi@s...>

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> Hi y'all,

>

 

>

> Many of you will remember the Spikenard - Mary Magdalene Experiment.

>

>Hi Butch,

 

Thought you might like to know that the people who purchased their

Spikenard from someone other than this organization were not, I

repeat NOT allowed to be part of that experiment.

 

Buffy

 

PS I posted this earlier - got lost in that vast space of or www

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