Happy Birthday America - reply to Butch's post

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Martin Sheen does get a bit confused at times .. isn't he the one with

drugs are working on his mind .. maybe I confused him with someone else.

But he is certainly not likely to make any pro-American statements

since he gets his butt locked up from time to time for breaking laws

when he is into his " activist " role. If we don't have laws then we have

chaos. Another story. Butch >>

 

Butch,

Martin Sheen has a son who is known to dabble in drugs. He is clean.

Makes a fine President Bartlett on TV

Dr. Helen Caldicott, a physician, started a group, many years ago, that's called

Physicians for nuclear Responsibility.

She is no kumbaya singing, save the world, treehugger*, but a very serious

Scientist and physician.

The first one who openly talked about the dangers of law level radiation.

Another one of my favorite women is Dr. Rosalie Bertell, a nuclear scientist and

a nun.

She was hired by the American Cancer Society to get to the bottom of nuclear

emissions of low level radiation

around nuclear plants and when she found there was a substantial risk in regards

to low birthweight, miscarriages

and certain cancers, they cut her funding.

A very sweet little old lady and I felt honored to stand in a prayer circle with

her.

C-M, * proud to be called a treehugger

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Hey Vicki,

 

> Hi JenB

> WOW!

>

> Thank you for sharing that with us:-))

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>>Mind if I debate with you a little on this point? :-P

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>>To say Washington was a " pious man, " well, we might need to define

>>what " pious " is.

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> You've put a great deal of effort into this post so I hope you managed to

> enjoy at least some of your holiday!

>

> It sure puts a different spin on what many people would have us believe:-))

 

For sure it put a different spin on the subject .. but I'm not sure that

Jen or you really understand what my point was .. or why I made the

short statement in the first place. What I would have you " believe " I

have covered in my reply to Jen.

 

> Vicki (thankful that there are dissenters in our midst)

 

Seems to me the above is like .. as opposed to what? Did you think that

there were only nodding heads on this list? Did you think folks on the

list were bullied or something like that? I ask because I read your

comment that way and I might be wrong. I know you've not been a list

member long but you've been long enough to see some HEAVY disagreements

a time or three. ;-)

 

Disagreeing is what its all about .. but we must be careful to not try

to be disagreeable or personal and TRY dump on those we disagree with ..

tis better to deal with the messages than it is the personality of the

bearer of the message.

 

And .. it seems to me I had far more important and controversial points

in my post that one could have used as a jumping off point if they

wanted to exercise their right of dissent. I would have enjoyed

responding to them. :-)

 

> PS I saw a fabulous program last week about anti nuclear campaigner and

> author, Dr Helen Caldicott. There was a brief interview with Martin Sheen

> who expressed the sentiment that he was glad that Iraquis will now have the

> right to dissent, but now he wasn't so sure about his own rights to do the

> same.

 

Martin Sheen does get a bit confused at times .. isn't he the one with

drugs are working on his mind .. maybe I confused him with someone else.

But he is certainly not likely to make any pro-American statements

since he gets his butt locked up from time to time for breaking laws

when he is into his " activist " role. If we don't have laws then we have

chaos. Another story. :-) Butch