Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 This is from another list. I looked at nvic.org and didn't see anything on this report yet. Anyone else seen similar reports? Dale http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/489057 Hepatitis B Vaccination Increases Multiple Sclerosis Risk Laurie Barclay, MD Sept. 13, 2004 Hepatitis B virus (HBV) vaccination increases the risk of developing multiple sclerosis (MS), according to the results of a nested, case-control study published in the Sept. 14 issue of Neurology. " Our analyses include 163 cases of MS and 1,604 controls, " lead author Miguel A. Hernán, MD, DrPH, from the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston, Massachusetts, says in a news release. " We estimated that immunization against hepatitis B was associated with a threefold increase in the incidence of MS within the three years following vaccination. " More than 140 countries have followed the World Health Organization recommendation to integrate the HBV vaccine into national immunization programs. In 1996, the French government suspended routine immunization of pre-adolescents in schools because about 200 cases of MS and other central nervous system demyelinating disorders were reported after HBV vaccination. However, studies evaluating the potential link between HBV vaccination and increased risk of MS have been inconclusive. Using the General Practice Research Database (GPRD) in the U.K., the investigators identified patients with a first MS diagnosis recorded between January 1993 and December 2000. Cases were patients with the diagnosis of MS confirmed by examination of medical records, and with at least three years of continuous recording in the GPRD before their date of first symptoms (index date). Each of the 163 cases was matched with up to 10 randomly selected controls (n = 1,604), matched for age, sex, practice, and date of joining the practice. Compared with patients who were not vaccinated, the odds ratio of developing MS in patients who received the HBV vaccination within three years before the index date was 3.1 (95% confidence interval, 1.5 - 6.3). Tetanus and influenza vaccinations were not associated with increased risk of MS. " Our study cannot distinguish whether the vaccine hastens the onset of MS in persons destined to develop the disease years later, or whether it causes new cases of MS in susceptible individuals, " Dr. Hernán says. " It is also important to stress that 93% of the MS cases in our study had not been vaccinated. " Study limitations include potential confounding. The investigators note that any considerations regarding the administration of HBV vaccine must reflect the large benefits derived from the prevention of a common and potentially lethal infection, and they recommend additional research to elucidate the association between HBV vaccine and MS. The National Multiple Sclerosis Society supported this study. In an accompanying editorial, Robert T. Naismith, MD, and Anne H. Cross, MD, from Washington University in Saint Louis, Missouri, describe the " bumpy " road to universal immunization against HBV and praise the sound methodology of this study. However, they note that the selection process for cases, which was thought to be necessary to properly perform the study, might have led to some unrecognized bias. " No data are presented to change the current Level C recommendation from the Immunization Panel of the MS Council for Clinical Practice Guidelines, which was approved by the AAN, " the editorialists write. " This committee determined that the HBV [vaccine] had not been found to be detrimental in those with established MS, and recommended that patients follow the Centers for Disease Control immunization guidelines.... The indisputable benefit that the HBV [vaccine] provides against an infection that kills 5,000 per year in the United States must be weighed against any uncommon risks that remain in dispute. " Neurology. 2004;63:772-773, 838-842 Reviewed by Gary D. Vogin, MD ------------------------------ Hernan MA, Jick SS, Olek MJ, Jick H. Recombinant hepatitis B vaccine and the risk of multiple sclerosis: A prospective study. Neurology 2004 Sep 14;63(5):838-842. Department of Epidemiology (Dr. Hernan), Harvard School of Public Health, Boston; Boston Collaborative Drug Surveillance Program (Drs. Susan S. Jick and Hershel Jick), Boston University, Lexington, MA; and Department of Neurology (Dr. Olek), College of Medicine, University of California, Irvine. Email: miguel_hernan Abstract: Background: A potential link between the recombinant hepatitis B vaccine and an increased risk of multiple sclerosis (MS) has been evaluated in several studies, but some of them have substantial methodologic limitations. Methods: The authors conducted a nested case-control study within the General Practice Research Database (GPRD) in the United Kingdom. The authors identified patients who had a first MS diagnosis recorded in the GPRD between January 1993 and December 2000. Cases were patients with a diagnosis of MS confirmed through examination of medical records, and with at least 3 years of continuous recording in the GPRD before their date of first symptoms (index date). Up to 10 controls per case were randomly selected, matched on age, sex, practice, and date of joining the practice. Information on receipt of immunizations was obtained from the computer records. Results: The analyses include 163 cases of MS and 1,604 controls. The OR of MS for vaccination within 3 years before the index date compared to no vaccination was 3.1 (95% CI 1.5, 6.3). No increased risk of MS was associated with tetanus and influenza vaccinations. Conclusions: These findings are consistent with the hypothesis that immunization with the recombinant hepatitis B vaccine is associated with an increased risk of MS, and challenge the idea that the relation between hepatitis B vaccination and risk of MS is well understood. Discussion. We estimated that immunization against hepatitis B was associated with a threefold increase in the incidence of MS within the 3 years following vaccination. Other common immunizations were not associated with an increased risk of MS. Our study cannot distinguish whether the hepatitis B vaccine hastens the onset of MS in persons destined to develop the disease years later, or whether it causes new cases of MS in susceptible individuals. However, the similar age at first symptoms between vaccinated and unvaccinated cases does not support the former explanation. Elucidating the reasons for the association between hepatitis B vaccine and MS may eventually contribute to a better understanding of the etiology of MS, but any decision concerning hepatitis B vaccination needs to take into account the large benefits derived from the prevention of a common and potentially lethal infection. It is also important to stress that 93% of the MS cases in our study had not been vaccinated. The use of a nested case-control study minimized the bias due to inappropriate selection of controls, and the use of prospectively recorded computerized vaccination records prevented recall bias. Other types of differential misclassification of vaccination history are also unlikely because exposure information was gathered prospectively before the first symptoms of the disease. A certain degree of non-differential (random) misclassification of vaccination history is possible (e.g., a small proportion of persons might have been vaccinated without their GP's knowledge), but its practical consequence would be an attenuation of the association between vaccination and MS. As always in observational research, confounding is a theoretical explanation for the association. Our analyses are therefore matched on and adjusted for various known or suspected risk factors for MS. The use of computerized medical records is an efficient strategy to identify individuals with a diagnosis of MS. However, our approach was to combine the use of computerized medical records to identify individuals with a diagnosis of MS with the retrieval and review of paper medical records to determine their date of first symptoms, since we found that the computer records did not provide sufficient information to determine the subjects' clinical history, including date of first MS symptoms. An accurate determination of the date of first symptoms is important because, as we observed, the probability of hepatitis B vaccination decreases after clinical onset of MS. Thus, the use of dates that are posterior to the true date of first symptoms may cause a downward bias of the OR for acute exposures such as vaccinations. Several case-control studies have evaluated the association between hepatitis B vaccination and risk of MS or demyelination (table 4). Two French studies found about a 1.5-fold increase in the risk of a first episode of CNS demyelination during the 2 months following hepatitis B vaccination.5,6 In both studies, the date of first symptoms was ascertained by review of medical records, and dates of vaccination were obtained retrospectively by questionnaire and phone interview of the participants. Concurrently with the first reporting of results from the French studies, a preliminary assessment of the association between hepatitis B vaccination and MS in the GPRD found a 1.6-fold increase (95% CI 0.6, 4.0) in the risk of MS or demyelination during the 12 months following hepatitis B vaccination.7 MS diagnoses and dates of first symptoms were ascertained by review of computerized records only. More recently, a case-control study in three North American health maintenance organizations (HMOs) found a nonsignificant increase in the risk of MS or optic neuritis 1 to 5 years after vaccination against hepatitis B, and no increase before 1 year or after 5 years.8 The date of first symptoms was retrieved from medical records and telephone interviews, and vaccination histories included both vaccinations recorded in HMO records and those reported in telephone interviews. A case-control study nested in the Nurses' Health Studies did not find an increased risk of MS associated with hepatitis B vaccination in women.9 The vaccination status was obtained retrospectively and the analysis included only women who self-reported never having been vaccinated in a questionnaire, and those who self-reported having been vaccinated and for whom vaccination certificates were available. This design may cause selection bias leading to a downwardly biased OR.18-20 Perhaps more important, the date of first symptoms of the disease was retrospectively assessed by questionnaires sent to each case and the current treating neurologist or internist. Two other studies did not find an increased risk of MS after immunization against hepatitis B. A study conducted in a database consisting of integrated pharmacy and medical claims from six HMOs in the United States found no difference in the 3-year risk of diagnosis of demyelinating diseases between subjects vaccinated and non-vaccinated for hepatitis B.10 This null finding is consistent with our null finding in the GPRD when we used date of diagnosis, rather than date of first symptoms, of MS to define the period of risk. An ecologic study compared the number of adolescents who developed MS before (1986 to 1992) and after (1992 to 1998) a school-based hepatitis B vaccination program was implemented in British Columbia, Canada.11 Nine out of 288,657 unvaccinated teenagers and 5 out of 289,651 vaccinated teenagers had first symptoms of MS, but the unvaccinated had up to 13 years of follow- up, while the vaccinated had only up to 7 years of follow-up and therefore less opportunity to be diagnosed with MS. The recombinant hepatitis B vaccine is a non-infectious viral vaccine derived from hepatitis B surface antigen (HBsAg) produced in genetically engineered yeast (Saccharomyces cerevisiae) cells. Although several viruses (e.g., Epstein-Barr virus) have been postulated to cause MS, the hepatitis B virus has not been prominent in the discussions of viral triggers of MS.21 It is therefore unclear how a recombinant vaccine that contains purified HbsAg, a portion of the hepatitis B virus, could trigger the immunologic processes that lead to MS. The vaccine also contains an adjuvant (aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate), a mercury-based preservative (thimerosal, eliminated from recent formulations), and yeast proteins (up to 5%), but these components have not been separately studied in relation to the risk of MS. Laurie Barclay, MD Sept. 13, 2004 Hepatitis B virus (HBV) vaccination increases the risk of developing multiple sclerosis (MS), according to the results of a nested, case-control study published in the Sept. 14 issue of Neurology. " Our analyses include 163 cases of MS and 1,604 controls, " lead author Miguel A. Hernán, MD, DrPH, from the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston, Massachusetts, says in a news release. " We estimated that immunization against hepatitis B was associated with a threefold increase in the incidence of MS within the three years following vaccination. " More than 140 countries have followed the World Health Organization recommendation to integrate the HBV vaccine into national immunization programs. In 1996, the French government suspended routine immunization of pre-adolescents in schools because about 200 cases of MS and other central nervous system demyelinating disorders were reported after HBV vaccination. However, studies evaluating the potential link between HBV vaccination and increased risk of MS have been inconclusive. Using the General Practice Research Database (GPRD) in the U.K., the investigators identified patients with a first MS diagnosis recorded between January 1993 and December 2000. Cases were patients with the diagnosis of MS confirmed by examination of medical records, and with at least three years of continuous recording in the GPRD before their date of first symptoms (index date). Each of the 163 cases was matched with up to 10 randomly selected controls (n = 1,604), matched for age, sex, practice, and date of joining the practice. Compared with patients who were not vaccinated, the odds ratio of developing MS in patients who received the HBV vaccination within three years before the index date was 3.1 (95% confidence interval, 1.5 - 6.3). Tetanus and influenza vaccinations were not associated with increased risk of MS. " Our study cannot distinguish whether the vaccine hastens the onset of MS in persons destined to develop the disease years later, or whether it causes new cases of MS in susceptible individuals, " Dr. Hernán says. " It is also important to stress that 93% of the MS cases in our study had not been vaccinated. " Study limitations include potential confounding. The investigators note that any considerations regarding the administration of HBV vaccine must reflect the large benefits derived from the prevention of a common and potentially lethal infection, and they recommend additional research to elucidate the association between HBV vaccine and MS. The National Multiple Sclerosis Society supported this study. In an accompanying editorial, Robert T. Naismith, MD, and Anne H. Cross, MD, from Washington University in Saint Louis, Missouri, describe the " bumpy " road to universal immunization against HBV and praise the sound methodology of this study. However, they note that the selection process for cases, which was thought to be necessary to properly perform the study, might have led to some unrecognized bias. " No data are presented to change the current Level C recommendation from the Immunization Panel of the MS Council for Clinical Practice Guidelines, which was approved by the AAN, " the editorialists write. " This committee determined that the HBV [vaccine] had not been found to be detrimental in those with established MS, and recommended that patients follow the Centers for Disease Control immunization guidelines.... The indisputable benefit that the HBV [vaccine] provides against an infection that kills 5,000 per year in the United States must be weighed against any uncommon risks that remain in dispute. " Neurology. 2004;63:772-773, 838-842 Reviewed by Gary D. Vogin, MD ------------------------------ Hernan MA, Jick SS, Olek MJ, Jick H. Recombinant hepatitis B vaccine and the risk of multiple sclerosis: A prospective study. Neurology 2004 Sep 14;63(5):838-842. Department of Epidemiology (Dr. Hernan), Harvard School of Public Health, Boston; Boston Collaborative Drug Surveillance Program (Drs. Susan S. Jick and Hershel Jick), Boston University, Lexington, MA; and Department of Neurology (Dr. Olek), College of Medicine, University of California, Irvine. Email: miguel_hernan Abstract: Background: A potential link between the recombinant hepatitis B vaccine and an increased risk of multiple sclerosis (MS) has been evaluated in several studies, but some of them have substantial methodologic limitations. Methods: The authors conducted a nested case-control study within the General Practice Research Database (GPRD) in the United Kingdom. The authors identified patients who had a first MS diagnosis recorded in the GPRD between January 1993 and December 2000. Cases were patients with a diagnosis of MS confirmed through examination of medical records, and with at least 3 years of continuous recording in the GPRD before their date of first symptoms (index date). Up to 10 controls per case were randomly selected, matched on age, sex, practice, and date of joining the practice. Information on receipt of immunizations was obtained from the computer records. Results: The analyses include 163 cases of MS and 1,604 controls. The OR of MS for vaccination within 3 years before the index date compared to no vaccination was 3.1 (95% CI 1.5, 6.3). No increased risk of MS was associated with tetanus and influenza vaccinations. Conclusions: These findings are consistent with the hypothesis that immunization with the recombinant hepatitis B vaccine is associated with an increased risk of MS, and challenge the idea that the relation between hepatitis B vaccination and risk of MS is well understood. Discussion. We estimated that immunization against hepatitis B was associated with a threefold increase in the incidence of MS within the 3 years following vaccination. Other common immunizations were not associated with an increased risk of MS. Our study cannot distinguish whether the hepatitis B vaccine hastens the onset of MS in persons destined to develop the disease years later, or whether it causes new cases of MS in susceptible individuals. However, the similar age at first symptoms between vaccinated and unvaccinated cases does not support the former explanation. Elucidating the reasons for the association between hepatitis B vaccine and MS may eventually contribute to a better understanding of the etiology of MS, but any decision concerning hepatitis B vaccination needs to take into account the large benefits derived from the prevention of a common and potentially lethal infection. It is also important to stress that 93% of the MS cases in our study had not been vaccinated. The use of a nested case-control study minimized the bias due to inappropriate selection of controls, and the use of prospectively recorded computerized vaccination records prevented recall bias. Other types of differential misclassification of vaccination history are also unlikely because exposure information was gathered prospectively before the first symptoms of the disease. A certain degree of non-differential (random) misclassification of vaccination history is possible (e.g., a small proportion of persons might have been vaccinated without their GP's knowledge), but its practical consequence would be an attenuation of the association between vaccination and MS. As always in observational research, confounding is a theoretical explanation for the association. Our analyses are therefore matched on and adjusted for various known or suspected risk factors for MS. The use of computerized medical records is an efficient strategy to identify individuals with a diagnosis of MS. However, our approach was to combine the use of computerized medical records to identify individuals with a diagnosis of MS with the retrieval and review of paper medical records to determine their date of first symptoms, since we found that the computer records did not provide sufficient information to determine the subjects' clinical history, including date of first MS symptoms. An accurate determination of the date of first symptoms is important because, as we observed, the probability of hepatitis B vaccination decreases after clinical onset of MS. Thus, the use of dates that are posterior to the true date of first symptoms may cause a downward bias of the OR for acute exposures such as vaccinations. Several case-control studies have evaluated the association between hepatitis B vaccination and risk of MS or demyelination (table 4). Two French studies found about a 1.5-fold increase in the risk of a first episode of CNS demyelination during the 2 months following hepatitis B vaccination.5,6 In both studies, the date of first symptoms was ascertained by review of medical records, and dates of vaccination were obtained retrospectively by questionnaire and phone interview of the participants. Concurrently with the first reporting of results from the French studies, a preliminary assessment of the association between hepatitis B vaccination and MS in the GPRD found a 1.6-fold increase (95% CI 0.6, 4.0) in the risk of MS or demyelination during the 12 months following hepatitis B vaccination.7 MS diagnoses and dates of first symptoms were ascertained by review of computerized records only. More recently, a case-control study in three North American health maintenance organizations (HMOs) found a nonsignificant increase in the risk of MS or optic neuritis 1 to 5 years after vaccination against hepatitis B, and no increase before 1 year or after 5 years.8 The date of first symptoms was retrieved from medical records and telephone interviews, and vaccination histories included both vaccinations recorded in HMO records and those reported in telephone interviews. A case-control study nested in the Nurses' Health Studies did not find an increased risk of MS associated with hepatitis B vaccination in women.9 The vaccination status was obtained retrospectively and the analysis included only women who self-reported never having been vaccinated in a questionnaire, and those who self-reported having been vaccinated and for whom vaccination certificates were available. This design may cause selection bias leading to a downwardly biased OR.18-20 Perhaps more important, the date of first symptoms of the disease was retrospectively assessed by questionnaires sent to each case and the current treating neurologist or internist. Two other studies did not find an increased risk of MS after immunization against hepatitis B. A study conducted in a database consisting of integrated pharmacy and medical claims from six HMOs in the United States found no difference in the 3-year risk of diagnosis of demyelinating diseases between subjects vaccinated and non-vaccinated for hepatitis B.10 This null finding is consistent with our null finding in the GPRD when we used date of diagnosis, rather than date of first symptoms, of MS to define the period of risk. An ecologic study compared the number of adolescents who developed MS before (1986 to 1992) and after (1992 to 1998) a school-based hepatitis B vaccination program was implemented in British Columbia, Canada.11 Nine out of 288,657 unvaccinated teenagers and 5 out of 289,651 vaccinated teenagers had first symptoms of MS, but the unvaccinated had up to 13 years of follow- up, while the vaccinated had only up to 7 years of follow-up and therefore less opportunity to be diagnosed with MS. The recombinant hepatitis B vaccine is a non-infectious viral vaccine derived from hepatitis B surface antigen (HBsAg) produced in genetically engineered yeast (Saccharomyces cerevisiae) cells. Although several viruses (e.g., Epstein-Barr virus) have been postulated to cause MS, the hepatitis B virus has not been prominent in the discussions of viral triggers of MS.21 It is therefore unclear how a recombinant vaccine that contains purified HbsAg, a portion of the hepatitis B virus, could trigger the immunologic processes that lead to MS. The vaccine also contains an adjuvant (aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate), a mercury-based preservative (thimerosal, eliminated from recent formulations), and yeast proteins (up to 5%), but these components have not been separately studied in relation to the risk of MS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Well, I am glad that this was posted although I must say I'm very upset by what I read. Just this past week my brother's wife's mom died from MS and my children's father's sister has advanced MS. We are already having to accept that one grandson is autistic and that may or may not have been caused from a reaction to vaccines given to him as an infant. And now a new worry. Thank you for posting this ! It is important even though it is upsetting. Hugs, Sally - Dale Bernucca<dbernucca < > Tuesday, September 14, 2004 11:22 AM Hep B Vaccine Increases MS Risk? This is from another list. I looked at nvic.org and didn't see anything on this report yet. Anyone else seen similar reports? Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Hello All~ Been reading these posts on vaccines, and was appalled at the fact that they would immunise a 3 day old infant. I live in Florida, USA, and wonder if anyone know if one can deny having any of that done? I have heard that certain religions forbid some medical procedures, but I am not sure exactly which... Very interesting topic. If I have good fortune to have a child, I would like to know if this kinda thing is really necessary. Hugs, Nessy ps. thank you for caring enough to bring it up as a topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Hi Nessy, First off , my granddaughter got her first shot when she was 2 hours old !! The next thing is, it is required that a child has to have all the shots before they can start school. And they have to continue to get shots every few years until they are 16 . If they do not get these shots they can not continue to go to school. In our state we can home school our kids but they now charge us $300 per subject per semester. Unreal , huh ? Think about this, most high school students have to have at least 22 credits to graduate. Now you only get a half credit per subject per semester making it cost $600 for a full credit. Times that by 22 . It will cost $13,200 to home school a high school student in Texas. Hugs, Sally - Nessy Saylor (Rodney's Wife)<nessysaylor < > Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:11 AM Re: Hep B Vaccine Increases MS Risk? Hello All~ Been reading these posts on vaccines, and was appalled at the fact that they would immunise a 3 day old infant. I live in Florida, USA, and wonder if anyone know if one can deny having any of that done? I have heard that certain religions forbid some medical procedures, but I am not sure exactly which... Very interesting topic. If I have good fortune to have a child, I would like to know if this kinda thing is really necessary. Hugs, Nessy ps. thank you for caring enough to bring it up as a topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 In our state we can home school our kids but they now charge us $300 per subject per semester. Unreal , huh ? That is criminal!!!! Too darn much government in our lives and faces!!!! Neysa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Hi Nessy, In some places, like Japan for example, they found certain questionable vaccines to have less damaging effects and occurrences when given to children at older ages (2 and up) instead of the 5 weeks old that we in the US start being told that we have to bombard the babies with the ever growing number of " routine " shots ... Here is the specific info about Florida - which has religious and medical exemptions available http://www.909shot.com/state-site/Florida.htm http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/florida.htm *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com Nessy Saylor (Rodney's Wife) [nessysaylor] Hello All~ Been reading these posts on vaccines, and was appalled at the fact that they would immunise a 3 day old infant. I live in Florida, USA, and wonder if anyone know if one can deny having any of that done? I have heard that certain religions forbid some medical procedures, but I am not sure exactly which... Very interesting topic. If I have good fortune to have a child, I would like to know if this kinda thing is really necessary. Hugs, Nessy ps. thank you for caring enough to bring it up as a topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Sally, I homeschool and live in Texas. I've never of being charged money per semester!! I haven't paid a dime for anything I've taught her with the exception of buying books and such from other homeschoolers or a particular curriculum that I like. Texas has one of the easiest homeschooling laws in the United States and I thank goodness that I live here instead of elsewhere to homeschool my daughter. Unless your talking about the high school courses they take at the colleges, but then they are getting dual credit for high school and college. Technically, in homeschooling, your child can get their diploma and a BA in College upon completion of high school!! Plus, I've never even seen the dual college courses costing as much as $300.00. My pediatrician is wonderful. He's known since my daughter was born that we were going to homeschool her and he has never fought me on any of the vaccinations. His last words to me were, she's in perfect health. We'll see her for her 10 year old checkup! We last saw him when she turned 5! Nikie Brown After The Rayne - Handmade Soaps & Toiletries http://www.aftertherayne.com <http://www.aftertherayne.com/> nbrown 936-203-3188 Sally Trew [sallyTrew2] Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:16 AM Re: Hep B Vaccine Increases MS Risk? Hi Nessy, First off , my granddaughter got her first shot when she was 2 hours old !! The next thing is, it is required that a child has to have all the shots before they can start school. And they have to continue to get shots every few years until they are 16 . If they do not get these shots they can not continue to go to school. In our state we can home school our kids but they now charge us $300 per subject per semester. Unreal , huh ? Think about this, most high school students have to have at least 22 credits to graduate. Now you only get a half credit per subject per semester making it cost $600 for a full credit. Times that by 22 . It will cost $13,200 to home school a high school student in Texas. Hugs, Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Ugh.. I just saw that my grammar was not up to par on that email!! Pardon me for not proofreading what I wrote. I was writing in a passionate vein!! Regards, Nikie B. Nikie Brown - After The Rayne [nbrown] Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:21 PM RE: Hep B Vaccine Increases MS Risk? Sally, I homeschool and live in Texas. I've never of being charged money per semester!! I haven't paid a dime for anything I've taught her with the exception of buying books and such from other homeschoolers or a particular curriculum that I like. Texas has one of the easiest homeschooling laws in the United States and I thank goodness that I live here instead of elsewhere to homeschool my daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 OMG!! Really ?? Someone I know just paid $2000 for home schooling ! That's what they told her it cost !! I had my grandson's case worker check into it and she told me the same thing ! Could it be our county ? - Nikie Brown - After The Rayne<nbrown < > Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:06 PM RE: Hep B Vaccine Increases MS Risk? Ugh.. I just saw that my grammar was not up to par on that email!! Pardon me for not proofreading what I wrote. I was writing in a passionate vein!! Regards, Nikie B. Nikie Brown - After The Rayne [nbrown] Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:21 PM RE: Hep B Vaccine Increases MS Risk? Sally, I homeschool and live in Texas. I've never of being charged money per semester!! I haven't paid a dime for anything I've taught her with the exception of buying books and such from other homeschoolers or a particular curriculum that I like. Texas has one of the easiest homeschooling laws in the United States and I thank goodness that I live here instead of elsewhere to homeschool my daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Hi Nickie Someone I know just paid $2000 for her daughter's home schooling. And after a year of the course her daughter got 3 credits. She is still a freshman. Her daughter does her lessons and then they send her test. I talked to my grandson's case worker and she told me that they do charge and his SS would not pay for that. This could be thru our school district. I'll go back and ask more questions about it. I would actually prefer home schooling him since he is spending most of the day in the office for bad behavior. We do not have a special school out here in the sticks for children with needs like his and what we do have is a one size fits all sort of thing. They just lump them all together and call it school. I have taught him to count, and all his colors and some of his ABC's but it is so hard to reach the world he is locked in. I had been shocked when I was told that they have to pay for her home schooling and that it was $300 per subject per semester but, that is what I was told. I don't know of anyone else out here who is home schooling but I'll start looking. Hugs, Sally - Nikie Brown - After The Rayne<nbrown < > Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:21 PM RE: Hep B Vaccine Increases MS Risk? Sally, I homeschool and live in Texas. I've never of being charged money per semester!! I haven't paid a dime for anything I've taught her with the exception of buying books and such from other homeschoolers or a particular curriculum that I like. Texas has one of the easiest homeschooling laws in the United States and I thank goodness that I live here instead of elsewhere to homeschool my daughter. Unless your talking about the high school courses they take at the colleges, but then they are getting dual credit for high school and college. Technically, in homeschooling, your child can get their diploma and a BA in College upon completion of high school!! Plus, I've never even seen the dual college courses costing as much as $300.00. My pediatrician is wonderful. He's known since my daughter was born that we were going to homeschool her and he has never fought me on any of the vaccinations. His last words to me were, she's in perfect health. We'll see her for her 10 year old checkup! We last saw him when she turned 5! Nikie Brown After The Rayne - Handmade Soaps & Toiletries http://www.aftertherayne.com<http://www.aftertherayne.com/> <http://www.aftertherayne.com/<http://www.aftertherayne.com/>> nbrown 936-203-3188 Sally Trew [sallyTrew2] Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:16 AM Re: Hep B Vaccine Increases MS Risk? Hi Nessy, First off , my granddaughter got her first shot when she was 2 hours old !! The next thing is, it is required that a child has to have all the shots before they can start school. And they have to continue to get shots every few years until they are 16 . If they do not get these shots they can not continue to go to school. In our state we can home school our kids but they now charge us $300 per subject per semester. Unreal , huh ? Think about this, most high school students have to have at least 22 credits to graduate. Now you only get a half credit per subject per semester making it cost $600 for a full credit. Times that by 22 . It will cost $13,200 to home school a high school student in Texas. Hugs, Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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