Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Dear Jack, I did a research paper on this. Creepy stuff. So far it seams to be isolated to Texas. Poss. parasite? Hard to say what the vector is. Too many infected for it to be urban myth. Have you seen pictures? Unreal! Ann E. - Jack Sweeney<mojavecowboy To: < > Monday, November 27, 2006 6:09 AM Morgellons Disease Hi: Wondering whether anyone knows of this mystery disease, whether its real or whether Chinese medicine can or should address this. Regards, Jack http://www.wnd.<http://www.wnd./> com/news/ article.asp? ARTICLE_ID= 50254 WND OUTBREAK! Border mystery disease: Is huge scare even real? Symptoms include persistent lesions, fibers popping out of skin, brain fog Posted: May 18, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Ron Strom ?2006 WorldNetDaily. com Fibers removed from facial lesion of 3-year-old boy A nonprofit foundation is working to drum up awareness of a border-area mystery disease that's been described as something out of a horror film, but which most mainstream doctors refuse to admit exists. The Morgellons Research Foundation hopes to inform lawmakers and public-health officials of the disease to try to work toward an eventual cure. As WorldNetDaily reported, Morgellons disease, a mysterious infection seemingly similar to one documented 300 years ago, is spreading throughout South Texas. While the disease has not been known to kill and doesn't appear to be contagious, it's the horrible symptoms that have some working feverishly to find an effective treatment. The South Texas outbreak's proximity to the U.S.-Mexico border comes at a time when the issues of illegal immigration, border security and possible amnesty for over 12 million illegal aliens are being debated in the U.S. According to the foundation's website, symptoms include skin lesions that do not heal, a crawling sensation on the surface of the skin, fatigue, cognitive difficulties and, perhaps the most disturbing, fibers popping out of the skin. Fibers removed from facial lesion of 3-year-old boy States the site: " [The fibers] are generally described by patients as white, but clinicians also report seeing blue, green, red, and black fibers, that fluoresce when viewed under ultraviolet light (Wood's lamp). " Travis Wilson, a Morgellons sufferer for over a year, once called his mother in to see a fiber coming out of a lesion in his chest. " It looked like a piece of spaghetti was sticking out about a quarter to an eighth of an inch long and it was sticking out of his chest, " Lisa Wilson told the San Antonio Express-News. " I tried to pull it as hard as I could out and I could not pull it out. " He'd have attacks and fibers would come out of his hands and fingers, white, black and sometimes red. Very, very painful, " said Wilson. A variety of other symptoms range from neurological and gastrointestinal problems to changes in skin pigment. Some people have also reported black, tarry beads of sweat. While it's impossible to know how many Americans - who appear to be concentrated in California, Texas and Florida - suffer with the disease, the foundation says thousands with one or more symptom have registered with it. Even so, most of the medical community don't see the disease as real, with some doctors telling patients it's all in their head. " They (doctors) told me I was just doing this to myself, that I was nuts. So basically I stopped going to doctors because I was afraid they were going to lock me up, " said sufferer Stephanie Bailey. A big question medical professionals are wrestling with is how victims come down with the disease. " It is difficult to say whether Morgellons is contagious, " states the FAQ page on the foundation's site. " Many of our group have family members who exhibit no symptoms whatever. On the other hand, many entire families have reported becoming infected at or near the same time. At this juncture, it remains unclear if these households with multiple infected members reflect contagion, due to human-to-human transmission, or some type of mutual exposure. " ________ Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music./unlimited<http://music./unlimited> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I researched this about a year ago and couldn't find anything that documented these fibers poping out of the skin beyond your run of the mill clothing fibers beneath the fingernails, etc. Looks like a shen disturbance to me. -al. On 11/27/06, Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy wrote: > > Hi: > > Wondering whether anyone knows of this mystery > disease, whether its real or whether Chinese medicine > can or should address this. > > Regards, Jack > > -- Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I have had several people discuss this with me and their symptoms are as creepy as revealed on the various newspapers and TV reports. Of course it is a SHEN disturbance as the mind is severally afflicted because it not only is creepy but western doctors actually tell their patients that they are delusional!!! but that is not the root cause. The fibers do come out- they are real. Various treatments like Bentonite clay and colloidal silver have been successful in so far as causing the fibers to come out and offering at least relief on 2 fronts. 1. Affirming that the patients are _not_ delusional and 2. the itching and irritation being reduced when the patient is able to withdrawal the fiber. Three people who have this disorder and whom I discussed treatments with, told me that the alternative treatments seem to cause the fibers to flee from the body - rather than the fibers being an " egg " or " stage " and moving along its developmental line. To my image this is akin to the expressions of measles along the lines of the WB. Alternatively it may be the very slight electrical charge (negative) associated with both Bentonite clay and colloidal silver. One person believed the cause is from the seeds of the pampus grass. Another person identified the " source " from the black sludge they were in from the Katrina Disaster and the mobile home they were in. Another two had no idea just that it was insidious and getting worse. It is easy to become paranoid and/or delusional on this subject. For instance take any cotton swab and carefully patiently watch it for a few minutes and you will see it move about ! Of course reading an article on Monsanto and genetic engineering helps set the stage, as well as talking to your friendly alternative medicine type ... But when you actually see someone who has this - and they have been told they are delusional and there is nothing to do for it ... http://www.happyherbalist.com/Morgellons.htm Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Morgellans seems to be real. The fibers that appear to come out of lesions are apparently not easy to categorize as plant, animal or fungal (but are not textile fibers caught in the lesions.) Probably a symbiosis between parasite and fungus. I would treat with immune tonics, anti-inflammatories, anti-parasiticals and anti-fungals, with something to calm the shen as well. Carb cravings seem to accompany Morgellans and we know that bacteria and the like can affect the desire for foods that benefit them. One colleague is using turmeric, neem, triphala, licorice and ginger with some symptomatic success. -- Karen Vaughan, MSTOM Licensed Acupuncturist, and Herbalist 253 Garfield Place Brooklyn, NY 11215 (718) 622-6755 Co-Conspirator to Make the World A Better Place: Visit http://www.heroicstories.com/ and join the conspiracy See my Acupuncture and Herbs website at: http://ksvaughan2.byregion.net/ And my website at Avon Walk for Breast Cancer 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 The (few) Morgollans patients with whom I've spoken all follow a similar pattern, they are: 1) easily moved by suggestion 2) self diagnosing based on internet sites 3) fraught with a litany of unconnected signs and symptoms that favor pop diagnosis such as dehydration, candida, parasites, toxic mold, etc... I don't know if there is anything to this " disease " , however given the above observations, I would focus on moving qi and calming the shen rather than trying to define a new disease. That pathology called " gu " or " ku " which is a mixture of parasites and curses kind of applies here. If you really want to put Morgollans on the TCM map, that may be the way to do it, but for me, I'm still considering this predominately a shen disturbance. -al. On 11/28/06, Ed Kasper LAc <eddy wrote: I have had several people discuss this with me and their symptoms are as creepy as revealed on the various newspapers and TV reports. On 11/28/06, Karen Vaughan <creationsgarden1 wrote: > > Morgellans seems to be real. > -- Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Has any one on CHA actually seen these Morgollan worms? I'm getting confused with those who have talked to but not seen patients, talked to people who treat it or seen a number of reports. Do we have a first hand report from anyone? doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Morgollan's disease is also known as 'delusional parasitosis', according to my Tropical medicine MD friend at Mass. General Hospital.... --- wrote: > Has any one on CHA actually seen these Morgollan > worms? I'm getting > confused with those who have talked to but not seen > patients, talked > to people who treat it or seen a number of reports. > Do we have a first > hand report from anyone? > doug > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music./unlimited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 There is an organization called the Morgollans Research Foundation and they work with the WHO and CDC. Follow the more images link for full story. Good info and solid research with references. Peace, Ann E. Morgellons Research Foundation A nonprofit organization P.O. Box 16576 Surfside Beach, SC 29587 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Morgellons Research Foundation February 14, 2006 CASE DEFINITION - MORGELLONS DISEASE (DRAFT) The following case definition of Morgellons disease has been developed by physicians on the medical advisory board of the Morgellons Research Foundation. This case definition is a preliminary and evolving document, now updated for review by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). This document will be refined as further information becomes available and as members of the medical advisory board deem necessary. The Following Six Signs or Symptoms Are The Basis of Morgellons Disease: 1. Skin lesions, both spontaneously appearing and self-generated, with intense itching. The former may initially appear as " urticarial-like " , or as " pimple-like " with or without a white center. The latter appear as linear or " picking " excoriations. Even when not self-generated, lesions often progress to open wounds that heal abnormally and usually incompletely. (e.g., heal very slowly with discolored epidermis or seal over with a thick gelatinous outer layer.) 2. Crawling sensations, both within and on the skin surface. Often conceptualized by the patient as " bugs moving, stinging or biting " intermittently. Besides the general dermis, may also involve the scalp, nares, ear canal, and body hair or hair follicles. The sensations are at times related to the presence of easily seen insects, arthropods, and other human and non-human associated parasites that require serious attention from the observing clinician. 3. Fatigue significant enough to interfere with the activities for daily living. 4. Cognitive difficulties, including measurable short term memory and attention deficit, as well as difficulty processing thoughts correctly. Described by patients as " brain fog " . 5. Behavioral effects are common in many patients. Many have been or will be diagnosed as Attention Deficit Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, Bipolar Disorder, or Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. A minority do not show this pattern. Almost all, if previously seen by well-read physicians without prolonged observation, will have been labeled as " Delusional Parasitosis " . Temporal relationship to skin lesion onset is not known. 6. " Fibers " are reported in and on skin lesions. They are generally described by patients as white, but clinicians also report seeing blue, green, red, and black fibers, that fluoresce when viewed under ultraviolet light (Wood's lamp). Objects described as " granules " , similar in size and shape to sand grains, can occasionally be removed from either broken or intact skin by physicians, but are commonly reported by patients. Patients report seeing black " specks " or " dots " on or in their skin, as well as unusual 1-3 mm " fuzzballs " both in their lesions and on (or falling from) intact skin. OTHER COMMONLY REPORTED SYMPTOMS AND SIGNS 1. Change in visual acuity. 2. Numerous neurological findings. A variety of neurological symptoms have been reported. Some patients have been diagnosed with Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis, Multiple Sclerosis, and other well-known and recognized disorders, while others display significant symptoms not falling into any well-defined neurological category. 3. Gastrointestinal symptoms, which may include dyspepsia, gastroesophageal reflux, and/or changes in bowel habits often similar to Irritable Bowel Syndrome. 4. Neuropsychiatric symptoms and signs, ranging from mood or personality changes to diagnosed disorders including Attention Deficit Disorder, Bipolar Disorder, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and occasionally frank psychosis. Temporal relationship to skin lesion onset is not known 5. Acute changes in skin texture and pigment. The skin is variously thickened and thinned, with an irregular texture and irregular hyperpigmentation pattern. The changes resemble age associated sun-exposure skin damage, but typically appear acutely 6. Skin examination often reveals excoriated and/or crusted lesions which, on examination with lighted magnification, are seen to have inclusions of variously colored (white, blue, black, or red) fibers. Skin examination may also reveal multiple hyper-pigmented macules, and an increase of what appears to be villous hair on arms and face. 7. Arthralgias are reported by many patients. 8. Associated diagnoses which have been commonly reported in this patient population include Borreliosis (better known as Lyme Disease), Fibromyalgia, and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. OTHER COMMONLY REPORTED OBSERVATIONS 1. Most patients will have sought care from multiple medical care providers. A large number will have been diagnosed with Delusional Parasitosis likely because of the juxtaposition of unexplained skin lesions and sensations and psychiatric overlay. Unfortunately, almost none will have received an appropriate diagnostic physical examination (particularly a microscopic or biopsy examination of lesions), but will have been diagnosed by history alone with grossly incomplete observation. 2. Most of these patients feel abandoned by the traditional medical care system and have sought alternative care providers or have self medicated, seriously compounding an already difficult medical situation LABORATORY AND OTHER DIAGNOSTIC EVALUATION To date, there have been no formal laboratory or imaging studies done in this patient group. There are some reasonably consistent clinical findings, however, that need further examination, in controlled studies, to be corroborated or refuted. REVIEWED BY: William T. Harvey, MD, MPH Michael Ledtke, MD Ginger Savely, RN, FNP-C Raphael B. Stricker, MD Gregory V. Smith, MD, FAAP Medical Advisory Board Morgellons Research Foundation Most individuals with this disease.. -- ..report disturbing crawling, stinging, and biting sensations, as well as non-healing skin lesions, which are associated with highly unusual structures. More images are available in our Images<http://www.morgellons.org/images.html> section, including Scanning Electron Micrographs of a fiber. Fibers embedded in skin removed from facial lesion of three year old boy, 60x. -- Fibers embedded in skin removed from facial lesion of three year old boy, 60x. - Al Stone<al To: < > Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:22 PM Re: Re:Morgellons Disease The (few) Morgollans patients with whom I've spoken all follow a similar pattern, they are: 1) easily moved by suggestion 2) self diagnosing based on internet sites 3) fraught with a litany of unconnected signs and symptoms that favor pop diagnosis such as dehydration, candida, parasites, toxic mold, etc... I don't know if there is anything to this " disease " , however given the above observations, I would focus on moving qi and calming the shen rather than trying to define a new disease. That pathology called " gu " or " ku " which is a mixture of parasites and curses kind of applies here. If you really want to put Morgollans on the TCM map, that may be the way to do it, but for me, I'm still considering this predominately a shen disturbance. -al. On 11/28/06, Ed Kasper LAc <eddy<eddy> wrote: I have had several people discuss this with me and their symptoms are as creepy as revealed on the various newspapers and TV reports. On 11/28/06, Karen Vaughan <creationsgarden1<creationsgarden1> wrote: > > Morgellans seems to be real. > -- Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 I'm sorry but I can't accept any information about this that isn't first person testimony. And I thank are previous poster for his description. I can show you web-sites that blame this on Chem trails (don't ask) and nano-technology in growing vegetables. The symptoms are clear. What it is, isn't. The best explanation I've seen is that it is a by-product of Lyme's disease. I'm baffled that there is so little analysis as to what these threads actually are. doug , " ANN Johnson " <annesloft wrote: > > There is an organization called the Morgollans Research Foundation and they work with the WHO and CDC. Follow the more images link for full story. Good info and solid research with references. > > Peace, > > Ann E. > Morgellons Research Foundation > A nonprofit organization > P.O. Box 16576 > Surfside Beach, SC 29587 > > > > Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) > Morgellons Research Foundation > February 14, 2006 > > CASE DEFINITION - MORGELLONS DISEASE (DRAFT) > > The following case definition of Morgellons disease has been developed by physicians on the medical advisory board of the Morgellons Research Foundation. This case definition is a preliminary and evolving document, now updated for review by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). This document will be refined as further information becomes available and as members of the medical advisory board deem necessary. > > The Following Six Signs or Symptoms Are The Basis of Morgellons Disease: > > 1. Skin lesions, both spontaneously appearing and self-generated, with intense itching. The former may initially appear as " urticarial-like " , or as " pimple-like " with or without a white center. The latter appear as linear or " picking " excoriations. Even when not self- generated, lesions often progress to open wounds that heal abnormally and usually incompletely. (e.g., heal very slowly with discolored epidermis or seal over with a thick gelatinous outer layer.) > > 2. Crawling sensations, both within and on the skin surface. Often conceptualized by the patient as " bugs moving, stinging or biting " intermittently. Besides the general dermis, may also involve the scalp, nares, ear canal, and body hair or hair follicles. The sensations are at times related to the presence of easily seen insects, arthropods, and other human and non-human associated parasites that require serious attention from the observing clinician. > > 3. Fatigue significant enough to interfere with the activities for daily living. > > 4. Cognitive difficulties, including measurable short term memory and attention deficit, as well as difficulty processing thoughts correctly. Described by patients as " brain fog " . > > 5. Behavioral effects are common in many patients. Many have been or will be diagnosed as Attention Deficit Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, Bipolar Disorder, or Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. A minority do not show this pattern. Almost all, if previously seen by well-read physicians without prolonged observation, will have been labeled as " Delusional Parasitosis " . Temporal relationship to skin lesion onset is not known. > > 6. " Fibers " are reported in and on skin lesions. They are generally described by patients as white, but clinicians also report seeing blue, green, red, and black fibers, that fluoresce when viewed under ultraviolet light (Wood's lamp). Objects described as " granules " , similar in size and shape to sand grains, can occasionally be removed from either broken or intact skin by physicians, but are commonly reported by patients. Patients report seeing black " specks " or " dots " on or in their skin, as well as unusual 1-3 mm " fuzzballs " both in their lesions and on (or falling from) intact skin. > > OTHER COMMONLY REPORTED SYMPTOMS AND SIGNS > > 1. Change in visual acuity. > > 2. Numerous neurological findings. A variety of neurological symptoms have been reported. Some patients have been diagnosed with Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis, Multiple Sclerosis, and other well-known and recognized disorders, while others display significant symptoms not falling into any well-defined neurological category. > > 3. Gastrointestinal symptoms, which may include dyspepsia, gastroesophageal reflux, and/or changes in bowel habits often similar to Irritable Bowel Syndrome. > > 4. Neuropsychiatric symptoms and signs, ranging from mood or personality changes to diagnosed disorders including Attention Deficit Disorder, Bipolar Disorder, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and occasionally frank psychosis. Temporal relationship to skin lesion onset is not known > > 5. Acute changes in skin texture and pigment. The skin is variously thickened and thinned, with an irregular texture and irregular hyperpigmentation pattern. The changes resemble age associated sun-exposure skin damage, but typically appear acutely > > 6. Skin examination often reveals excoriated and/or crusted lesions which, on examination with lighted magnification, are seen to have inclusions of variously colored (white, blue, black, or red) fibers. Skin examination may also reveal multiple hyper- pigmented macules, and an increase of what appears to be villous hair on arms and face. > > 7. Arthralgias are reported by many patients. > > 8. Associated diagnoses which have been commonly reported in this patient population include Borreliosis (better known as Lyme Disease), Fibromyalgia, and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. > > OTHER COMMONLY REPORTED OBSERVATIONS > > 1. Most patients will have sought care from multiple medical care providers. A large number will have been diagnosed with Delusional Parasitosis likely because of the juxtaposition of unexplained skin lesions and sensations and psychiatric overlay. Unfortunately, almost none will have received an appropriate diagnostic physical examination (particularly a microscopic or biopsy examination of lesions), but will have been diagnosed by history alone with grossly incomplete observation. > > 2. Most of these patients feel abandoned by the traditional medical care system and have sought alternative care providers or have self medicated, seriously compounding an already difficult medical situation > > LABORATORY AND OTHER DIAGNOSTIC EVALUATION > > To date, there have been no formal laboratory or imaging studies done in this patient group. There are some reasonably consistent clinical findings, however, that need further examination, in controlled studies, to be corroborated or refuted. > > REVIEWED BY: William T. Harvey, MD, MPH Michael Ledtke, MD Ginger Savely, RN, FNP-C > Raphael B. Stricker, MD Gregory V. Smith, MD, FAAP Medical Advisory Board > Morgellons Research Foundation > > Most individuals with this disease.. > > ---------- ---- > > .report disturbing crawling, stinging, and biting sensations, as well as non-healing skin lesions, which are associated with highly unusual structures. > > > More images are available in our Images<http://www.morgellons.org/images.html> section, including Scanning Electron Micrographs of a fiber. > > Fibers embedded in skin removed from facial lesion of three year old boy, 60x. > > > ---------- ---- > > Fibers embedded in skin removed from facial lesion of three year old boy, 60x. > > > > - > Al Stone<al > To: < > > Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:22 PM > Re: Re:Morgellons Disease > > > The (few) Morgollans patients with whom I've spoken all follow a similar > pattern, they are: > > 1) easily moved by suggestion > 2) self diagnosing based on internet sites > 3) fraught with a litany of unconnected signs and symptoms that favor pop > diagnosis such as dehydration, candida, parasites, toxic mold, etc... > > I don't know if there is anything to this " disease " , however given the above > observations, I would focus on moving qi and calming the shen rather than > trying to define a new disease. > > That pathology called " gu " or " ku " which is a mixture of parasites and > curses kind of applies here. If you really want to put Morgollans on the TCM > map, that may be the way to do it, but for me, I'm still considering this > predominately a shen disturbance. > > -al. > > On 11/28/06, Ed Kasper LAc <eddy<eddy> wrote: > I have had several people discuss this with me and their > symptoms are as creepy as revealed on the various newspapers > and TV reports. > > On 11/28/06, Karen Vaughan <creationsgarden1<creationsgarden1> wrote: > > > > Morgellans seems to be real. > > > > -- > > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Al, seems that those three criteria you named would also fall into the same pattern described by Agent Orange. Initially that condition was refused to be acknowledged by the same AMA until Ross Perot and his medical team finally proved our troops were not delusional. I haven't seen any of these fibers myself, nor have I seen any cancer cells, nor " wind " . I have seen symptoms though and I have seen numerous legimate newscasts. If you treat only the Shen here you are doing a great disservice. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Ann,, Thanks for the links on http://www.morgellons.org/symptoms.html and http://www.morgellons.org/images.html showing electron microscopy of the lesions and hair like structures. Reminds me of some of the Lyme associated organisms. -- Karen Vaughan, MSTOM Licensed Acupuncturist, and Herbalist 253 Garfield Place Brooklyn, NY 11215 (718) 622-6755 Co-Conspirator to Make the World A Better Place: Visit http://www.heroicstories.com/ and join the conspiracy See my Acupuncture and Herbs website at: http://ksvaughan2.byregion.net/ And my website at Avon Walk for Breast Cancer 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Does anyone know anything about this? I am a telephone volunteer for an electrosensitivity charity and have had two very disturbing phone calls from people whos symptoms fit this description. I am a little concerned that I may have it too. Its seems too bizarre to be true but I think it is. I would be very interested to hear from anyone who knows anything about this or sufferes similar symptoms. http://www.morgellons.org/ Adrienne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Morgellons Disease is another of these " unofficial " diseases like fibromyalgia. A friend of mine has had it for three years now and seems to have it under control. I helped him in researching it and finding alternative treatments. As I recall, the Beck device as sold by Sota Instruments was effective in treating it, as is MMS. We have several that discuss Dr. Robert Beck's electronic devices. Watch Bob's online videos. That would be where I would start, but MMS would get it also. Does anyone know anything about this? I am a telephone volunteer for an electrosensitivity charity and have had two very disturbing phone calls from people whos symptoms fit this description. I am a little concerned that I may have it too. Its seems too bizarre to be true but I think it is. I would be very interested to hear from anyone who knows anything about this or sufferes similar symptoms. http://www.morgellons.org/ <http://www.morgellons.org/> Adrienne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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