Cow's Milk Necessary? (Was: Halatosis in child)

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PS you asked where the Asians get their Calcium? They get it from

*TOFU or Soy-Bean Curds*. Soybeans have extremely high amounts of

Calcium and high amounts of Protein; esp. if eaten in moderation.

 

The Soybean is also high in Omegas. *Northern White Beans high CA*.

 

Actually from what I understand The Soybean is the only known Bean on

Earth that has *Complete Protein* usu. only found in Animals

products; such as Milk eggs fish meat poultry etc. That is why some

call Soy-Beans a Miracle Food. I do not understand what the problem

with Soybenas is...alot of foods have Phyto-Estrogens(plant-hormones).

 

Red-Clover leaf tea is brimming with Phyto-Estrogens lots more than

in Soy mIlk and they sell Red-Clover extract for a " pretty penny " .

 

to Doc: I thought Women; which I am; needed more Estrogen as they get

older not less; so what is the problem with me drinking Soy-Milk?

 

Which is better Cow's Milk and Cheese or SoyMilk and Tofu?

 

You say Cow's Milk is not good and neither is Soymilk.

 

What is your opinion on eating Eggs as a Meat; Poultry; Fish

substitute? So what Milk is good for a long term Vegetarian such as

myself; since I do not eat any *Meat Fish Fowl or Crustacean* at all

under any circumstances due to respect for the Animals.

 

I tried living on just raw fruits and veggies once and got

VERY " ill " ; (lost too much weight; became weak and underweight).

 

I cannot afford to jeoporadize my Health with a low-protein diet.

 

I guess Nut-Milks are a good Alternative but very expensive!

 

Nut-butters sell for soemthing like $10 a small jar.

 

Nuts themselves are OUTRAGEOUS in price.

 

I eat a lot of Natural Peanut Butter. Suggestions welcome. Any

information on *Sprouts* welcome also.

 

As the Soils become depleted are food has less and less Nutrients.

 

This is one of the reasons I recommend and do take Vitamin/Min. pills.

 

As the Air becomes more polluted and are waters; we have to take more

and more Nutrients and eat better diets such as Nuts; grapes; wheat-

germ and Natural Health Foods like these to compensate.

 

This is why the Dairy industries add *Vitamins A amd D to Milk* to

compensate for the poor growing conditions of the Cow's forage. Anne.

 

 

 

 

 

herbal remedies , Trina Massengill

<laurel1614 wrote:

>

> Vitamin D is fortified in milk, it does not occur naturally.

Sunshine and dark, green vegetables provide our bodies with adequate

amounts. Calcium, that our bodies easily absorb, occurs in beans,

nuts, seeds, dark green vegetables, blackstrap molasses, maple syrup,

and in numerous other foods you should be consuming everyday. A

teaspoon of blackstrap molasses is suppose to contain 40 percent of

our daily calcium needs. And that's without the growth hormones and

antibiotics! As was posted a few days ago, sugar leaches out the

minerals in our bodies. All those sodas Americans drink could easily

be responsible for health problems. Not to mention the problems with

consuming too much caffeine. It's amazing that in Asian countries

where cow milk is rarely consumed every one isn't falling over from

brittle bones or walking around with deformed legs. Where do they

get their calcium??? The only place I hear anything good about cow

milk is from the dairy industry. Who, by

> the way, is in trouble for false advertising. It was just too

much for them to claim milk as a weight loss beverage.

>

> Of course, this is just my opinons and research.

>

> Anne <annroc2004 wrote: Hi

Raine: that is your opinion and I respect it.

>

> My opinion is that some children need extra Milk for Calcium.

>

> The other good thing about Cow;s Milk is it has *Vitmain D*.

>

> Vitamin D ia an extrmely important Vitamin that is " Essential " .

>

> Without adequate Calcium a child could get " Ricketts " .

>

> " Ricketts is a Nutritional Disorder where the Legs do not grow in

> a " bow-legged pattern " instead of straigt and long.

>

> *Ricketts can be prevented 100% with adequate *Calcium and Vit. D*>

>

> *Ricketts is more prevelant in 3rd world countries.

>

> summary: *Cow's Milk prevents Ricketts; that's why I recommend it;

esp.

> for Growing Children; Ricketts is Irreversible once gotton.

>

> There is a child in my neighborhood right now with " bowed legs "

also

> called Ricketts. Apparnttly the Mother does not give child cow;s

milk.

>

> I am not here to argure just to state facts.

>

> Fact: A Lack of Calcium and Vitamin D can cause " Bowed legs and

other

> bone and leg deformities. I even recommend it for adults.

>

> But remember this: this is an open foum and I state my ideas.

Anne.---

> In herbal remedies , Raine <rainelovesj@> wrote:

> >

> > Cow's milk is NOT necessary for anyone except baby cows.

> >

> > -Raine

> >

> > Anne wrote:

> > > Your child may be lactose intolerant; he needs Cow's milk for

> health

> > > bones though.

> > > so don't avoid dairy altogherher.

> > >

> >

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When I asked about Asians and their calcium sources I was just trying to make a point. Doc, I am also curious about your opinion on cow milk versus soy. If your interested in raw foods www.rawfoodtalk.com is a wonderful website for the beginner. It has inspired me to pursue the diet. When I get a dehydrator I want to give it a try.Anne <annroc2004 wrote: PS you asked where the Asians get their Calcium? They get it from *TOFU or Soy-Bean Curds*. Soybeans have extremely high amounts of Calcium and high amounts of Protein;

esp. if eaten in moderation. The Soybean is also high in Omegas. *Northern White Beans high CA*. Actually from what I understand The Soybean is the only known Bean on Earth that has *Complete Protein* usu. only found in Animals products; such as Milk eggs fish meat poultry etc. That is why some call Soy-Beans a Miracle Food. I do not understand what the problem with Soybenas is...alot of foods have Phyto-Estrogens(plant-hormones). Red-Clover leaf tea is brimming with Phyto-Estrogens lots more than in Soy mIlk and they sell Red-Clover extract for a "pretty penny". to Doc: I thought Women; which I am; needed more Estrogen as they get older not less; so what is the problem with me drinking Soy-Milk? Which is better Cow's Milk and Cheese or SoyMilk and Tofu? You say Cow's Milk is not good and neither is Soymilk. What is your opinion on eating Eggs as a Meat; Poultry; Fish

substitute? So what Milk is good for a long term Vegetarian such as myself; since I do not eat any *Meat Fish Fowl or Crustacean* at all under any circumstances due to respect for the Animals. I tried living on just raw fruits and veggies once and got VERY "ill"; (lost too much weight; became weak and underweight). I cannot afford to jeoporadize my Health with a low-protein diet. I guess Nut-Milks are a good Alternative but very expensive! Nut-butters sell for soemthing like $10 a small jar. Nuts themselves are OUTRAGEOUS in price. I eat a lot of Natural Peanut Butter. Suggestions welcome. Any information on *Sprouts* welcome also. As the Soils become depleted are food has less and less Nutrients. This is one of the reasons I recommend and do take Vitamin/Min. pills. As the Air becomes more polluted and are waters; we have to take more and more Nutrients and

eat better diets such as Nuts; grapes; wheat- germ and Natural Health Foods like these to compensate. This is why the Dairy industries add *Vitamins A amd D to Milk* to compensate for the poor growing conditions of the Cow's forage. Anne. herbal remedies , Trina Massengill <laurel1614 wrote: > > Vitamin D is fortified in milk, it does not occur naturally. Sunshine and dark, green vegetables provide our bodies with adequate amounts. Calcium, that our bodies easily absorb, occurs in beans, nuts, seeds, dark green vegetables, blackstrap molasses, maple syrup, and in numerous other foods you should be consuming everyday. A teaspoon of blackstrap molasses is suppose to contain 40 percent of our daily calcium needs. And that's without the growth hormones and antibiotics! As was posted a few

days ago, sugar leaches out the minerals in our bodies. All those sodas Americans drink could easily be responsible for health problems. Not to mention the problems with consuming too much caffeine. It's amazing that in Asian countries where cow milk is rarely consumed every one isn't falling over from brittle bones or walking around with deformed legs. Where do they get their calcium??? The only place I hear anything good about cow milk is from the dairy industry. Who, by > the way, is in trouble for false advertising. It was just too much for them to claim milk as a weight loss beverage. > > Of course, this is just my opinons and research. > > Anne <annroc2004 wrote: Hi Raine: that is your opinion and I respect it. > > My opinion is that some children need extra Milk for Calcium. > > The other good thing

about Cow;s Milk is it has *Vitmain D*. > > Vitamin D ia an extrmely important Vitamin that is "Essential". > > Without adequate Calcium a child could get "Ricketts". > > "Ricketts is a Nutritional Disorder where the Legs do not grow in > a "bow-legged pattern" instead of straigt and long. > > *Ricketts can be prevented 100% with adequate *Calcium and Vit. D*> > > *Ricketts is more prevelant in 3rd world countries. > > summary: *Cow's Milk prevents Ricketts; that's why I recommend it; esp. > for Growing Children; Ricketts is Irreversible once gotton. > > There is a child in my neighborhood right now with "bowed legs" also > called Ricketts. Apparnttly the Mother does not give child cow;s milk. > > I am not here to argure just to state facts. > > Fact: A Lack of Calcium and

Vitamin D can cause "Bowed legs and other > bone and leg deformities. I even recommend it for adults. > > But remember this: this is an open foum and I state my ideas. Anne.--- > In herbal remedies , Raine <rainelovesj@> wrote: > > > > Cow's milk is NOT necessary for anyone except baby cows. > > > > -Raine > > > > Anne wrote: > > > Your child may be lactose intolerant; he needs Cow's milk for > health > > > bones though. > > > so don't avoid dairy altogherher. > > > > > > > -- > > Join our club and swap paperback books for FREE - PaperBackSwap.com > > <http://www.paperbackswap.com/index.php?n=2 & r_by=raineluvsj@> > > > > > > > > > > Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Messenger with Voice. >

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Visit www.recipe.net.org/health/recipes/recipkit/raw_nut_butter.htm for nut and seed butter recipes. Don't know if it's the BEST way but it sounds good.I just assumed Cows' milk did not have vitamin D because it is fortified with it. I suppose the pasteurization process makes this necessary. After doing research on it though I found that in some cases the levels of Vit. D present are toxic. Of course, this was for pasteurized milk, not raw. I agree that if you do drink milk it is only useful if it is raw. Visit the websites I posted for B12 and other milk info. If you don't mind telling me, are you vegetarian for health or ethical reasons?Anne <annroc2004 wrote: Hi Trina: Question: "What's the best way to prepare *Nut-Butters*? I did a quick a quick search on the USDA Nutrient Database which is a US gov. sponsored Scientific Data Base of most Food and Nutrients. According to my search; *Cows' Milk and Goats' Milk have some naturally occuring *Vitamin D* but Sheeps Milk has no Vitamin D. (Buffalo Milk also has no Vitamin D) All four Milks; Goats; Cows and Sheeps and Buffalo Milk have *Adequate amounts of Vitamin A; Calcium and Adequate Protein. all the Milks also have some *Vitamin B12* in the items Naturally. I understand that the *Vitamin A contents of Milk* depend on the Quality of the Forage. For example; Summer Butter has lots more Vitamin A than Winter butter; this is because when the Cow

grazes on the Summer grasses she gets more Vitamin A; the Hay in winter has much less Vitamin A. All Milk even Nut and Soy contain good sources of Complete Protein. So my Conclusion is: *Milk is a good avail. source of Nutrients; whether that be Cows' Milk; Sheeps' Milk; Goats' Milk; Soy Milk; and/ or Nu-t Milks such as Almond or Walnut Milks or Nut-Butters. Peanuts themselves are a high source of Protein and Calcium. The only Nutrient I can not get from Veggies is *Vitmain B12*. Note: *Organic Raw Milk does NOT have added Hormones etc.* See my point is this: As a Vegetarian I do not eat any Meat Fish Fowl and this has been my lifestyle for over 35 years. So if I did not eat any Meat Fish or Fowl or eggs or Milk...wouldn't I be malnourished? Comments and reply welcome. I would like to concentrate on Nut-Milks. herbal remedies , Trina Massengill <laurel1614 wrote: > > Vitamin D is fortified in milk, it does not occur naturally. Sunshine and dark, green vegetables provide our bodies with adequate amounts. Calcium, that our bodies easily absorb, occurs in beans, nuts, seeds, dark green vegetables, blackstrap molasses, maple syrup, and in numerous other foods you should be consuming everyday. A teaspoon of blackstrap molasses is suppose to contain 40 percent of our daily calcium needs. And that's without the growth hormones and antibiotics! As was posted a few days ago, sugar leaches out the minerals in our bodies. All those sodas Americans drink could easily be responsible for health problems. Not to mention the problems with consuming too much caffeine. It's amazing that in Asian countries where cow milk is

rarely consumed every one isn't falling over from brittle bones or walking around with deformed legs. Where do they get their calcium??? The only place I hear anything good about cow milk is from the dairy industry. Who, by > the way, is in trouble for false advertising. It was just too much for them to claim milk as a weight loss beverage. > > Of course, this is just my opinons and research. > > Anne <annroc2004 wrote: Hi Raine: that is your opinion and I respect it. > > My opinion is that some children need extra Milk for Calcium. > > The other good thing about Cow;s Milk is it has *Vitmain D*. > > Vitamin D ia an extrmely important Vitamin that is "Essential". > > Without adequate Calcium a child could get "Ricketts". > > "Ricketts is a Nutritional Disorder where the Legs do

not grow in > a "bow-legged pattern" instead of straigt and long. > > *Ricketts can be prevented 100% with adequate *Calcium and Vit. D*> > > *Ricketts is more prevelant in 3rd world countries. > > summary: *Cow's Milk prevents Ricketts; that's why I recommend it; esp. > for Growing Children; Ricketts is Irreversible once gotton. > > There is a child in my neighborhood right now with "bowed legs" also > called Ricketts. Apparnttly the Mother does not give child cow;s milk. > > I am not here to argure just to state facts. > > Fact: A Lack of Calcium and Vitamin D can cause "Bowed legs and other > bone and leg deformities. I even recommend it for adults. > > But remember this: this is an open foum and I state my ideas. Anne.--- > In herbal remedies , Raine <rainelovesj@> wrote: > > > > Cow's milk is NOT necessary for anyone except baby cows. > > > > -Raine > > > > Anne wrote: > > > Your child may be lactose intolerant; he needs Cow's milk for > health > > > bones though. > > > so don't avoid dairy altogherher. > > > > > > > -- > > Join our club and swap paperback books for FREE - PaperBackSwap.com > > <http://www.paperbackswap.com/index.php?n=2 & r_by=raineluvsj@> > > > > > > > > >

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Hi Trina,

 

I'm also researching the raw diet. Just a matter of time now...

 

-Raine

 

P.S. You should be able to find a dehydrator for $5-10 at any thrift

store.

 

Trina Massengill wrote:

 

 

When I asked about Asians and their calcium sources I was just

trying to make a point. Doc, I am also curious about your opinion on

cow milk versus soy. If your interested in raw foods

www.rawfoodtalk.com is a wonderful website for the beginner. It has

inspired me to pursue the diet. When I get a dehydrator I want to give

it a try.

 

 

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