Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 My 7yo son got all of his shots before I knew any better-series stopped about 2 yrs ago. His next ones are due in a couple years so thanks doc for the info about religious exemptions--I WILL use that very FIRMLY! Also is there a way to get a yearly license for your dogs without having those yearly shots or a way to get out of those? Also, can you give them garlic daily instead of heartworm prevention??? Funny thing about homeschooling-you can educate them on good health because they are only around the food you buy for the house---my son yesterday went to the store with me...he wanted some cereal (organic of course) and milk-at first. He them says to me " you know mom, I think i'll just eat the dry cereal as a snack because regular milk is not that good for me " --I asked him if he was sure and he said yes. He normally doesn't drink milk-haven't bought it in months.(he's speaking or organic cow milk). So I told him I would make some almond milk from Valorie's raw foods cook book--now he's exited. I guess it stuck in his head when I said that! He's very health food conscious- especially about eating organic--not too bad for 7yo!! LOL Marci herbal remedies , " Dr. Ian Shillington " <DocShillington wrote: > > Wellllllllllllll, let me put it this way hon. > > The one state where they might actually take your children away from you if you refuse vaccinations is Illinois. This state government is nuts and is completely owned by Big Pharma. In this case, rather than trying to fight the system, the only solution would be to move to a saner state like Montana or New Mexico or Idaho. Many other states, like UT or Florida have religious exemptions that can be taken advantage of. > > When I get into situations like this, I puff up like a Blow Fish and get very uppity about it all. If that doesn't work (and it usually does , your other options are to go legal and really pull in an attorney who's not afraid to take on the system or move. That's about it. Don't be afraid to make a noise about this, as it is your child's health and future that is at stake here. > > Then there's the subject of education and the quality of American Schools nowadays. But that IS another topic. I always recommend home schooling. Always!!! > > In Health, Freedom, and Love, > > Doc > > Doc Shillington > 727-447-5282 > Doc > - > LegacyManor > herbal remedies > Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:48 AM > Herbal Remedies - Childhood vacs > > > > My dtr is expecting soon and since this subject has come up, I am concerned about the vacs they want to give the kids. Will my dtr legally be able to refuse these vacs or will the docs liken the refusal to child neglect? And most vacs are 'required' to enter school, how does one handle that?? > > > > Since she also wants to deliver in the hospital, are there any other things we need to be aware of that they may give the baby without express parental permission??? > > > > Also, my dog received a rabies vac when she was a pup, and my homeopath vet says that the fly bite seizures she has now is a result of that vac. Ugh!! > > > > Thanks, > > Kathy > > > > http://www.LegacyManorFarm.com > > " The way food used to taste " -- ---------- > > herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Dr. Ian Shillington > Tuesday, July 04, 2006 7:33 PM > herbal remedies > Re: Herbal Remedies - So what is really necissary?? Attn: Doc > > > > Dear Jamie, > > Not toooo volatile for HR. ;-) > > I recommend skipping the Vaccines altogether. > > I've had to handle far tooooo many autism cases in children as a result of them. > > Skip 'em all and just feed your kids right interspersed with highest quality herbal remedies when necessary. > > In Health, Freedom, and Love, > > Doc > > Doc Shillington > 727-447-5282 > Doc > > - > > dontfencemein1979 > > herbal remedies > > Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:12 PM > > Herbal Remedies - So what is really necissary?? Attn: Doc > > > > I am planning on making an appointment for my two small children here > in the next week or so with a new pediatrician. It has been a while > since their last ped. visit. I have become slightly aware that some > vaccines arent necissary, and their is so much conflicting information > out there, that I dont have time to go through it all. I also know > there is BIG debate about being " responsible parents " vs. side effects. > > Because the issue of their immunization records will come up (which > the one is sooo " behind " in), I need some information about which > vaccines are REALLY necissary and which are not. I would especially > like Doc.'s input on this. Another reason is that we are expecting > again this September and I have heard people talk unfavorably of the > vit. K. I don't want to appear completely ignorant, but nothing is out > there to " prove " or regulate what information goes on these sites. > > Can someone give me some GOOD information (websites, books etc), or > arguments, personal experiences, and such about this subject? Hope > this isn't an extremely volitle subject. > > TIA > --Jamie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 I agree with the doc. I was told by my school system that my oldest son couldn't return back to school after christmas break unless he had started his hepatitis vaccination, which I kept putting off because I didn't see the need for a 14-yr old to have that vaccination. However, after receiving that letter we started his vaccination. Six months later he was diagnosed with aplastic anemia. No one will say it was the vaccination, but there were several parents taking their kids to the same hospital with aplastic anemia and we all could contribute their diagnosis to around the time they started those nasty shots. My other three kids have not and will NEVER have that vaccination. The school did what the doc is saying here. They tried to tell me it was the law, I had to get them done. But parents at the hospital told me differently. They all but refused to give me the religious form (which I put exactly why my kids weren't going to get the vaccination on there) until I got in her face and got mean. I asked her how she would feel if her kid got a nasty incurable disease shortly after having the vaccination and had to live with the fact that she would be bury him soon. Her mouth dropped wide open and she pulled out the form. I personally think the school system should be sued for not informing us that we do have rights and we do not legally have to give our kids those nasty vaccinations and if I had been rich I would have sued them just to get the word out to other parents that WE do have a CHOICE. So....stand up to your school secretaries and tell them you know what your rights are!!! I wish I had that knowledge before giving my oldest that shot. debbie herbal remedies [herbal remedies ]On Behalf Of Dr. Ian ShillingtonWednesday, July 05, 2006 2:05 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Childhood vacs Wellllllllllllll, let me put it this way hon. The one state where they might actually take your children away from you if you refuse vaccinations is Illinois. This state government is nuts and is completely owned by Big Pharma. In this case, rather than trying to fight the system, the only solution would be to move to a saner state like Montana or New Mexico or Idaho. Many other states, like UT or Florida have religious exemptions that can be taken advantage of. When I get into situations like this, I puff up like a Blow Fish and get very uppity about it all. If that doesn't work (and it usually does , your other options are to go legal and really pull in an attorney who's not afraid to take on the system or move. That's about it. Don't be afraid to make a noise about this, as it is your child's health and future that is at stake here. Then there's the subject of education and the quality of American Schools nowadays. But that IS another topic. I always recommend home schooling. Always!!! In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - LegacyManor herbal remedies Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:48 AM Herbal Remedies - Childhood vacs My dtr is expecting soon and since this subject has come up, I am concerned about the vacs they want to give the kids. Will my dtr legally be able to refuse these vacs or will the docs liken the refusal to child neglect? And most vacs are 'required' to enter school, how does one handle that?? Since she also wants to deliver in the hospital, are there any other things we need to be aware of that they may give the baby without express parental permission??? Also, my dog received a rabies vac when she was a pup, and my homeopath vet says that the fly bite seizures she has now is a result of that vac. Ugh!! Thanks, Kathy http://www.LegacyManorFarm.com "The way food used to taste" herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Dr. Ian ShillingtonTuesday, July 04, 2006 7:33 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - So what is really necissary?? Attn: Doc Dear Jamie, Not toooo volatile for HR. ;-) I recommend skipping the Vaccines altogether. I've had to handle far tooooo many autism cases in children as a result of them. Skip 'em all and just feed your kids right interspersed with highest quality herbal remedies when necessary. In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - dontfencemein1979 herbal remedies Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:12 PM Herbal Remedies - So what is really necissary?? Attn: Doc I am planning on making an appointment for my two small children here in the next week or so with a new pediatrician. It has been a while since their last ped. visit. I have become slightly aware that some vaccines arent necissary, and their is so much conflicting information out there, that I dont have time to go through it all. I also know there is BIG debate about being "responsible parents" vs. side effects.Because the issue of their immunization records will come up (which the one is sooo "behind" in), I need some information about which vaccines are REALLY necissary and which are not. I would especially like Doc.'s input on this. Another reason is that we are expecting again this September and I have heard people talk unfavorably of the vit. K. I don't want to appear completely ignorant, but nothing is out there to "prove" or regulate what information goes on these sites.Can someone give me some GOOD information (websites, books etc), or arguments, personal experiences, and such about this subject? Hope this isn't an extremely volitle subject.TIA--Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 IM so sorry deb.. I truly am.. Im sitting here in tears because of how we are treated.. other countries do NOT force vaccines.. what a dang shame.. I really think we the people can change things if we all speak with one voice right to congress etc. , ..It’s a hard row to hoe, but so many don’t belieive how dangerous these vaccines are.. Again Im sorry hon, ty for shariing. - Debbie Beardshear herbal remedies Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:50 AM RE: Herbal Remedies - Childhood vacs I agree with the doc. I was told by my school system that my oldest son couldn't return back to school after christmas break unless he had started his hepatitis vaccination, which I kept putting off because I didn't see the need for a 14-yr old to have that vaccination. However, after receiving that letter we started his vaccination. Six months later he was diagnosed with aplastic anemia. No one will say it was the vaccination, but there were several parents taking their kids to the same hospital with aplastic anemia and we all could contribute their diagnosis to around the time they started those nasty shots. My other three kids have not and will NEVER have that vaccination. The school did what the doc is saying here. They tried to tell me it was the law, I had to get them done. But parents at the hospital told me differently. They all but refused to give me the religious form (which I put exactly why my kids weren't going to get the vaccination on there) until I got in her face and got mean. I asked her how she would feel if her kid got a nasty incurable disease shortly after having the vaccination and had to live with the fact that she would be bury him soon. Her mouth dropped wide open and she pulled out the form. I personally think the school system should be sued for not informing us that we do have rights and we do not legally have to give our kids those nasty vaccinations and if I had been rich I would have sued them just to get the word out to other parents that WE do have a CHOICE. So....stand up to your school secretaries and tell them you know what your rights are!!! I wish I had that knowledge before giving my oldest that shot. debbie herbal remedies [herbal remedies ]On Behalf Of Dr. Ian ShillingtonWednesday, July 05, 2006 2:05 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Childhood vacs Wellllllllllllll, let me put it this way hon. The one state where they might actually take your children away from you if you refuse vaccinations is Illinois. This state government is nuts and is completely owned by Big Pharma. In this case, rather than trying to fight the system, the only solution would be to move to a saner state like Montana or New Mexico or Idaho. Many other states, like UT or Florida have religious exemptions that can be taken advantage of. When I get into situations like this, I puff up like a Blow Fish and get very uppity about it all. If that doesn't work (and it usually does , your other options are to go legal and really pull in an attorney who's not afraid to take on the system or move. That's about it. Don't be afraid to make a noise about this, as it is your child's health and future that is at stake here. Then there's the subject of education and the quality of American Schools nowadays. But that IS another topic. I always recommend home schooling. Always!!! In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - LegacyManor herbal remedies Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:48 AM Herbal Remedies - Childhood vacs My dtr is expecting soon and since this subject has come up, I am concerned about the vacs they want to give the kids. Will my dtr legally be able to refuse these vacs or will the docs liken the refusal to child neglect? And most vacs are 'required' to enter school, how does one handle that?? Since she also wants to deliver in the hospital, are there any other things we need to be aware of that they may give the baby without express parental permission??? Also, my dog received a rabies vac when she was a pup, and my homeopath vet says that the fly bite seizures she has now is a result of that vac. Ugh!! Thanks, Kathy http://www.LegacyManorFarm.com "The way food used to taste" herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Dr. Ian ShillingtonTuesday, July 04, 2006 7:33 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - So what is really necissary?? Attn: Doc Dear Jamie, Not toooo volatile for HR. ;-) I recommend skipping the Vaccines altogether. I've had to handle far tooooo many autism cases in children as a result of them. Skip 'em all and just feed your kids right interspersed with highest quality herbal remedies when necessary. In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - dontfencemein1979 herbal remedies Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:12 PM Herbal Remedies - So what is really necissary?? Attn: Doc I am planning on making an appointment for my two small children here in the next week or so with a new pediatrician. It has been a while since their last ped. visit. I have become slightly aware that some vaccines arent necissary, and their is so much conflicting information out there, that I dont have time to go through it all. I also know there is BIG debate about being "responsible parents" vs. side effects.Because the issue of their immunization records will come up (which the one is sooo "behind" in), I need some information about which vaccines are REALLY necissary and which are not. I would especially like Doc.'s input on this. Another reason is that we are expecting again this September and I have heard people talk unfavorably of the vit. K. I don't want to appear completely ignorant, but nothing is out there to "prove" or regulate what information goes on these sites.Can someone give me some GOOD information (websites, books etc), or arguments, personal experiences, and such about this subject? Hope this isn't an extremely volitle subject.TIA--Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 I hear you Deb. Along with Codex, this is a major battle we face. Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Debbie Beardshear herbal remedies Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:50 AM RE: Herbal Remedies - Childhood vacs I agree with the doc. I was told by my school system that my oldest son couldn't return back to school after christmas break unless he had started his hepatitis vaccination, which I kept putting off because I didn't see the need for a 14-yr old to have that vaccination. However, after receiving that letter we started his vaccination. Six months later he was diagnosed with aplastic anemia. No one will say it was the vaccination, but there were several parents taking their kids to the same hospital with aplastic anemia and we all could contribute their diagnosis to around the time they started those nasty shots. My other three kids have not and will NEVER have that vaccination. The school did what the doc is saying here. They tried to tell me it was the law, I had to get them done. But parents at the hospital told me differently. They all but refused to give me the religious form (which I put exactly why my kids weren't going to get the vaccination on there) until I got in her face and got mean. I asked her how she would feel if her kid got a nasty incurable disease shortly after having the vaccination and had to live with the fact that she would be bury him soon. Her mouth dropped wide open and she pulled out the form. I personally think the school system should be sued for not informing us that we do have rights and we do not legally have to give our kids those nasty vaccinations and if I had been rich I would have sued them just to get the word out to other parents that WE do have a CHOICE. So....stand up to your school secretaries and tell them you know what your rights are!!! I wish I had that knowledge before giving my oldest that shot. debbie herbal remedies [herbal remedies ]On Behalf Of Dr. Ian ShillingtonWednesday, July 05, 2006 2:05 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Childhood vacs Wellllllllllllll, let me put it this way hon. The one state where they might actually take your children away from you if you refuse vaccinations is Illinois. This state government is nuts and is completely owned by Big Pharma. In this case, rather than trying to fight the system, the only solution would be to move to a saner state like Montana or New Mexico or Idaho. Many other states, like UT or Florida have religious exemptions that can be taken advantage of. When I get into situations like this, I puff up like a Blow Fish and get very uppity about it all. If that doesn't work (and it usually does , your other options are to go legal and really pull in an attorney who's not afraid to take on the system or move. That's about it. Don't be afraid to make a noise about this, as it is your child's health and future that is at stake here. Then there's the subject of education and the quality of American Schools nowadays. But that IS another topic. I always recommend home schooling. Always!!! In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - LegacyManor herbal remedies Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:48 AM Herbal Remedies - Childhood vacs My dtr is expecting soon and since this subject has come up, I am concerned about the vacs they want to give the kids. Will my dtr legally be able to refuse these vacs or will the docs liken the refusal to child neglect? And most vacs are 'required' to enter school, how does one handle that?? Since she also wants to deliver in the hospital, are there any other things we need to be aware of that they may give the baby without express parental permission??? Also, my dog received a rabies vac when she was a pup, and my homeopath vet says that the fly bite seizures she has now is a result of that vac. Ugh!! Thanks, Kathy http://www.LegacyManorFarm.com "The way food used to taste" herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Dr. Ian ShillingtonTuesday, July 04, 2006 7:33 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - So what is really necissary?? Attn: Doc Dear Jamie, Not toooo volatile for HR. ;-) I recommend skipping the Vaccines altogether. I've had to handle far tooooo many autism cases in children as a result of them. Skip 'em all and just feed your kids right interspersed with highest quality herbal remedies when necessary. In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - dontfencemein1979 herbal remedies Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:12 PM Herbal Remedies - So what is really necissary?? Attn: Doc I am planning on making an appointment for my two small children here in the next week or so with a new pediatrician. It has been a while since their last ped. visit. I have become slightly aware that some vaccines arent necissary, and their is so much conflicting information out there, that I dont have time to go through it all. I also know there is BIG debate about being "responsible parents" vs. side effects.Because the issue of their immunization records will come up (which the one is sooo "behind" in), I need some information about which vaccines are REALLY necissary and which are not. I would especially like Doc.'s input on this. Another reason is that we are expecting again this September and I have heard people talk unfavorably of the vit. K. I don't want to appear completely ignorant, but nothing is out there to "prove" or regulate what information goes on these sites.Can someone give me some GOOD information (websites, books etc), or arguments, personal experiences, and such about this subject? Hope this isn't an extremely volitle subject.TIA--Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 You rock Girl. ;-) This is one of those we really need to get the word out. Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Marci herbal remedies Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:42 AM Herbal Remedies - Childhood vacs My 7yo son got all of his shots before I knew any better-series stopped about 2 yrs ago. His next ones are due in a couple years so thanks doc for the info about religious exemptions--I WILL use that very FIRMLY! Also is there a way to get a yearly license for your dogs without having those yearly shots or a way to get out of those? Also, can you give them garlic daily instead of heartworm prevention???Funny thing about homeschooling-you can educate them on good health because they are only around the food you buy for the house---my son yesterday went to the store with me...he wanted some cereal (organic of course) and milk-at first. He them says to me "you know mom, I think i'll just eat the dry cereal as a snack because regular milk is not that good for me" --I asked him if he was sure and he said yes. He normally doesn't drink milk-haven't bought it in months.(he's speaking or organic cow milk). So I told him I would make some almond milk from Valorie's raw foods cook book--now he's exited. I guess it stuck in his head when I said that! He's very health food conscious-especially about eating organic--not too bad for 7yo!! LOLMarciherbal remedies , "Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote:>> Wellllllllllllll, let me put it this way hon.> > The one state where they might actually take your children away from you if you refuse vaccinations is Illinois. This state government is nuts and is completely owned by Big Pharma. In this case, rather than trying to fight the system, the only solution would be to move to a saner state like Montana or New Mexico or Idaho. Many other states, like UT or Florida have religious exemptions that can be taken advantage of.> > When I get into situations like this, I puff up like a Blow Fish and get very uppity about it all. If that doesn't work (and it usually does , your other options are to go legal and really pull in an attorney who's not afraid to take on the system or move. That's about it. Don't be afraid to make a noise about this, as it is your child's health and future that is at stake here.> > Then there's the subject of education and the quality of American Schools nowadays. But that IS another topic. I always recommend home schooling. Always!!!> > In Health, Freedom, and Love,> > Doc> > Doc Shillington> 727-447-5282> Doc - > LegacyManor > herbal remedies > Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:48 AM> Herbal Remedies - Childhood vacs> > > > My dtr is expecting soon and since this subject has come up, I am concerned about the vacs they want to give the kids. Will my dtr legally be able to refuse these vacs or will the docs liken the refusal to child neglect? And most vacs are 'required' to enter school, how does one handle that??> > > > Since she also wants to deliver in the hospital, are there any other things we need to be aware of that they may give the baby without express parental permission???> > > > Also, my dog received a rabies vac when she was a pup, and my homeopath vet says that the fly bite seizures she has now is a result of that vac. Ugh!!> > > > Thanks,> > Kathy> > > > http://www.LegacyManorFarm.com> > "The way food used to taste"> > > > > > > --> > herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Dr. Ian Shillington> Tuesday, July 04, 2006 7:33 PM> herbal remedies > Re: Herbal Remedies - So what is really necissary?? Attn: Doc> > > > Dear Jamie,> > Not toooo volatile for HR. ;-)> > I recommend skipping the Vaccines altogether.> > I've had to handle far tooooo many autism cases in children as a result of them.> > Skip 'em all and just feed your kids right interspersed with highest quality herbal remedies when necessary.> > In Health, Freedom, and Love,> > Doc> > Doc Shillington> 727-447-5282> Doc > - > > dontfencemein1979 > > herbal remedies > > Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:12 PM> > Herbal Remedies - So what is really necissary?? Attn: Doc> > > > I am planning on making an appointment for my two small children here > in the next week or so with a new pediatrician. It has been a while > since their last ped. visit. I have become slightly aware that some > vaccines arent necissary, and their is so much conflicting information > out there, that I dont have time to go through it all. I also know > there is BIG debate about being "responsible parents" vs. side effects.> > Because the issue of their immunization records will come up (which > the one is sooo "behind" in), I need some information about which > vaccines are REALLY necissary and which are not. I would especially > like Doc.'s input on this. Another reason is that we are expecting > again this September and I have heard people talk unfavorably of the > vit. K. I don't want to appear completely ignorant, but nothing is out > there to "prove" or regulate what information goes on these sites.> > Can someone give me some GOOD information (websites, books etc), or > arguments, personal experiences, and such about this subject? Hope > this isn't an extremely volitle subject.> > TIA> --Jamie> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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