OT - Pet with Kidney stone question

[Guest guest]

Hello all again,

 

If anyone knows of a natural vet

list like this I would appreciate the info so I won’t have to keep

bothering you all. In the meantime if anyone would care to help, my Rott (dog) has

been bleeding while urinating and squatting quite a bit and straining like she

has to urinate. Took her to my homeopath vet and she put her on cranberry

pills. After 2 weeks of this, she was still bleeding and straining and not

making it outside to urinate. Vet said she needed an x-ray and since she didn’t

do them I had to take the dog to my regular vet. The x-ray revealed a kidney

stone the size of a golf ball. This vet sent her home with a ‘special’

bag of dog food that is supposed to determine whether the stone can be

dissolved or will need surgery to remove. Along with the food, she is to take

Clavamox twice a day. Clavamox is an antibiotic and won’t help with

dissolving the stone so I haven’t given her any. And I don’t see

what could be in this dog food that will dissolve the stone unless it is all

the ‘additives’ which look like chemicals to me.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions to

dissolve this stone and avoid surgery??

 

Thanks,

Kathy

 

 

http://www.LegacyManorFarm.com

" The

way food used to taste "

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I usually suggest lots of hydrangea root

along with magnesium to open relax the spasms that go along with this condition

for humans. I would also not recommend feeding the dog any dry dog

food because most of them have preservatives and chemicals that cause the

condition in the first place. Natural food or organic dog food is the way

to go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of LegacyManor

Wednesday, August 02, 2006

6:37 AM

To:

herbal remedies

Herbal Remedies - OT -

Pet with Kidney stone question

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello all again,

 

If anyone knows of a natural vet list like this I would

appreciate the info so I won’t have to keep bothering you all. In the

meantime if anyone would care to help, my Rott (dog) has been bleeding while

urinating and squatting quite a bit and straining like she has to urinate. Took

her to my homeopath vet and she put her on cranberry pills. After 2 weeks of

this, she was still bleeding and straining and not making it outside to urinate.

Vet said she needed an x-ray and since she didn’t do them I had to take

the dog to my regular vet. The x-ray revealed a kidney stone the size of a golf

ball. This vet sent her home with a ‘special’ bag of dog food that

is supposed to determine whether the stone can be dissolved or will need

surgery to remove. Along with the food, she is to take Clavamox twice a day.

Clavamox is an antibiotic and won’t help with dissolving the stone so I

haven’t given her any. And I don’t see what could be in this dog

food that will dissolve the stone unless it is all the ‘additives’

which look like chemicals to me.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions to dissolve this stone and avoid

surgery??

 

Thanks,

Kathy

 

 

http://www.LegacyManorFarm.com

 

" The way food used to

taste "

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sharlene, so don’t feed the ‘special’

dry food???? They do get a lot of raw chicken and burger in their diets. Can I find

the hydrangea root in a health food store?

 

Kathy

 

 

http://www.LegacyManorFarm.com

" The

way food used to taste "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Sharlene Miyamura

Wednesday, August 02, 2006

10:15 PM

herbal remedies

RE: Herbal Remedies - OT

- Pet with Kidney stone question

 

 

 

 

 

 

I usually suggest lots of hydrangea root along

with magnesium to open relax the spasms that go along with this condition for

humans. I would also not recommend feeding the dog any dry dog food

because most of them have preservatives and chemicals that cause the condition

in the first place. Natural food or organic dog food is the way to

go.

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, the health food store in the supplement section should have

it. Open the the capsules of ground hydrangea root into your pet's

meal along with some powdered magnesium if possible. You could also

make a tea if they have hydrangea root in the bulk section, cool and

have your pet drink it. While you're at it, combine cornsilk or

marshmallow to soothe the urinary tract.

 

No dry dog food unless it is free from preservatives (difficult to

find, I've heard Flint River Ranch is good). Cook brown rice and

toss some 1/2 cooked veggie, olive oil, fresh garlic and broth. My

dogs love raw meat and free range raw eggs. Some dogs like fresh

fruit too. I also use homeopathics in their water.

 

Kidney stones are very, very painful. You'll need to weigh the

suffering of your pet as you go through the process. If you're not

progressing at all please consider the surgery. I'm not in favor of

surgery at all, but I also hate to see my pet in severe pain

especially considering the size of the stone you mentioned. Please

monitor the urine volume to make sure the bladder is getting emptied.

 

Good luck.

Sharlene

 

herbal remedies , " LegacyManor "

<legacymanor wrote:

>

> Thanks Sharlene, so don't feed the 'special' dry food???? They do

get a lot

> of raw chicken and burger in their diets. Can I find the hydrangea

root in a

> health food store?

>

>

>

> Kathy

[Guest guest]

--- Kidney stones (whether in humans or animals) are almost always

caused by a lack of calcium in the diet. After your pet is free of

the stones I would put him/her on a calcium supplement to prevent

further stones from forming.

 

My husband had kidney stones, went on calcium, and hasn't ever had

them again.

 

Lori

 

 

In herbal remedies , " fire888earth " <sharmika

wrote:

>

> Yes, the health food store in the supplement section should have

> it. Open the the capsules of ground hydrangea root into your

pet's

> meal along with some powdered magnesium if possible. You could

also

> make a tea if they have hydrangea root in the bulk section, cool

and

> have your pet drink it. While you're at it, combine cornsilk or

> marshmallow to soothe the urinary tract.

>

> No dry dog food unless it is free from preservatives (difficult to

> find, I've heard Flint River Ranch is good). Cook brown rice and

> toss some 1/2 cooked veggie, olive oil, fresh garlic and broth.

My

> dogs love raw meat and free range raw eggs. Some dogs like fresh

> fruit too. I also use homeopathics in their water.

>

> Kidney stones are very, very painful. You'll need to weigh the

> suffering of your pet as you go through the process. If you're

not

> progressing at all please consider the surgery. I'm not in favor

of

> surgery at all, but I also hate to see my pet in severe pain

> especially considering the size of the stone you mentioned.

Please

> monitor the urine volume to make sure the bladder is getting

emptied.

>

> Good luck.

> Sharlene

>

> herbal remedies , " LegacyManor "

> <legacymanor@> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks Sharlene, so don't feed the 'special' dry food???? They

do

> get a lot

> > of raw chicken and burger in their diets. Can I find the

hydrangea

> root in a

> > health food store?

> >

> >

> >

> > Kathy

>

[Guest guest]

It also could be the ph of your pet is off. I have a cat who had the tendency to block because of crystals forming. There are two kinds of stones... oxylate and struvite. Each is usually obtained because the ph is too high or too low. Diet is one way to fix the problem. They make special foods for this but species appropiate diet (raw) helped mine to never block again. I hope your pal gets well soon.

Debbie

 

 

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Lori (Matheson-Huber) Smith

herbal remedies

Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:21 AM

Re: Herbal Remedies - OT - Pet with Kidney stone question

 

 

--- Kidney stones (whether in humans or animals) are almost always caused by a lack of calcium in the diet. After your pet is free of the stones I would put him/her on a calcium supplement to prevent further stones from forming.My husband had kidney stones, went on calcium, and hasn't ever had them again.LoriIn herbal remedies , "fire888earth" <sharmika wrote:>> Yes, the health food store in the supplement section should have > it. Open the the capsules of ground hydrangea root into your pet's > meal along with some powdered magnesium if possible. You could also > make a tea if they have hydrangea root in the bulk section, cool and > have your pet drink it. While you're at it, combine cornsilk or > marshmallow to soothe the urinary tract.> > No dry dog food unless it is free from preservatives (difficult to > find, I've heard Flint River Ranch is good). Cook brown rice and > toss some 1/2 cooked veggie, olive oil, fresh garlic and broth. My > dogs love raw meat and free range raw eggs. Some dogs like fresh > fruit too. I also use homeopathics in their water.> > Kidney stones are very, very painful. You'll need to weigh the > suffering of your pet as you go through the process. If you're not > progressing at all please consider the surgery. I'm not in favor of > surgery at all, but I also hate to see my pet in severe pain > especially considering the size of the stone you mentioned. Please > monitor the urine volume to make sure the bladder is getting emptied.> > Good luck.> Sharlene> > herbal remedies , "LegacyManor" > <legacymanor@> wrote:> >> > Thanks Sharlene, so don't feed the 'special' dry food???? They do > get a lot> > of raw chicken and burger in their diets. Can I find the hydrangea > root in a> > health food store?> > > > > > > > Kathy>

[Guest guest]

Lori, Debbie,

 

Since we raise our own meats and usually

have an abundance of poultry, my dogs diet’s are very high in raw meats

and bones and raw eggs. I also grind up poultry meat and bones which they

usually get every other day. I process poultry for sale for humans and the dogs

get the unusable parts. So it would seem that my dog with the kidney stone ‘should’

be getting enough calcium. Magnesium I don’t know how much she might be

getting, so I will be getting some of that.

 

Thanks for telling me the 2 types of

stones as I couldn’t get the vet to explain too much to me other than ‘one

dissolves, the other doesn’t’.

 

Kathy

 

 

http://www.LegacyManorFarm.com

" The

way food used to taste "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Debbie

Thursday, August 17, 2006

9:10 PM

herbal remedies

Re: Herbal Remedies - OT

- Pet with Kidney stone question

 

 

 

 

 

 

It also could be the ph of your pet is off. I have a cat who had

the tendency to block because of crystals forming. There are two kinds of

stones... oxylate and struvite. Each is usually obtained because the ph

is too high or too low. Diet is one way to fix the

problem. They make special foods for this but species appropiate diet

(raw) helped mine to never block again. I hope your pal gets well

soon.

 

 

Debbie

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Lori

(Matheson-Huber) Smith

 

 

herbal remedies

 

 

 

Thursday,

August 17, 2006 10:21 AM

 

 

Re: Herbal

Remedies - OT - Pet with Kidney stone question

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Kidney stones (whether in humans or animals) are

almost always

caused by a lack of calcium in the diet. After your pet is free of

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