LYME

[Guest guest]

i had lyme disease about 6 years ago,tryed many

things,antibiotics....,colladial silver helped me the most,two

tablespoons a day and some yogert to protect the stomich,i'm doing

well,i make my own today,when i had lyme i bought it from utopia silver

in texas,hope this can help betsy.

[Guest guest]

Yuk-ming,

I'm happy to respond to your question about specific symptoms I had with lyme.

I originally posted the information because someone on our group was treating

someone with advanced stage lyme and looking for more information.

 

I had a very clear localized infection, with a classic bulls-eye EM erythema

migrans rash about 4x3 inches on the back of my knee. In the US, that is enough

to diagnose and treat lyme with 2-3 weeks of antibiotics. After starting

treatment it continued to spread to almost 7x6 inches and gradually faded after

several weeks. I had some other heat symptoms and a lot of fatigue (which I

attribute partly to the antibiotics). I also used chinese herbs to clear hear

and boost my immune system after reading Steven Buhner's book on Lyme (which I

highly recommend for herbalists). I received acupuncture weekly at that time

too.

 

I would not necessarily have known to get treatment right away, except that a

week prior my partner was diagnosed with early disseminated stage Lyme, so I had

begun to research the disease. In his case he had no initial rash or evidence

of a tick bite. (In New England deer ticks are incredibly small and often

unnoticed.) He developed severe flu-like symptoms that were classic Shaoyang

and Yangming level. He seemed to recover and then several days later developed

several small rashes on his torso. A visit to the doctor and a Lyme test

confirmed it, and he was given 4 weeks of antibiotics.

 

A colleague of mine had lyme that developed into late-disseminated stage. She

developed, among other things, such severe joint swelling that she was laid up

for a period of time. My understanding is that the disease can progress

through the various stages very differently, and that Lyme tests are often not

accurate and will vary depending on how the bacteria is functioning in the body

at that time. Many patients with late-stage lyme receive diagnoses such as

fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, rheumatoid arthritis and others before being

diagnosed and treated for lyme. Unfortunately with late-stage lyme it can take

6-12 months or more of treatment with antibiotics or herbs and dealing with

organism die-off is very unpleasant. In early stages, short treatment is very

effective. In the US Lyme seems to be increasing, and there is a lot of

controversy about diagnoses and treatment of lyme, and seemingly a lot of

frustrated patients. Some patients use an

experimental protocol called the Marshal Protocol to address Th1 illnesses and

Vitamin D levels (a bit out of my league to explain further) to rid the body of

pathogens causing chronic inflammatory disease. Again, this protocol can take

months to years.

 

As was already discussed on this forum, I think has a lot to

offer to support patients with chronic lyme. Prior to this summer I did not

know very much about the disease or it's symptoms, but I hope that my experience

and information is helpful to others.

Best,

Lisa Desrosiers, MAc, LAc.

www.DavisSquareAcupuncture.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi, Lisa,

 

I am impressed and grateful for your response. It is beneficial and

insightful for all practitioners; at least for me. The nice thing

about the discussion group is that we all can learn from our

colleagues.

 

Usually, patient wth localized infection will seek wm treatment, esp.

dermotologists. They will treat the inflammation with anti-baterial

paste or cortisone. As you suggest, medication itself may cause side

effect such as fatigue. CM has the advantages of treating the

symptoms without creating new signs, if the diagnosis is correct.

That is one good advantage for emaciated patients who suffer more

than benefit from chronic anti-biotic treatment.

 

I did not come across any Lyme disease patient so far in my practice

in Hong Kong. I do have psorasis patients and other derm issue

patients. It is funny that, tick bite disease that is usually

associated with rural villages in under developed countries is found

in city dwellers. However, the nice thing about CM is, once we master

the pathomechanism and the principle of treatment, we can handle

these conditions effectively.

 

Thanks again Lisa. If you need any further information, you can ask

me off-list.

 

SUNG, Yuk-ming, PhD, L Ac, CM practitioner (Hong Kong)