Senate to Middle Class: Drop Dead ...a message from Michael Moore

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Senate to Middle Class: Drop Dead

Friday, December 12th, 2008

Friends,

They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakers start building only cars and mass transit that reduce our dependency on oil.

They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakers build cars that reduce global warming.

They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakers withdraw their many lawsuits against state governments in their attempts to not comply with our environmental laws.

They could have given the loan on the condition that the management team which drove these once-great manufacturers into the ground resign and be replaced with a team who understands the transportation needs of the 21st century.

Yes, they could have given the loan for any of these reasons because, in the end, to lose our manufacturing infrastructure and throw 3 million people out of work would be a catastrophe.

But instead, the Senate said, we'll give you the loan only if the factory workers take a $20 an hour cut in wages, pension and health care. That's right. After giving BILLIONS to Wall Street hucksters and criminal investment bankers -- billions with no strings attached and, as we have since learned, no oversight whatsoever -- the Senate decided it is more important to break a union, more important to throw middle class wage earners into the ranks of the working poor than to prevent the total collapse of industrial America.

We have a little more than a month to go of this madness. As I sit here in Michigan today, tens of thousands of hard working, honest, decent Americans do not believe they can make it to January 20th. The malaise here is astounding. Why must they suffer because of the mistakes of every CEO from Roger Smith to Rick Wagoner? Make management and the boards of directors and the shareholders pay for this.

Of course that is heresy to the 31 Republicans who decided to blame the poor, miserable autoworkers for this mess. And our wonderful media complied with their spin on the morning news shows: "UAW Refuses to Give Concessions Killing Auto Bailout Bill." In fact the UAW has given concession after concession, reduced their benefits, agreed to get rid of the Jobs Bank and agreed to make it harder for their retirees to live from week to week. Yes! That's what we need to do! It's the Jobs Bank and the old people who have led the nation to economic ruin!

But even doing all that wasn't enough to satisfy the bastard Republicans. These Senate vampires wanted blood. Blue collar blood. You see, they weren't opposed to the bailout because they believed in the free market or capitalism. No, they were opposed to the bailout because they're opposed to workers making a decent wage. In their rage, they were driven to destroy the backbone of this country, not because the UAW hadn't given back enough, but because the UAW hadn't given up.

It appears that the sitting President has been looking for a way to end his reign by one magnanimous act, just like a warlord on his feast day. He will put his finger in the dyke, and the fragile mess of an auto industry will eke through the next few months.

That will give the Senate enough time to demand that the bankers and investment sharks who've already swiped nearly half of the $700 billion gift a chance to make the offer of cutting their pay.

Fat chance.

Yours,Michael MooreMMFlintMichaelMoore.com Join Mike's Mailing List | Join Mike's Facebook Group | Become Mike's MySpace Friend

 

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Eagle, Thanks for posting this insightful, (as usual), article from

Michael Moore where he again hits the nail on the head, especially

where he points out that:

1) The loan could have had the conditions he names;

2) ... " because, in the end, to lose our manufacturing infrastructure

and throw 3 million people out of work would be a catastrophe.

> But instead, the Senate said, we'll give you the loan only if the

factory workers take a $20 an hour cut in wages, pension and health

care. " , [i.e., class-warfare which will verge on a class-genocide);

3) ... " That's right. After giving BILLIONS to Wall Street hucksters

and criminal investment bankers -- billions with no strings attached

and, as we have since learned, no oversight whatsoever -- the Senate

decided it is more important to break a union, more important to throw

middle class wage earners into the ranks of the working poor than to

prevent the total collapse of industrial America. " [i.e., again

describing the elements of class-genocide].

4)... " media complied with their spin on the morning news shows: " UAW

Refuses to Give Concessions Killing Auto Bailout Bill. " In fact the

UAW has given concession after concession, reduced their benefits,

agreed to get rid of the Jobs Bank and agreed to make it harder for

their retirees to live from week to week. Yes! That's what we need to

do! It's the Jobs Bank and the old people who have led the nation to

economic ruin!

5)... " These Senate vampires wanted blood. Blue collar blood. You see,

they weren't opposed to the bailout because they believed in the free

market or capitalism. No, they were opposed to the bailout because

they're opposed to workers making a decent wage. In their rage, they

were driven to destroy the backbone of this country, not because the

UAW hadn't given back enough, but because the UAW hadn't given up. "

6)... " That will give the Senate enough time to demand that the bankers

and investment sharks who've already swiped nearly half of the $700

billion gift a chance to make the offer of cutting their pay.

> Fat chance. "

 

Well said, Michael. Lead on.

 

Joyce Simmerman, J.D.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Eagle " <NWRaven wrote:

>

> Senate to Middle Class: Drop Dead

> Friday, December 12th, 2008

> Friends,

> They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakers

start building only cars and mass transit that reduce our dependency

on oil.

> They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakers

build cars that reduce global warming.

> They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakers

withdraw their many lawsuits against state governments in their

attempts to not comply with our environmental laws.

> They could have given the loan on the condition that the management

team which drove these once-great manufacturers into the ground resign

and be replaced with a team who understands the transportation needs

of the 21st century.

> Yes, they could have given the loan for any of these reasons

because, in the end, to lose our manufacturing infrastructure and

throw 3 million people out of work would be a catastrophe.

> But instead, the Senate said, we'll give you the loan only if the

factory workers take a $20 an hour cut in wages, pension and health

care. That's right. After giving BILLIONS to Wall Street hucksters and

criminal investment bankers -- billions with no strings attached and,

as we have since learned, no oversight whatsoever -- the Senate

decided it is more important to break a union, more important to throw

middle class wage earners into the ranks of the working poor than to

prevent the total collapse of industrial America.

> We have a little more than a month to go of this madness. As I sit

here in Michigan today, tens of thousands of hard working, honest,

decent Americans do not believe they can make it to January 20th. The

malaise here is astounding. Why must they suffer because of the

mistakes of every CEO from Roger Smith to Rick Wagoner? Make

management and the boards of directors and the shareholders pay for this.

> Of course that is heresy to the 31 Republicans who decided to blame

the poor, miserable autoworkers for this mess. And our wonderful media

complied with their spin on the morning news shows: " UAW Refuses to

Give Concessions Killing Auto Bailout Bill. " In fact the UAW has given

concession after concession, reduced their benefits, agreed to get rid

of the Jobs Bank and agreed to make it harder for their retirees to

live from week to week. Yes! That's what we need to do! It's the Jobs

Bank and the old people who have led the nation to economic ruin!

> But even doing all that wasn't enough to satisfy the bastard

Republicans. These Senate vampires wanted blood. Blue collar blood.

You see, they weren't opposed to the bailout because they believed in

the free market or capitalism. No, they were opposed to the bailout

because they're opposed to workers making a decent wage. In their

rage, they were driven to destroy the backbone of this country, not

because the UAW hadn't given back enough, but because the UAW hadn't

given up.

> It appears that the sitting President has been looking for a way to

end his reign by one magnanimous act, just like a warlord on his feast

day. He will put his finger in the dyke, and the fragile mess of an

auto industry will eke through the next few months.

> That will give the Senate enough time to demand that the bankers and

investment sharks who've already swiped nearly half of the $700

billion gift a chance to make the offer of cutting their pay.

> Fat chance.

> Yours,

> Michael Moore

> MMFlint

> MichaelMoore.com

>

>

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At best , Michael Moore is usually only half right. There is no way any US conpany can survive when paying $72 per hour for a person to tighten lug nuts on wheels when the rest of the people in the country struggles to make ends meet on $12 while a Chinaman gets 50m cents per hour. The management AND the unions have destroyed the auto industry in the US and they both deserve to go bankrupt.

 

Michael Moore's message continues to say, "Drop dead, America" - not just the middle class. If we ask the likes of MM to lead on we are just asking for more trouble.--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Joyce <nativelegal wrote:

Joyce <nativelegal Re: Senate to Middle Class: Drop Dead ...a message from Michael Moore Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 4:09 PM

 

 

Eagle, Thanks for posting this insightful, (as usual), article fromMichael Moore where he again hits the nail on the head, especiallywhere he points out that:1) The loan could have had the conditions he names;2) ..."because, in the end, to lose our manufacturing infrastructureand throw 3 million people out of work would be a catastrophe. > But instead, the Senate said, we'll give you the loan only if thefactory workers take a $20 an hour cut in wages, pension and healthcare.", [i.e., class-warfare which will verge on a class-genocide) ;3) ..."That's right. After giving BILLIONS to Wall Street huckstersand criminal investment bankers -- billions with no strings attachedand, as we have since learned, no oversight whatsoever -- the Senatedecided it is more important to break a union, more important to throwmiddle class wage earners into the ranks of the working poor than toprevent the total

collapse of industrial America." [i.e., againdescribing the elements of class-genocide] .4)..."media complied with their spin on the morning news shows: "UAWRefuses to Give Concessions Killing Auto Bailout Bill." In fact theUAW has given concession after concession, reduced their benefits,agreed to get rid of the Jobs Bank and agreed to make it harder fortheir retirees to live from week to week. Yes! That's what we need todo! It's the Jobs Bank and the old people who have led the nation toeconomic ruin! 5)... "These Senate vampires wanted blood. Blue collar blood. You see,they weren't opposed to the bailout because they believed in the freemarket or capitalism. No, they were opposed to the bailout becausethey're opposed to workers making a decent wage. In their rage, theywere driven to destroy the backbone of this country, not because theUAW hadn't given back enough, but because the UAW hadn't

given up."6)..."That will give the Senate enough time to demand that the bankersand investment sharks who've already swiped nearly half of the $700billion gift a chance to make the offer of cutting their pay. > Fat chance. "Well said, Michael. Lead on. Joyce Simmerman, J.D. , "Eagle" <NWRaven > wrote:>> Senate to Middle Class: Drop Dead > Friday, December 12th, 2008 > Friends, > They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakersstart building only cars and mass transit that reduce our dependencyon oil. > They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakersbuild cars that reduce global warming.

> They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakerswithdraw their many lawsuits against state governments in theirattempts to not comply with our environmental laws. > They could have given the loan on the condition that the managementteam which drove these once-great manufacturers into the ground resignand be replaced with a team who understands the transportation needsof the 21st century. > Yes, they could have given the loan for any of these reasonsbecause, in the end, to lose our manufacturing infrastructure andthrow 3 million people out of work would be a catastrophe. > But instead, the Senate said, we'll give you the loan only if thefactory workers take a $20 an hour cut in wages, pension and healthcare. That's right. After giving BILLIONS to Wall Street hucksters andcriminal investment bankers -- billions with no strings attached and,as we have since

learned, no oversight whatsoever -- the Senatedecided it is more important to break a union, more important to throwmiddle class wage earners into the ranks of the working poor than toprevent the total collapse of industrial America. > We have a little more than a month to go of this madness. As I sithere in Michigan today, tens of thousands of hard working, honest,decent Americans do not believe they can make it to January 20th. Themalaise here is astounding. Why must they suffer because of themistakes of every CEO from Roger Smith to Rick Wagoner? Makemanagement and the boards of directors and the shareholders pay for this. > Of course that is heresy to the 31 Republicans who decided to blamethe poor, miserable autoworkers for this mess. And our wonderful mediacomplied with their spin on the morning news shows: "UAW Refuses toGive Concessions Killing Auto Bailout Bill." In fact the UAW has

givenconcession after concession, reduced their benefits, agreed to get ridof the Jobs Bank and agreed to make it harder for their retirees tolive from week to week. Yes! That's what we need to do! It's the JobsBank and the old people who have led the nation to economic ruin! > But even doing all that wasn't enough to satisfy the bastardRepublicans. These Senate vampires wanted blood. Blue collar blood.You see, they weren't opposed to the bailout because they believed inthe free market or capitalism. No, they were opposed to the bailoutbecause they're opposed to workers making a decent wage. In theirrage, they were driven to destroy the backbone of this country, notbecause the UAW hadn't given back enough, but because the UAW hadn'tgiven up. > It appears that the sitting President has been looking for a way toend his reign by one magnanimous act, just like a warlord on his feastday. He

will put his finger in the dyke, and the fragile mess of anauto industry will eke through the next few months. > That will give the Senate enough time to demand that the bankers andinvestment sharks who've already swiped nearly half of the $700billion gift a chance to make the offer of cutting their pay. > Fat chance. > Yours,> Michael Moore> MMFlint MichaelMoore. com > > > Join Mike's Mailing List | Join Mike's Facebook Group | BecomeMike's MySpace Friend>