Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 David! Many thanks for your great suggestions! BR Carl _____ Från: Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine För flyingstarsfengshui Skickat: den 19 september 2007 17:30 Till: Chinese Medicine Ämne: SV: Re: Master Tung acupuncture Hi: I suggest three sources for texts. These people are serious practioners and teachers and teach and present a comprehensive Tung system. 1. Dr. Young Wei Chieh, a student of Master Tung. He has a few books but get his newer book with pics. He does speak much english so his workshops are translated. http://www.drweichi <http://www.drweichiehyoung.com/> ehyoung.com/ 2. Dr. Robert Chu, he has a few books which are excellent, he speaks english and fluent chinese and has translated for Dr. Young. I suggest any of his workshops. You can email hime about books and schedule. http://www.chusaule <http://www.chusaulei.com/index.php> i.com/index.php 3. James Maher, OMD, has written two book I know of which are very good, Advanced Master Tung Style Acupuncture: Dao Maa Technique and Advacned Tung Style Acupuncture: Obstetrics and Gynecology. http://www.advanced <http://www.advancedtungstyleacupuncture.com/daomao.html> tungstyleacupuncture.com/daomao.html I recommend all of these. Regards, david Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40> Chinese_Medicine , " Carl " <carlhenryk.wallmark wrote: > > Hi David > > > > Until I can attend a good course, are there any good books you can > recommend? > > > > BR > > Carl > > > > _____ > > Från: Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40> Chinese_Medicine > [Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40> Chinese_Medicine ] För > flyingstarsfengshui > Skickat: den 18 september 2007 21:57 > Till: Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40> Chinese_Medicine > Ämne: Re: Master Tung acupuncture > > > > > Its exellent, learn it if you can, it will change the way you > practice. Many protocols for OBGYN. > > regards, > > david > > Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine% 40> > Chinese_Medicine@ <Chinese_Medicine%40> , " Carl " > <carlhenryk.wallmark@> wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone on this list has any experience with Master Tung > > acupuncture and what you think about it…… > > > > > > > > BR > > > > Carl Wallmark > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Från: Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine% 40> > Chinese_Medicine@ <Chinese_Medicine%40> > > [Traditional_ > <Chinese Medicine%40> > Chinese_Medicine@ <Chinese_Medicine%40> ] För David > Karchmer > > Skickat: den 17 september 2007 21:45 > > Till: Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine% 40> > Chinese_Medicine@ <Chinese_Medicine%40> > > Ämne: Re: IVF Success Rates & ABORM > > > > > > > > Christopher, > > > > All of these statistics are tracked meticulously and reported to > the > > CDC. Outcomes of IVF are reported by age group. Conception rates > and > > live birth rates are alsotracked and reported, as are the > incidences > > of singletons, twins, triplets, etc. > > > > I think Alon was generalizing, but the RE community and the CDC > have > > specific data across all of these criteria. > > > > David Karchmer > > > > Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine% > 40> > > Chinese_Medicine@ <Chinese_Medicine%40> > , Christopher > > Vedeler <vedeler@> wrote: > > > > > > IVF success rates are truly meaningless statistics without more > > > information. Clearly a success rate of 25% with a patient over > 40 > > with > > > serious infertility issues such as PCOS, irregular cycles and > > fibroids, > > > is remarkably good, while for a 25 year old patient with a > totally > > clean > > > bill of health and regular cycles 25% is very poor indeed. To > > lump them > > > all together gives no useful information. Also it is important > to > > not > > > just track successful pregnancies, but babies delivered healthy > > and > > > happy. An IVF can result in a successful pregnancy only to lead > > to a > > > miscarriage down the line. > > > > > > My success rates with infertility are in the 50% range overall > and > > it is > > > the 3rd most common thing I treat (after pain and well being). > > > Considering I often am seeing some of the most challenging > > infertility > > > patients (over 40, PCOS, high FSH etc.) I think I'm doing rather > > well. > > > > > > My business is good and I feel no threat from the ABORM forming. > > > Perhaps I'll look into the test at some point, but once you have > a > > > reputation and can get referrals from reproductive > > endocrinologists, > > > having a piece of paper saying you know what you are doing from > > other > > > acupuncturists is pretty meaningless. Do your research (know the > > > Western procedures, drugs, biology, physiology etc.), know what > > you are > > > doing, know what a patient is talking about when they come in > with > > their > > > lab results, get results using our medicine and you will stay > > busy. I > > > prefer to let other people more passionate about these things > > fight the > > > political battles. I prefer to treat patients. > > > > > > Christopher Vedeler L.Ac. > > > www.oasisacupuncture.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 I suggest both as one focuses upon theory and the other on actual locations. They are not that expensive and will arrive quickly if ordered from Dr Young. Glad to be of service. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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