Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Any suggestions of how to treat flee allergy in a dog thanks - " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:17 PM RE: SV: Re: Master Tung acupuncture I suggest you check out these links for some texts. http://www.tungspoints.com/ http://www.drweichiehyoung.com/ http://www.advancedtungstyleacupuncture.com/ I own the two texts by Dr Young and find them to be a great resource. Since he is still alive you might want to check out his seminar as he currently is the one who seems to have been with Master Tung the most. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac : carlhenryk.wallmark: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:33:09 +0200Subject: SV: Re: Master Tung acupuncture Hi DavidUntil I can attend a good course, are there any good books you canrecommend?BRCarl_____ Från: Chinese Medicine [Chinese Medicine\ @] FörflyingstarsfengshuiSkickat: den 18 september 2007 21:57Till: Chinese Medicine Ämne: Re: Master Tung acupunctureIts exellent, learn it if you can, it will change the way you practice. Many protocols for OBGYN.regards,davidTraditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>Chinese_Medicine@gro\ ups.com, " Carl " <carlhenryk.wallmark wrote:>> Hello!> > > > I wonder if anyone on this list has any experience with Master Tung> acupuncture and what you think about it..> > > > BR> > Carl Wallmark> > > > _____ > > Från: Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>Chinese_Medicine@gro\ ups.com> [Traditional_<Chinese Medicine%40>Chine\ se_Medicine ] För David Karchmer> Skickat: den 17 september 2007 21:45> Till: Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>Chinese_Medicine@gro\ ups.com> Ämne: Re: IVF Success Rates & ABORM> > > > Christopher,> > All of these statistics are tracked meticulously and reported to the > CDC. Outcomes of IVF are reported by age group. Conception rates and > live birth rates are alsotracked and reported, as are the incidences > of singletons, twins, triplets, etc.> > I think Alon was generalizing, but the RE community and the CDC have > specific data across all of these criteria. > > David Karchmer> > Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>> Chinese_Medicine@ <Chinese_Medicine%40>, Christopher > Vedeler <vedeler@> wrote:> >> > IVF success rates are truly meaningless statistics without more > > information. Clearly a success rate of 25% with a patient over 40 > with > > serious infertility issues such as PCOS, irregular cycles and > fibroids, > > is remarkably good, while for a 25 year old patient with a totally > clean > > bill of health and regular cycles 25% is very poor indeed. To > lump them > > all together gives no useful information. Also it is important to > not > > just track successful pregnancies, but babies delivered healthy > and > > happy. An IVF can result in a successful pregnancy only to lead > to a > > miscarriage down the line.> > > > My success rates with infertility are in the 50% range overall and > it is > > the 3rd most common thing I treat (after pain and well being). > > Considering I often am seeing some of the most challenging > infertility > > patients (over 40, PCOS, high FSH etc.) I think I'm doing rather > well. > > > > My business is good and I feel no threat from the ABORM forming. > > Perhaps I'll look into the test at some point, but once you have a > > reputation and can get referrals from reproductive > endocrinologists, > > having a piece of paper saying you know what you are doing from > other > > acupuncturists is pretty meaningless. Do your research (know the > > Western procedures, drugs, biology, physiology etc.), know what > you are > > doing, know what a patient is talking about when they come in with > their > > lab results, get results using our medicine and you will stay > busy. I > > prefer to let other people more passionate about these things > fight the > > political battles. I prefer to treat patients.> > > > Christopher Vedeler L.Ac.> > www.oasisacupuncture.com> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 We would as veterinarians trained in TCVM, make our Chinese Diagnosis, correct the diet with food therapy, use the appropiate acupuncture points and then also the best fit TCVM Herbal formula from Jing Tang Herbal.If the patient ned a TCVM Vet, look up on the Find A practitioner site and go to the state of their choice, www.tcvm.com Sincerely,Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology : alonmarcus: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:15:04 -0700Re: SV: Re: allergies Any suggestions of how to treat flee allergy in a dogthanks400 29th St. #419----- Original Message ----- " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1To: <Chinese Traditional Medicine >Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:17 PMRE: SV: Re: Master Tung acupunctureI suggest you check out these links for some texts.http://www.tungspoints.com/http://www.drweichiehyoung.com/http://www.advan\ cedtungstyleacupuncture.com/I own the two texts by Dr Young and find them to be a great resource.Since he is still alive you might want to check out his seminar as hecurrently is the one who seems to have been with Master Tung the most. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac: carlhenryk.wallmark: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:33:09 +0200SV: Re: Master Tung acupunctureHi DavidUntil I can attend a good course, are there any good books you canrecommend?BRCarl_____ Från: Chinese Medicine [Chinese Medicine\ @] FörflyingstarsfengshuiSkickat: den 18 september 2007 21:57Till: Chinese Medicine Ämne: Re: Master Tung acupunctureIts exellent, learn it if you can, it will change the way you practice. Many protocols for OBGYN.regards,davidTraditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>Chinese_Medicine@gro\ ups.com, " Carl " <carlhenryk.wallmark wrote:>> Hello!> > > > I wonder if anyone on this list has any experience with Master Tung> acupuncture and what you think about it..> > > > BR> > Carl Wallmark> > > > _____ > > Från: Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>Chinese_Medicine@gro\ ups.com> [Traditional_<Chinese Medicine%40>Chine\ se_Medicine ] För David Karchmer> Skickat: den 17 september 2007 21:45> Till: Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>Chinese_Medicine@gro\ ups.com> Ämne: Re: IVF Success Rates & ABORM> > > > Christopher,> > All of these statistics are tracked meticulously and reported to the > CDC. Outcomes of IVF are reported by age group. Conception rates and > live birth rates are alsotracked and reported, as are the incidences > of singletons, twins, triplets, etc.> > I think Alon was generalizing, but the RE community and the CDC have > specific data across all of these criteria. > > David Karchmer> > --- In Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>> Chinese_Medicine@ <Chinese_Medicine%40>, Christopher > Vedeler <vedeler@> wrote:> >> > IVF success rates are truly meaningless statistics without more > > information. Clearly a success rate of 25% with a patient over 40 > with > > serious infertility issues such as PCOS, irregular cycles and > fibroids, > > is remarkably good, while for a 25 year old patient with a totally > clean > > bill of health and regular cycles 25% is very poor indeed. To > lump them > > all together gives no useful information. Also it is important to > not > > just track successful pregnancies, but babies delivered healthy > and > > happy. An IVF can result in a successful pregnancy only to lead > to a > > miscarriage down the line.> > > > My success rates with infertility are in the 50% range overall and > it is > > the 3rd most common thing I treat (after pain and well being). > > Considering I often am seeing some of the most challenging > infertility > > patients (over 40, PCOS, high FSH etc.) I think I'm doing rather > well. > > > > My business is good and I feel no threat from the ABORM forming. > > Perhaps I'll look into the test at some point, but once you have a > > reputation and can get referrals from reproductive > endocrinologists, > > having a piece of paper saying you know what you are doing from > other > > acupuncturists is pretty meaningless. Do your research (know the > > Western procedures, drugs, biology, physiology etc.), know what > you are > > doing, know what a patient is talking about when they come in with > their > > lab results, get results using our medicine and you will stay > busy. I > > prefer to let other people more passionate about these things > fight the > > political battles. I prefer to treat patients.> > > > Christopher Vedeler L.Ac.> > www.oasisacupuncture.com> >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]________Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It's our way of saying thanks for using Windows LiveT.http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]Subscribe to the fee online journal for TCM at Times http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.comHelp build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine and acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpediaTo change your email delivery settings, click, and adjust accordingly.Messages are the property of the author. 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Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Hi Alon, I use VCNO ( virgin coconut oil) po & topical. Topical application will strengthen the skin & hair follicles, eventually yielding healthier fur Reduces itching / inflamation, Has antimicrobial, antifungal, antiviral, antifungal, much like a broad spectrum abx For the last couple of months I've been bathing my Chows with soap made of VCNO. The oiliness of the fur kind of weakens the fleas ( less motility) Can use a fine toothe comb, or will just wash off during bathing. Can use VCNO or CCC (coconut cream concentrate) po I use both, either, or. How big is the dog? Topically, can use ad lib. Won't hurt. Depends on the extent of the problem. Goto this site for products. ( have no financial interest.) _www.TropicalTraditions.com_ (http://www.TropicalTraditions.com) Other CCNO maybe chemically processed. Human studies on this site & links, & PubMed as well. Email me if need more info. msg getting too long. amy Dosage: Start low, then gradual increments. 1 tsp/day in the food or water to drink Can act as a laxative / induce LBM if dog looking weak/deficient (SP/ST DEF) In that case, backup the dose, or hold for a day or two. Resume at a lower dose thereafter, with gradual increments Had use it on a dog with siezure problems. Seizure events less frequent, less violent, duration shortened on day two. The idea being, nerve tissues are made of fatty tissues. VCNO kind of breakdown adipose tissues lodged in the body (phlegm /damp blocking Qi & blood circ) eventually tonifying Qi / Immune Sys As to channel tropism, undeniably the UB/K, SP/ST ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Oooops! I hit the wrong botton. meant to edit for later. Sorry. amy ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Hi Kath, One tsp / day to start, so that will be in divided doses depending on how often he eats or drink one tsp total/day for first few days. Work up to 2tsp for another few days. See how it goes. Can further up to 3tsp thereafter. Can give ad lib in few weeks if well tolerated.The dog has intelligence to know when/how much. Others just put it in a dish (also for cats) and they'll go leak it whenever they want. The reason for the low initial dose /gradual increments is a possible aggravation of syndrome called Herxiemer syndrome, due to too much, too soon toxicity release, more than what the body can handle. Wide range of applications for humans: Weight issues .. for it's detoxifying effect Fibromyalgia ... for it's capacity to transform damp/ phlegm, unblocking the channels. Hair Health..... for it's capacity to detoxify the scalp if topically applied, nourishing the roots Cholesterol issues...due to transformation of damp/phlegm, detoxifying effect. Hypothyroidism.... for it's effect on the endocrine. a lot more but I will address the signature & channels affected b4 I run out of space. Look at the CCN in a shell.It depicts 2 eyes and the nose, take this as the human head/eyes & nose. ST1emerge below the lower eyelids, spreads out to the nose bridge, joins with UB at this area. UB passes by Yintang bilaterally (access to Pituitary), then by Du 20 (access to pineal)>>>UB67 Picture the tree trunk as the spinal column. Can you see the signature, as it relates to human anatomy? So, we reflect to our evironment vice versa. Dosage for humans.. start low, gradual increments. 3.5 to 4 tablespoons/day recomd for therapeutic dose. Others make there own adjustments after a while. Some up to 6Tbsp/day Is it a nut, a fruit,a veg, or a drink? I would say, all of the above. check the website. a lot of info. _www.TropicalTraditions.com_ (http://www.TropicalTraditions.com) (no financial interest) Take care. amy ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Happy to help, Alon. Something remarkable I forgot to mention in my response to Kath. There's a research done on HIV sometime ago, (probably 90's)b4 all other drugs were out. It was in the papers that MAGIC JOHNSON used it Should be in PubMed/Medline. A lot of good research done, but just collecting dust, I heard. No media cov. Take care. amy ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 thanks patricia. i didn't know about this tcmvet locator. i found a tcm vet in my area that i didn't know was here. of course i'm thrilled to have a tcm vet in my arsenal. kb On 9/20/07, Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic wrote: > > > We would as veterinarians trained in TCVM, make our Chinese Diagnosis, > correct the diet with food therapy, use the appropiate acupuncture points > and then also the best fit TCVM Herbal formula from Jing Tang Herbal.Ifthe patient ned a TCVM Vet, look up on the Find A practitioner site and go > to the state of their choice, www.tcvm.com Sincerely,Patricia Jordan > DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology > > To: Chinese Medicine<Chinese Medicine%40\ From>: > alonmarcus <alonmarcus%40wans.netDate>: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 > 10:15:04 -0700Re: SV: Re: allergies > > Any suggestions of how to treat flee allergy in a dogthanksAlon Marcus > DOMOakland CA > 94609----- Original Message > ----- " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1<naturaldoc1%40hotmail.com>>To: > <Chinese Traditional Medicine <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40yah\ oogroups.com>>Sent: > Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:17 PMRE: SV: Re: Master Tung > acupunctureI suggest you check out these links for some > texts.http://www.tungspoints.com/http://www.drweichiehyoung.com/http://www.advan\ cedtungstyleacupuncture.com/Iown the two texts by Dr Young and find them to be a great > resource.Since he is still alive you might want to check out his seminar > as hecurrently is the one who seems to have been with Master Tung the most. > Mike W. Bowser, L AcTo: Chinese Medicine<Chinese Medicine%40\ From>: > carlhenryk.wallmark <carlhenryk.wallmark%40telia.comDate>: > Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:33:09 +0200SV: Re: Master Tung > acupunctureHi DavidUntil I can attend a good course, are there any good > books you canrecommend?BRCarl_____ Från: > Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > [Chinese Medicine <Traditional_Chinese_Medicin\ e%40>] > FörflyingstarsfengshuiSkickat: den 18 september 2007 21:57Till: > Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com>Ämne: > Re: Master Tung acupunctureIts exellent, learn it if you can, it will > change the way you practice. Many protocols for OBGYN.regards,david--- In > Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40> > Chinese_Medicine <Chinese_Medicine%40>, > " Carl " <carlhenryk.wallmark wrote:>> Hello!> > > > I wonder if anyone > on this list has any experience with Master Tung> acupuncture and what you > think about it..> > > > BR> > Carl Wallmark> > > > _____ > > Från: > Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40> > Chinese_Medicine <Chinese_Medicine%40>> > [Traditional_<Chinese Medicine%40 > >Chinese_Medicine <Chinese_Medicine%40>] > För David Karchmer> Skickat: den 17 september 2007 21:45> Till: Traditional_ > <Chinese Medicine%40> > Chinese_Medicine <Chinese_Medicine%40>> > Ämne: Re: IVF Success Rates & ABORM> > > > Christopher,> > All of > these statistics are tracked meticulously and reported to the > CDC. > Outcomes of IVF are reported by age group. Conception rates and > live birth > rates are alsotracked and reported, as are the incidences > of singletons, > twins, triplets, etc.> > I think Alon was generalizing, but the RE community > and the CDC have > specific data across all of these criteria. > > David > Karchmer> > Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>> > Chinese_Medicine@ <Chinese_Medicine%40> > , Christopher > Vedeler <vedeler@> wrote:> >> > IVF success > rates are truly meaningless statistics without more > > information. Clearly > a success rate of 25% with a patient over 40 > with > > serious infertility > issues such as PCOS, irregular cycles and > fibroids, > > is remarkably > good, while for a 25 year old patient with a totally > clean > > bill of > health and regular cycles 25% is very poor indeed. To > lump them > > all > together gives no useful information. Also it is important to > not > > just > track successful pregnancies, but babies delivered healthy > and > > happy. > An IVF can result in a successful pregnancy only to lead > to a > > > miscarriage down the line.> > > > My success rates with infertility are in > the 50% range overall and > it is > > the 3rd most common thing I treat > (after pain and well being). > > Considering I often am seeing some of the > most challenging > infertility > > patients (over 40, PCOS, high FSH etc.) I > think I'm doing rather > well. > > > > My business is good and I feel no > threat from the ABORM forming. > > Perhaps I'll look into the test at some > point, but once you have a > > reputation and can get referrals from > reproductive > endocrinologists, > > having a piece of paper saying you know > what you are doing from > other > > acupuncturists is pretty meaningless. Do > your research (know the > > Western procedures, drugs, biology, physiology > etc.), know what > you are > > doing, know what a patient is talking about > when they come in with > their > > lab results, get results using our > medicine and you will stay > busy. I > > prefer to let other people more > passionate about these things > fight the > > political battles. I prefer to > treat patients.> > > > Christopher Vedeler L.Ac.> > www.oasisacupunctur > e.com> >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed]>[Non-text portions of this message have been > removed]________Gear up > for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It's our way of > saying thanks for using Windows > LiveT.http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2[Non-text > portions of this message have been removed]Subscribe to the fee online > journal for TCM at Times > http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.comHelp<http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.comhelp/\ >build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine and > acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpediaTochange your email delivery settings, click, > and adjust > accordingly.Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication > outside the group requires prior permission from the author.Pleaseconsider the environment and only print this message if absolutely > necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 amy: the info you posted about virgin cocoanut oil is quite interesting. some questions: 1. you say 1t/day. do you mean to work up to that dose, or start there and work higher. if the latter, then work up to how much? 2. you mention it also tx seizures due to nerve prob via the nerve tissues. i'm wondering about other application involving nerves. i'm thnking about a human patient with drug induced neuropathy, and wondering if it might be applicable? what dose for humans. she's moderately obese (over 200) 50+y. thanks, kath On 9/20/07, Amyc144 <Amyc144 wrote: > Hi Alon, > I use VCNO ( virgin coconut oil) po & topical. > Topical application will strengthen the skin & hair follicles, eventually > yielding healthier fur > Reduces itching / inflamation, > Has antimicrobial, antifungal, antiviral, antifungal, much like a broad > spectrum abx > > For the last couple of months I've been bathing my Chows with soap made of > > VCNO. > The oiliness of the fur kind of weakens the fleas ( less motility) > Can use a fine toothe comb, or will just wash off during bathing. > > Can use VCNO or CCC (coconut cream concentrate) po > I use both, either, or. > How big is the dog? > Topically, can use ad lib. Won't hurt. Depends on the extent of the > problem. > Goto this site for products. ( have no financial interest.) > _www.TropicalTraditions.com_ (http://www.TropicalTraditions.com<http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/>) > > Other CCNO maybe chemically processed. Human studies on this site & links, > & > PubMed as well. > Email me if need more info. msg getting too long. > amy > > > Dosage: > Start low, then gradual increments. 1 tsp/day in the food or water to > drink > Can act as a laxative / induce LBM if dog looking weak/deficient (SP/ST > DEF) > In that case, backup the dose, or hold for a day or two. > Resume at a lower dose thereafter, with gradual increments > > Had use it on a dog with siezure problems. > Seizure events less frequent, less violent, duration shortened on day two. > The idea being, nerve tissues are made of fatty tissues. > VCNO kind of breakdown adipose tissues lodged in the body (phlegm /damp > blocking Qi & blood circ) > eventually tonifying Qi / Immune Sys > > As to channel tropism, undeniably the UB/K, SP/ST > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 thanks Amy - Amyc144 Chinese Medicine Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:21 PM Re: SV: Re: allergies Hi Alon, I use VCNO ( virgin coconut oil) po & topical. Topical application will strengthen the skin & hair follicles, eventually yielding healthier fur Reduces itching / inflamation, Has antimicrobial, antifungal, antiviral, antifungal, much like a broad spectrum abx For the last couple of months I've been bathing my Chows with soap made of VCNO. The oiliness of the fur kind of weakens the fleas ( less motility) Can use a fine toothe comb, or will just wash off during bathing. Can use VCNO or CCC (coconut cream concentrate) po I use both, either, or. How big is the dog? Topically, can use ad lib. Won't hurt. Depends on the extent of the problem. Goto this site for products. ( have no financial interest.) _www.TropicalTraditions.com_ (http://www.TropicalTraditions.com) Other CCNO maybe chemically processed. Human studies on this site & links, & PubMed as well. Email me if need more info. msg getting too long. amy Dosage: Start low, then gradual increments. 1 tsp/day in the food or water to drink Can act as a laxative / induce LBM if dog looking weak/deficient (SP/ST DEF) In that case, backup the dose, or hold for a day or two. Resume at a lower dose thereafter, with gradual increments Had use it on a dog with siezure problems. Seizure events less frequent, less violent, duration shortened on day two. The idea being, nerve tissues are made of fatty tissues. VCNO kind of breakdown adipose tissues lodged in the body (phlegm /damp blocking Qi & blood circ) eventually tonifying Qi / Immune Sys As to channel tropism, undeniably the UB/K, SP/ST ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 amy: this is some interesting info. i'm glad you have posted it. what about my drug-induced neuropathy patient? would the cocoanut oil have a medical application here? i'm thinking about the nervous system connection. kb On 9/21/07, Amyc144 <Amyc144 wrote: > > Hi Kath, > One tsp / day to start, so that will be in divided doses depending on how > often he eats or drink > one tsp total/day for first few days. Work up to 2tsp for another few > days. > See how it goes. Can further up to 3tsp thereafter. > Can give ad lib in few weeks if well tolerated.The dog has intelligence to > > know when/how much. > Others just put it in a dish (also for cats) and they'll go leak it > whenever they want. > > The reason for the low initial dose /gradual increments is a possible > aggravation of syndrome > called Herxiemer syndrome, due to too much, too soon toxicity release, > more than what the body can handle. > > Wide range of applications for humans: > Weight issues .. for it's detoxifying effect > Fibromyalgia ... for it's capacity to transform damp/ phlegm, unblocking > the channels. > Hair Health..... for it's capacity to detoxify the scalp if topically > applied, nourishing the roots > Cholesterol issues...due to transformation of damp/phlegm, detoxifying > effect. > Hypothyroidism.... for it's effect on the endocrine. > a lot more but I will address the signature & channels affected b4 I run > out of space. > Look at the CCN in a shell.It depicts 2 eyes and the nose, take this as > the > human head/eyes & nose. > ST1emerge below the lower eyelids, spreads out to the nose bridge, joins > with UB at this area. > UB passes by Yintang bilaterally (access to Pituitary), then by Du 20 > (access to pineal)>>>UB67 > Picture the tree trunk as the spinal column. Can you see the signature, as > > it relates to human anatomy? > So, we reflect to our evironment vice versa. > > Dosage for humans.. start low, gradual increments. 3.5 to 4 > tablespoons/day > recomd for therapeutic dose. > Others make there own adjustments after a while. Some up to 6Tbsp/day > Is it a nut, a fruit,a veg, or a drink? I would say, all of the above. > check the website. a lot of info. _www.TropicalTraditions.com_ > (http://www.TropicalTraditions.com <http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/>) > (no financial interest) > Take care. amy > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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