Changes in Appetite

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

 

I am wondering if any practitioners in the Western hemisphere out there have

noticed a subtle change in their own bodies or their patient's bodies over the

course of the last two weeks, and most specifically the last week.

 

Things I am interested in are:

 

1) Change in appetite. Generally needing less food, but without having a

corresponding loss of energy.

2) Increase in anxiety, or return of insomnia that was for the most part no

longer a problem.

3) Increase in sex drive or increase in source energy.

4) Changes in menstrual cycle, other then normal changes.

 

These are interesting questions, that I think if you ask your patients you might

find interesting answers to, I know I have, of the ten people that I have talked

to today.

 

Sincerely,

 

L.Ac.

The Database

Chinese Medicine

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

and why is that, do you suppose? something to do with the eclipse?

[Guest guest]

In a short answer yes.

It is normal for people to have changes during a full moon.

 

Normal full moon changes are:

Increased sex drive,

Changes in menstrual cycle (with a propensity to menstruate on either the full

or new moon (yin and yang right?), but menstruation is also complicated because

timing also depends on alpha/ beta/ pack dynamics)

and insomnia/ anxiety.

These are all fairly common things depending on the sensitivity of the person.

 

What is uncommon with this is eclipse, at least in my practice, is an across

the board decrease in appetite amongst my more sensitive patients within a one

or two week time period before the eclipse.

 

I have many different patients all with different diagnoses all saying that

they have noticed a significant decrease in appetite. This does not then seem

to be an individual occurrence, but more of a phenomenon. My belief is that a

change in hunger on this level would point to an increase in ambient energy/ qi

that is available/ digestible to people.

 

I posted this on the board, because I have asked all of the people that I know

personally in my area, and they have all responded the same. I wanted to see if

other practitioners noticed a similar occurrence in their area, or whether it

was a localized phenomenon to my area.

 

I have lived through a number of eclipses, but none that had any noticeable

effect on the way that I interact with my energetic surroundings. I am

wondering: what is the importance of this particular eclipse, which has changed

not just my own sensitivity, but has changed many of my patient’s sensitivity.

 

I find the study of astrology and land reading, as it was used with Chinese

medicine, fascinating. Our ancestors, in most major cultures, also noticed

changes in their bodies due to astrological events, and documented this in their

written traditions (Iatrromancy chapter by Donald Harper of Medieval Chinese

Medicine: The Dun Huang Manuscripts by Lo & Cullen). Even in modern Western

medicine, we are beginning to study how the outer cosmos affects our internal

cosmos.

 

For example, on Pub Med some scientists are doing research on solar flares and

health:

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18210919?ordinalpos=2 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17998801?ordinalpos=10 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

 

I believe that sensitivity to astrological and natural events was once part of

our medicine, and yet I have never been taught prohibitions about astrological

events. Most Qi Gong masters prohibit Qi Gong practice during a lightning

storm, and this carries over to acupuncture as well. But what about changes in

needling style in regards to phases of the moon, and not just the change of

seasons. And what of changes in needling style in regards to celestial events

such as lunar/ solar eclipses, or comets. This lunar eclipse brought some of

these questions to my forethought. In my own practice, I have moved down a gage

to using finer needles, and I will see if that changes my sensitive patients

overall experience.

 

I am wondering whether any of my colleagues have given thought to this subject

or have been taught from their teachers about eclipses, and other cosmological

events?

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

L.Ac.

The Database

Chinese Medicine

 

 

Sami Rank LAc <herbsnacupnxr wrote: and

why is that, do you suppose? something to do with the eclipse?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

well, of course the huang di nei jing has reference to needling style

on the various phases of the moon and seasons... can't recall the

chapter off hand.

[Guest guest]

Personally I also have lots more energy and lower appetite. i applaude your

recognizing this. i thought it was the ResQ Cell Power I was taking, the

MediHerbs Thyroid supplement or the fact I just returned from Sedona or had a

Quantum Biofeedback session......however, the change started about two weeks

before the eclipse and before I started thos supplements, so only returning from

a week in Sedona was there previously.

I would like more information on the astrology aspect from the Chinese if you

come across any.Sincerely,Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

: jonk2012:

Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:15:02 -0800Re: Re: Changes in Appetite

 

 

 

 

In a short answer yes.It is normal for people to have changes during a full

moon. Normal full moon changes are:Increased sex drive,Changes in menstrual

cycle (with a propensity to menstruate on either the full or new moon (yin and

yang right?), but menstruation is also complicated because timing also depends

on alpha/ beta/ pack dynamics)and insomnia/ anxiety.These are all fairly common

things depending on the sensitivity of the person. What is uncommon with this is

eclipse, at least in my practice, is an across the board decrease in appetite

amongst my more sensitive patients within a one or two week time period before

the eclipse.I have many different patients all with different diagnoses all

saying that they have noticed a significant decrease in appetite. This does not

then seem to be an individual occurrence, but more of a phenomenon. My belief is

that a change in hunger on this level would point to an increase in ambient

energy/ qi that is available/ digestible to people.I posted this on the board,

because I have asked all of the people that I know personally in my area, and

they have all responded the same. I wanted to see if other practitioners noticed

a similar occurrence in their area, or whether it was a localized phenomenon to

my area.I have lived through a number of eclipses, but none that had any

noticeable effect on the way that I interact with my energetic surroundings. I

am wondering: what is the importance of this particular eclipse, which has

changed not just my own sensitivity, but has changed many of my patient’s

sensitivity.I find the study of astrology and land reading, as it was used with

Chinese medicine, fascinating. Our ancestors, in most major cultures, also

noticed changes in their bodies due to astrological events, and documented this

in their written traditions (Iatrromancy chapter by Donald Harper of Medieval

: The Dun Huang Manuscripts by Lo & Cullen). Even in modern

Western medicine, we are beginning to study how the outer cosmos affects our

internal cosmos.For example, on Pub Med some scientists are doing research on

solar flares and

health:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18210919?ordinalpos=2 & itool=EntrezSyst\

em2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSumhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go\

v/pubmed/17998801?ordinalpos=10 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_Result\

sPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSumI believe that sensitivity to astrological and natural

events was once part of our medicine, and yet I have never been taught

prohibitions about astrological events. Most Qi Gong masters prohibit Qi Gong

practice during a lightning storm, and this carries over to acupuncture as well.

But what about changes in needling style in regards to phases of the moon, and

not just the change of seasons. And what of changes in needling style in regards

to celestial events such as lunar/ solar eclipses, or comets. This lunar eclipse

brought some of these questions to my forethought. In my own practice, I have

moved down a gage to using finer needles, and I will see if that changes my

sensitive patients overall experience.I am wondering whether any of my

colleagues have given thought to this subject or have been taught from their

teachers about eclipses, and other cosmological events?Sincerely,

L.Ac.The DatabaseChinese MedicineSami Rank LAc

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[Guest guest]

In Chapter 26 of the Nei Jing it says (I have MaoShing Ni's version p. 103):

" During the new moon, the blood and qi also begin to flow more easily. At the

height of the full moon, the blood and qi are full and the muscles become

strong. When the moon wanes, the channels and collaterals become empty of

blood. Wei qi decreases during this time. The muscles become less nourished.

One must follow the changes of nature to properly regulate qi and blood. "

 

This is the only reference in the Nei Jing that I can find to moon phases, and

doesn't tell me anything more then I previously stated about the moon phases.

Full moon = more qi & blood, New moon = less qi & blood. But it says nothing

about a change in appetite, nor does it mention eclipses (or other celestial

events like comets -- which I only mention here because it was a phenomenon that

would have been observable several hundred years ago.)

 

Also, it does not mention specific techniques that would be used during this

time (other then the obvious ones I can conjecture of supplementation and

reduction).

 

I know that there is other material out there on this, it is just a question of

accessing it. If someone has a Chinese reference, I would be interested to find

a text that talks more about this kind of thing.

 

Thank you Patricia for the validation. I definitely think something happened, I

just want to know what now.

 

Thank you Sami for the reference to the Nei Jing.

 

Sincerely,

 

L.Ac.

The Database

Chinese Medicine

 

 

 

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