Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Laura... I have a feeling that some of the weeds that you call your yard are very beneficial For dandelion and plantain ( the favorite plants used to show on round-up commercials )are to me, with yarrow the best medicinal herbs one can find. You just might need to find someone who can point them out to you C-M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Hi C-M, I am sure yard is full of great stuff, unfortunately I couldn't tell you what is what. I do love dandelion, thought. Mmmm, one of my favorite salads. I would love to be able to walk out into the yard and pick my lunch (I also have a bunch of great herbs growing wild around the house) but I am a bit hesitant. We moved here 6 months ago and I wonder if the previous owners used chemicals on the lawn or flower beds. Maybe someone can tell me how long the chemicals may affect the plants? We are even hesitant to drink the well water here because many of our neighbors use chemlawn. Laura On Fri, 07 May 2004 06:40:05 -0500 cmaria <cmaria writes: > Laura... > I have a feeling that some of the weeds that you call your yard are > > very beneficial > For dandelion and plantain ( the favorite plants used to show on > round-up commercials )are to me, with yarrow the best medicinal > herbs > one can find. > You just might need to find someone who can point them out to you > > C-M > ______________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Good thinking, Laura.. It can take years for the fertilizers to get out of your soil.. I thought your's was untreated, for you mentioned it was some sort of weedy patch? Usually that mean no pesticides had been used. About chemlawns and wells. All depends on how deep your wells are and how long chemlawn has been used. I would work with the health department on that, if nothing else to just get awareness going. Am sure they will tell you all is wonderful, but keep on probing... My peeve has been treated wood for decks and walks.. Especially since that material has been used in many wilderness preservation area for walks etc. NO ONE is looking at that and the synergistic effects it might bring to our water table. C-M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 On Fri, 07 May 2004 08:40:54 -0500 cmaria <cmaria writes: > Good thinking, Laura.. > It can take years for the fertilizers to get out of your soil.. > I thought your's was untreated, for you mentioned it was some sort > of > weedy patch? Well, sorta, about 3/4 of an acre is. It is a side yard that doesn't seem to have been maintained like around the house. It is also where the septic system is. And boy do things grow quick over there!! Don't know if I really want to grow my herbs over the septic system, but I am sure they would do well!! > I would work with the health department on that, if nothing else to > just > get awareness going. > Am sure they will tell you all is wonderful, but keep on probing... Yeah, I have been vocal about the amount of toxins in our city water (previous home 5 miles away) and I have always been told " insignificant " amounts that *shouldn't* harm the average healthy adult. hmmmm.... > My peeve has been treated wood for decks and walks.. > Especially since that material has been used in many wilderness > preservation area for walks etc. > NO ONE is looking at that and the synergistic effects it might bring > to > our water table. > C-M I couldn't agree more. I was called overly paranoid when I suggested that the playground should not use the treated wood. I think I will stop, it is definitely a sore spot with me!!! Laura ______________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Speaking of dandelions, my two little ones heard of dandelion salad, and are anxious to try it. So they went into the yard with a basket and picked a whole bunch of dandelion greens. But they taste yucky. Is there some special time to pick, or something to do to them before eating them? We live on five acres on a gravel road, so we don't get a lot of traffic to cover them with exhaust fumes or anything like that. Tracy *Some people only dream of angels; we held one in our arms.* Remembering Jacob March 8 - 9, 1996 Our Angel: http://sids-network.org/fp/jacob.htm - Laura T Sarbach Cc: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:46 AM Re: " noxious weeds " Hi C-M, I am sure yard is full of great stuff, unfortunately I couldn't tell you what is what. I do love dandelion, thought. Mmmm, one of my favorite salads. I would love to be able to walk out into the yard and pick my lunch (I also have a bunch of great herbs growing wild around the house) but I am a bit hesitant. We moved here 6 months ago and I wonder if the previous owners used chemicals on the lawn or flower beds. Maybe someone can tell me how long the chemicals may affect the plants? We are even hesitant to drink the well water here because many of our neighbors use chemlawn. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Hi Tracy, They are very bitter, and are also a powerful diuretic, so are best mixed into a salad with other greens. Mary Well, Naturally http://www.wellnaturally.com At 11:03 AM 5/7/2004 -0600, you wrote: >Speaking of dandelions, my two little ones heard of dandelion salad, and >are anxious to try it. So they went into the yard with a basket and >picked a whole bunch of dandelion greens. But they taste yucky. Is there >some special time to pick, or something to do to them before eating them? > >We live on five acres on a gravel road, so we don't get a lot of traffic >to cover them with exhaust fumes or anything like that. > >Tracy > >*Some people only dream of angels; we held one in our arms.* > Remembering Jacob March 8 - 9, 1996 > Our Angel: > <http://sids-network.org/fp/jacob.htm>http://sids-network.org/fp/jacob.htm > - > Laura T Sarbach > > Cc: > Friday, May 07, 2004 6:46 AM > Re: " noxious weeds " > > > Hi C-M, > I am sure yard is full of great stuff, unfortunately I > couldn't tell you what is what. > I do love dandelion, thought. Mmmm, one of my > favorite salads. I would love to be able to walk out > into the yard and pick my lunch (I also have a bunch of > great herbs growing wild around the house) but I am a > bit hesitant. We moved here 6 months ago and I wonder > if the previous owners used chemicals on the lawn or > flower beds. Maybe someone can tell me how long the > chemicals may affect the plants? We are even hesitant to > drink the well water here because many of our neighbors > use chemlawn. > Laura > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 The younger the leaves are, the mroe delicate the flavor (and the less potent...) To keep the kids interested, tell them to pick the baby leaves. After they realize that it's a marvelous plant ally, you can get them to eat the larger, more bitter (and beneficial) and tough leaves. And root! Julie In a message dated 5/7/2004 11:33:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, maryr writes: They are very bitter, and are also a powerful diuretic, so are best mixed into a salad with other greens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 California and other western states felt that they had to implement a radical SJW abatement program-it spreads pretty agressively over overgrazed land, and when cows eat lots of it, they can get the (much-dramatized but really quite rare, even in cows) photosensitivity that folk warn you about so much. In fact, they imported the Klamath Beetle which feeds on Klamath Weed (SJW) to reduce the spread of SJW. IIRC, now we have problems with Klamath beetle populations. Sheesh. Living in California, I cant get anyone to sell me any plants (it's actually llegal). Though I did buy some seeds, and am planning on subverting authority and planting some in my yard. Hey-how else can I make SJW oil? Gots ta have the fresh flowering tops... Julie In a message dated 5/6/2004 9:15:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, macbach writes: while doing a search for st. johns wort I came across a government site that listed noxious weeds. I was surprised to see st. johns wort (among others) was considered a noxious weed in many states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Julie, You better plant a good patch of SJW, it takes a lot of those flowers to get good oil.. C-M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 I personally have never eaten dandelion greens, but I was told just this week that you have to pick them before they flower to get the best ones. Mary Lou who is in her 80's said they are best with vinegar on them. Kathy Hohler - Tracy Rivera 5/7/2004 1:07:45 PM Re: " noxious weeds " Speaking of dandelions, my two little ones heard of dandelion salad, and are anxious to try it. So they went into the yard with a basket and picked a whole bunch of dandelion greens. But they taste yucky. Is there some special time to pick, or something to do to them before eating them? We live on five acres on a gravel road, so we don't get a lot of traffic to cover them with exhaust fumes or anything like that. Tracy *Some people only dream of angels; we held one in our arms.* Remembering Jacob March 8 - 9, 1996 Our Angel: http://sids-network.org/fp/jacob.htm - Laura T Sarbach Cc: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:46 AM Re: " noxious weeds " Hi C-M, I am sure yard is full of great stuff, unfortunately I couldn't tell you what is what. I do love dandelion, thought. Mmmm, one of my favorite salads. I would love to be able to walk out into the yard and pick my lunch (I also have a bunch of great herbs growing wild around the house) but I am a bit hesitant. We moved here 6 months ago and I wonder if the previous owners used chemicals on the lawn or flower beds. Maybe someone can tell me how long the chemicals may affect the plants? We are even hesitant to drink the well water here because many of our neighbors use chemlawn. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 In a message dated 5/7/2004 6:43:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, cmaria writes: Julie, You better plant a good patch of SJW, it takes a lot of those flowers to get good oil.. Yeah, they look a good harvest on the plant and in flower, but after picking and wilting, what a sad little bunch is left. So I'm planning on doing what I do with my calendula-just add them to the jar as they come up, rather than waiting for a full harvest. Luckily, I, too, live in zone 10 and so we have a nice long growing season! And so much better than paying the going rate for SJW oil. Like paying regular retail for tinctures after making your own. Ouch! Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 I personally have never eaten dandelion greens, but I was told just this week that you have to pick them before they flower to get the best ones. Mary Lou who is in her 80's said they are best with vinegar on them. Kathy Hohler My dad used to cook them a lot. He would saute some cut up bacon in a cast iron skillet, then, when it was cripsy, drop in the dandelions and wilt them, then put apple cider vinegar on them. It became comfort food for me when I was a child. My mouth still waters when I think of them. Neysa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 I've learned a few things over the years making SJW. Don't pick the greenest olive oil, it will make your color come out not nice. Don't use a huge jar, use a few smaller ones. ( That way, as happened to me, a racoon comes and knocks it over, you don't loose a gallon For the best oil, pick the flowers when the buds rub off in your fingers and stain your finger purple. Pick it on a day that's dry and hot, towards noon. use only the flowers, as little green as is possible. That way you will have good quality oil. For salves, I do use some of the first top greens with the flowers and slowly infuse the oil in a double water bath on the lowest heat I can get. When the oil turns red, it's done, than I add comfrey, plantain, calendula to it, which makes a great all purpose salve. And of course beeswax.. Also add a little poplarbud oil a pricked open Vit.D capsule and a dash of lavender. That salve heals about all that ails you... C-M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Mmm . . . Neysa, that sounds yummy. Thanks for all the tips and ideas for dandelions, y'all. We have a bunch of them, so we might as well do something with them. :-) Tracy New email address: rubberjunkie *Some people only dream of angels; we held one in our arms.* Remembering Jacob March 8 - 9, 1996 Our Angel: http://sids-network.org/fp/jacob.htm - My dad used to cook them a lot. He would saute some cut up bacon in a cast iron skillet, then, when it was cripsy, drop in the dandelions and wilt them, then put apple cider vinegar on them. It became comfort food for me when I was a child. My mouth still waters when I think of them. Neysa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Mmm . . . Neysa, that sounds yummy. Thanks for all the tips and ideas for dandelions, y'all. We have a bunch of them, so we might as well do something with them. :-) Dont tell me when you fix them. I will be TERRIBLY JEALOUS!!!! LOL Hugs Neysa " Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names. " JFK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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