RE: Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

[Guest guest]

Well

this is interesting.  I never knew chickens can eat mice?  What is the true

diet of a chicken?  I guess it depends on where they are located.  Have any

links on it, so I can read?  I know I can google it, but there are so many

websites I am sure, which is the best to be reading from though.  We are

thinking of one day having our own chickens. 

 

Thanks,

Lisa

 

 

There is a lot of ideology around food. Ironically

people who are so anxious to be totally " pure " separate themselves

more from Nature. The greatest insanity: eggs supposedly from " natural,

vegan chickens " .

 

 

 

 

 

Chickens will eat

mice with great glee. A chicken can be natural or vegan, but not both.

 

 

 

 

 

Ien in the

Kootenays

http://freegreenliving.com (blog)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

They are scavengers and scroungers. They eat a little of everything

that is around. They will happily ALL the insects they can get their

beaks on. In fact if you have free range chickens (truly free range)

you have no more flea and tick problems on your pets. They also eat

seeds and plants. The farm we go to for milk has free range chickens

(as in pull in slowly so they can get out of your way) and I remember

one time they apologized if the eggs were spicy because the chickens

had eaten a huge horseradish plant.

 

I have wondered about the " vegetarian chickens " because I know that a

truly free range chicken is in no way vegetarian. I am hoping they

are trying to say is that unlike commercial chicken/egg factories, the

chickens are not fed their own wastes and dead. No wonder they worry

about salmonella.

 

My mother (grew up in the 30's) said that they had never heard of

getting salmonella from raw eggs. Now the medical profession would

have it that the people who lived close to nature were just ignorant

of the nature of things. PLEASE! How much anecdotal evidence is

necessary before it is proof? For them it is never enough.

Ramona

 

Quoting Lisa Fisher <malica98:

 

> Well this is interesting. I never knew chickens can eat mice? What

> is the true diet of a chicken? I guess it depends on where they

> are located. Have any links on it, so I can read? I know I can

> google it, but there are so many websites I am sure, which is the

> best to be reading from though. We are thinking of one day having

> our own chickens.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

> Lisa

>

>

>

>

>

> There is a lot of ideology around food. Ironically people who are so

> anxious to be totally " pure " separate themselves more from Nature.

> The greatest insanity: eggs supposedly from " natural, vegan chickens " .

>

>

>

> Chickens will eat mice with great glee. A chicken can be natural or

> vegan, but not both.

>

>

>

> Ien in the Kootenays

> http://freegreenliving.com (blog)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

" Live in faith, not fear. "

[Guest guest]

Thanks for shedding some light on this, makes sense...I guess when we

get our own chickens, they will definitely not be vegetarian fed only

-Leah--- On Thu, 2/26/09, Ramona <ramona wrote:Ramona <ramonaRE: {Herbal Remedies} Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegansherbal remedies Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 10:05 AM

 

They are scavengers and scroungers. They eat a little of everything

that is around. They will happily ALL the insects they can get their

beaks on. In fact if you have free range chickens (truly free range)

you have no more flea and tick problems on your pets. They also eat

seeds and plants. The farm we go to for milk has free range chickens

(as in pull in slowly so they can get out of your way) and I remember

one time they apologized if the eggs were spicy because the chickens

had eaten a huge horseradish plant.

 

I have wondered about the "vegetarian chickens" because I know that a

truly free range chicken is in no way vegetarian. I am hoping they

are trying to say is that unlike commercial chicken/egg factories, the

chickens are not fed their own wastes and dead. No wonder they worry

about salmonella.

 

My mother (grew up in the 30's) said that they had never heard of

getting salmonella from raw eggs. Now the medical profession would

have it that the people who lived close to nature were just ignorant

of the nature of things. PLEASE! How much anecdotal evidence is

necessary before it is proof? For them it is never enough.

Ramona

 

Quoting Lisa Fisher <malica98 (AT) hughes (DOT) net>:

 

> Well this is interesting. I never knew chickens can eat mice? What

> is the true diet of a chicken? I guess it depends on where they

> are located. Have any links on it, so I can read? I know I can

> google it, but there are so many websites I am sure, which is the

> best to be reading from though. We are thinking of one day having

> our own chickens.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

> Lisa

>

>

>

>

>

> There is a lot of ideology around food. Ironically people who are so

> anxious to be totally "pure" separate themselves more from Nature.

> The greatest insanity: eggs supposedly from "natural, vegan chickens".

>

>

>

> Chickens will eat mice with great glee. A chicken can be natural or

> vegan, but not both.

>

>

>

> Ien in the Kootenays

> http://freegreenliv ing.com (blog)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

"Live in faith, not fear."

[Guest guest]



Hi Lisa,

 

I have SEEN chicken eat mice. Mice love nesting in the fluffy hay that is used as bedding for the chickens. Occasionally they get too bold, and the chickens will catch them and eat them.

This is good, because mice can transfer disease if they get out of hand.

 

Chickens will scratch around, if they have the freedom, and eat insects, grass seeds as well as any greenery around. If you want to make chickens that are free but inside an enclosure ecstatically happy, dig up a bit of the packed earth and watch them go after the worms.

 

After a long hiatus, when I got too tired of the heartbreak of losing birds to predators, I am getting ready to start a laying flock again, with heritage breeds.

 

But first we have to re-build the enclosure, and before we can start on that the snow has to melt.

 

Ien, Getting impatient in the Kootenays

http://freegreenliving.com

 

 

[Guest guest]



Hi Lisa,

 

Once, when I was pointing out a baby toad to my little boy, one of my chickens saw me and ran over and ate the poor toad right in front of us! I think they eat just about anything, even each other.

 

Debra Savage

 

 

-

Lisa Fisher

herbal remedies

Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:58 AM

RE: {Herbal Remedies} Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well this is interesting. I never knew chickens can eat mice? What is the true diet of a chicken? I guess it depends on where they are located. Have any links on it, so I can read? I know I can google it, but there are so many websites I am sure, which is the best to be reading from though. We are thinking of one day having our own chickens.

 

Thanks,Lisa

 

 

There is a lot of ideology around food. Ironically people who are so anxious to be totally "pure" separate themselves more from Nature. The greatest insanity: eggs supposedly from "natural, vegan chickens".

 

 

 

Chickens will eat mice with great glee. A chicken can be natural or vegan, but not both.

 

 

 

Ien in the Kootenayshttp://freegreenliving.com (blog)

[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for the information!  I’m not a city person, but

you can tell I wasn’t raised on a farm…  J

 

I guess we learn something all the time. 

 

THANKS!

 

Lisa

 

 

 

 

 

herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On

Behalf Of Debra Savage

Friday, February 27, 2009 2:58 PM

herbal remedies

Re: {Herbal Remedies} Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

Hi

Lisa,

 

 

 

 

 

Once,

when I was pointing out a baby toad to my little boy, one of my chickens saw me

and ran over and ate the poor toad right in front of us! I think they eat

just about anything, even each other.

 

 

 

 

 

Debra

Savage

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----

Original Message -----

 

 

Lisa Fisher

 

 

herbal remedies

 

 

Thursday, February

26, 2009 11:58 AM

 

 

RE: {Herbal

Remedies} Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well this is

interesting. I never knew chickens can eat mice? What is the true

diet of a chicken? I guess it depends on where they are located.

Have any links on it, so I can read? I know I can google it, but there

are so many websites I am sure, which is the best to be reading from though.

We are thinking of one day having our own chickens.

Thanks,

Lisa

There is a lot of ideology around food.

Ironically people who are so anxious to be totally " pure " separate

themselves more from Nature. The greatest insanity: eggs supposedly from

" natural, vegan chickens " .

 

 

Chickens will eat mice with great glee. A

chicken can be natural or vegan, but not both.

 

 

Ien in the Kootenays

http://freegreenliving.com (blog)

[Guest guest]

A few years ago I was digging my vegetable plot over, I had some very funny and friendly chickens at the time and they where walking about with me, whilst I was digging they where following me up and devouring every snail, slug, grub , worm , EVERYTHING that moved, I was amazed how much they devoured, the down side is I cannot even look at an egg now, let alone eat one, I loved eggs before, but something clicked in my mind after that !! Yes chickens WILL eat anything that moves that is small enough and those chickens where great layers for it and very healthy, it took mr Fox to finish them off!

Vince Nash

[Guest guest]

Interesting how much commentary on poultry diet. Yes in the wild, they are omnivores. Having a chicken on a vegetarian diet is bad. But remember that birds in general have very robust digestive systems. Almost all birds will eat insects, etc. There may be those that don't, but they are those with systems specialized for eating seeds. On the other hand, you have buzzards that can eat pounds of pure botulism and process it so that it is neutralized. The world is a wonderful, balanced, buffered system. Douglas Greene greenedo"The government's view of the economy can be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." --President Ronald Reagan, 1986VINCE NASH <vnashherbal remedies Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:33:45 AM{Herbal Remedies} Re: Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

 

A few years ago I was digging my vegetable plot over, I had some very funny and friendly chickens at the time and they where walking about with me, whilst I was digging they where following me up and devouring every snail, slug, grub , worm , EVERYTHING that moved, I was amazed how much they devoured, the down side is I cannot even look at an egg now, let alone eat one, I loved eggs before, but something clicked in my mind after that !! Yes chickens WILL eat anything that moves that is small enough and those chickens where great layers for it and very healthy, it took mr Fox to finish them off!

Vince Nash

[Guest guest]

How can you force a chicken to only eat vegetarian? They peck in the dirt for bugs.

 

 

 

-

doug greene

herbal remedies

Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:58 PM

Re: {Herbal Remedies} Re: Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

 

Interesting how much commentary on poultry diet. Yes in the wild, they are omnivores. Having a chicken on a vegetarian diet is bad. But remember that birds in general have very robust digestive systems. Almost all birds will eat insects, etc. There may be those that don't, but they are those with systems specialized for eating seeds. On the other hand, you have buzzards that can eat pounds of pure botulism and process it so that it is neutralized. The world is a wonderful, balanced, buffered system.

Douglas Greene greenedo"The government's view of the economy can be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." --President Ronald Reagan, 1986

 

 

 

 

VINCE NASH <vnashherbal remedies Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:33:45 AM{Herbal Remedies} Re: Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

 

 

 

 

 

A few years ago I was digging my vegetable plot over, I had some very funny and friendly chickens at the time and they where walking about with me, whilst I was digging they where following me up and devouring every snail, slug, grub , worm , EVERYTHING that moved, I was amazed how much they devoured, the down side is I cannot even look at an egg now, let alone eat one, I loved eggs before, but something clicked in my mind after that !! Yes chickens WILL eat anything that moves that is small enough and those chickens where great layers for it and very healthy, it took mr Fox to finish them off!

Vince Nash

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

By putting them in a sterile environment that does not allow them access to the dirt, bugs, or other such stuff - for example in cages stacked in a chicken factory, injected with hormones, and isolated from normality for a chicken. Douglas Greene greenedo"The government's view of the economy can be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." --President Ronald Reagan, 1986Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnumherbal remedies Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 3:52:17 AMRe: {Herbal Remedies} Re: Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

 

 

How can you force a chicken to only eat vegetarian? They peck in the dirt for bugs.

 

 

 

-

doug greene

herbal remedies

Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:58 PM

Re: {Herbal Remedies} Re: Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

 

Interesting how much commentary on poultry diet. Yes in the wild, they are omnivores. Having a chicken on a vegetarian diet is bad. But remember that birds in general have very robust digestive systems. Almost all birds will eat insects, etc. There may be those that don't, but they are those with systems specialized for eating seeds. On the other hand, you have buzzards that can eat pounds of pure botulism and process it so that it is neutralized. The world is a wonderful, balanced, buffered system.

Douglas Greene greenedo "The government's view of the economy can be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." --President Ronald Reagan, 1986

 

 

 

 

VINCE NASH <vnash (AT) btinternet (DOT) com>herbal remediesSaturday, February 28, 2009 4:33:45 AM{Herbal Remedies} Re: Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

 

 

 

 

 

A few years ago I was digging my vegetable plot over, I had some very funny and friendly chickens at the time and they where walking about with me, whilst I was digging they where following me up and devouring every snail, slug, grub , worm , EVERYTHING that moved, I was amazed how much they devoured, the down side is I cannot even look at an egg now, let alone eat one, I loved eggs before, but something clicked in my mind after that !! Yes chickens WILL eat anything that moves that is small enough and those chickens where great layers for it and very healthy, it took mr Fox to finish them off!

Vince Nash

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

herbal remedies , " Mercurius Trismegistus "

<magisterium_magnum wrote:

>

> How can you force a chicken to only eat vegetarian? They peck in the

dirt for bugs.

>

 

 

Caging them, or raising them on concrete. The so called 'cage free'

eggs come from birds that are put out into a yard for a certain number

of hours each day, but the yard is often concrete, so they can easily

hose it down and disinfect it. So cage free, vegetarian eggs are just

birds that are fed a commercial diet on concrete slabs.

 

Kim

Blessed Farm, WA

[Guest guest]

It is illegal to inject poultry with hormones in the USA, but don't

worry, they found that feeding them arsenic laced feed has the same

effect.

Ramona

 

Quoting doug greene <greenedo:

 

> By putting them in a sterile environment that does not allow them

> access to the dirt, bugs, or other such stuff - for example in

> cages stacked in a chicken factory, injected with hormones, and

> isolated from normality for a chicken.

>

> Douglas Greene

> greenedo

> " The government's view of the economy can be summed up in a few

> short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it.

> And if it stops moving, subsidize it. " --President Ronald Reagan,

> 1986

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum

> herbal remedies

> Sunday, March 1, 2009 3:52:17 AM

> Re: {Herbal Remedies} Re: Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

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>

> How can you force a chicken to only eat

> vegetarian? They peck in the dirt for bugs.

>

>

> -

> doug greene

> herbal remedies

> Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:58 PM

> Re: {Herbal Remedies} Re: Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

>

> Interesting how much commentary on poultry diet. Yes in the wild,

> they are omnivores. Having a chicken on a vegetarian diet is bad.

> But remember that birds in general have very robust digestive

> systems. Almost all birds will eat insects, etc. There may be

> those that don't, but they are those with systems specialized for

> eating seeds. On the other hand, you have buzzards that can eat

> pounds of pure botulism and process it so that it is neutralized.

> The world is a wonderful, balanced, buffered system.

>

> Douglas Greene

> greenedo

> " The government's view of the economy can be summed up in a few

> short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate

> it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. " --President Ronald

> Reagan, 1986

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> VINCE NASH <vnash (AT) btinternet (DOT) com>

> herbal remedies

> Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:33:45 AM

> {Herbal Remedies} Re: Ien-- Chickens was Vegetarians and Vegans

>

>

> A few years ago I was digging my vegetable plot over, I had some

> very funny and friendly chickens at the time and they where walking

> about with me, whilst I was digging they where following me up and

> devouring every snail, slug, grub , worm , EVERYTHING that moved, I

> was amazed how much they devoured, the down side is I cannot even

> look at an egg now, let alone eat one, I loved eggs before, but

> something clicked in my mind after that !! Yes chickens WILL eat

> anything that moves that is small enough and those chickens where

> great layers for it and very healthy, it took mr Fox to finish them

> off!

>

>

> Vince Nash

>

> ________________________________

>

>

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