Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 My son asked me yesterday, what would be the most valuable thing to have if the economy went bad; I answered food and water. He said gold, silver and precious stones; I reminded him you can't eat those things; food and water are essential to life, and if you have only gold, etc. to buy food you will eventually spend all your gold and not have food or water to last. To be prepared we need to have the means to sustain life, get a source of water and the seeds to plant, learn the plants and trees in your area (which are edible and which are healing plants). Teach the younger generations ways of survival; they are the ones who will need the knowledge the most. Be prepared to defend your food and water because there will be many who will want it and they be willing to destroy whatever gets in their way. Guns will be a help but unless you have the powder and the means to reload the casings you will find them useless; bows, arrows, knives, axes, spears will be the most enduring weapons, and I would strongly advise getting a smart dog. A dog can be used to alert you to danger and will be willing to defend his master. As far as forming a group, I have decided to get my loved ones as close to me as possible and set up ways of communication and travel between us. If it comes to the point we must come together for defense, there is one place we can all meet and defend to sustain our families. The less obvious we are the better our chances are for survival. The bigger the cities and towns the less chance for survival; crime will be rampant and there will be no law enforcement, medical help, etc.; look to the future and be ready. We can pray the time will not come but we would be foolish not to be ready when we have seen how history is repeating events, each recurrence is more disastrous. Call me an extremist but I feel the need to prepare. Susan in Ga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Dear Anella, This questions begs a "Yes" & a "No" answer. Too many people congregated into one area would earn you the label of "cult" and would draw unwanted attention. Best is to keep your own personal plans to yourself, or your group's plans to itself, and definitely do NOT publish anything private to the Internet since it has "zero" security to it. You want to use "Snail Mail" on these kinds of private comms = Low Tech is best for these kinds of things. Even telephones are fully computerized for eavesdropping nowadays. In regards setting up a new, or joining an existing community, there is a book called, "Creating A Life Together" by Diana Leafe Christian. I'd highly recommend buying and reading this book as it gives you the full in's and out's of community living, and the various varieties of it. You can live in the approximate area of your group, so that it's not "known" as a group = a group in an already recognized group = the best place to hide a book is in a Library ;o))) Valorie, Bryan, Kelly, Zea and I all live in western North Carolina, and I'd welcome anyone of like mind moving into the area even if was the next county over. LOL In Knowledge, Health & Freedom, Doc PS. The next few weeks articles are going to be on Preparedness. Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D. (Retired) 178 Carroll Mountain Drive, Hayesville, NC 28904 On 5/7/2010 6:35 PM, Anella Russo wrote: I can't help but wonder.... wouldn't it benefit all of us that are preparing in such ways to be close in proximity to one another? I know that I would be willing to move if I knew that I was in a like minded community. Just a thought. Anella On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Doc <Doc (AT) academyofnaturalhealing (DOT) com> wrote: http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=11746 Gerald Celente on the recent Stock Market Burp (sorry can't help being a little facetious here ;o))) Time to get prepared if you haven't started yet folks. 1. Get that Community Garden Started. 2. Get your own Garden Started. 3. Invest in some heirloom seeds. 4. Get out of the Stock Market, Bonds, and out of debt. 5. Invest a little in some Gold & Silver (Silver is best). 6. Buy a gun if you don't have one, with at least a thousand rounds per gun you have. 7. Get stocked up on Food and Water (get a gravity fed water purifier like a Katadyn, Berkey, or Aqua Rain). 8. Have Food Prep Equipment that doesn't rely on electricity such as Grain Mills, Hand Blenders, etc. 9. Create, or if you already have one, fill to the brim a full and complete Medical Kit. In Knowledge, Health, & Freedom, Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 I agree with this. You need to get to know your local farmers. They are key. Starting a Community Garden as in #1 is another way of forming a group that comes in under the radar for the most part. Best, Doc On 5/7/2010 10:02 PM, rattlesnake breeden wrote: Local farmers markets are the beginning of the communities already forming, Love --- On Fri, 5/7/10, Anella Russo <anellarusso > wrote: Anella Russo <anellarusso > Re: {Herbal Remedies} Be Prepared herbal remedies Friday, May 7, 2010, 5:35 PM I can't help but wonder.... wouldn't it benefit all of us that are preparing in such ways to be close in proximity to one another? I know that I would be willing to move if I knew that I was in a like minded community. Just a thought. Anella On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Doc <Doc@academyofnatura lhealing. com> wrote: http://eclipptv. com/viewVideo. php?video_ id=11746 Gerald Celente on the recent Stock Market Burp (sorry can't help being a little facetious here ;o))) Time to get prepared if you haven't started yet folks. 1. Get that Community Garden Started. 2. Get your own Garden Started. 3. Invest in some heirloom seeds. 4. Get out of the Stock Market, Bonds, and out of debt. 5. Invest a little in some Gold & Silver (Silver is best). 6. Buy a gun if you don't have one, with at least a thousand rounds per gun you have. 7. Get stocked up on Food and Water (get a gravity fed water purifier like a Katadyn, Berkey, or Aqua Rain). 8. Have Food Prep Equipment that doesn't rely on electricity such as Grain Mills, Hand Blenders, etc. 9. Create, or if you already have one, fill to the brim a full and complete Medical Kit. In Knowledge, Health, & Freedom, Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 What hint??? LOL Huh?!? These are very good points Lori. Hugs, Doc On 5/8/2010 9:44 AM, Lori Smith wrote: Hi Anella, Maybe I sound extremist, but I think your idea is not good as then the gov't knows where we all are! Think Waco and other compounds that were considered "dangerous" by the gov't where the gov't felt obligated to go in and kill innocent men, women, and children. In the case of David Koresh, he walked out and about in plain site in Waco and could have been arrested or apprehended at any time, instead, the gov't felt obligated to torch and burn to death women and children! There's always The Farm in Tennessee, and then there are communities in California reminiscent of the hippie era. I, for one, prefer as much anonymity as possible. I am not saying it would not be good for you (or others) to want to live in a like-minded community, I just would not want to have an entire community so easily identified. However, many people do start their communities and are so happy in them. As you can see, I am merely thinking out loud and do not see your idea as completely unfeasable, undoable, or wrong, I just know it would not work for me as I am so untrusting of our gov't. With all that said, perhaps one day we could all have a get together to meet and share ideas! I recieve Countryside and Small Stock Journal, there is a family in there who lives in Indiana on a large amount of acreage and every year they invite all the readers of the magazine to come camp out on their property one weekend in July. People bring their own camping gear, food, and own special talents to share. I've never gone, though it sounds like a blast! Maybe we can talk Doc or Bryan into doing something like this one day! (hint-hint) Lori "By preventing a free market in education, a handful of social engineers - backed by the industries that profit from compulsory schooling: teacher colleges, textbook publishers, materials suppliers, et al. - has ensured that most of our children will not have an education, even though they may be thoroughly schooled."– John Taylor Gatto He who cultivates his land will have plenty of food, but from idle pursuits a man has his fill of poverty. Proverbs 28:19 herbal remedies anellarusso Fri, 7 May 2010 18:35:54 -0400 Re: {Herbal Remedies} Be Prepared I can't help but wonder.... wouldn't it benefit all of us that are preparing in such ways to be close in proximity to one another? I know that I would be willing to move if I knew that I was in a like minded community. Just a thought. Anella On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Doc <Doc (AT) academyofnaturalhealing (DOT) com> wrote: http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=11746 Gerald Celente on the recent Stock Market Burp (sorry can't help being a little facetious here ;o))) Time to get prepared if you haven't started yet folks. 1. Get that Community Garden Started. 2. Get your own Garden Started. 3. Invest in some heirloom seeds. 4. Get out of the Stock Market, Bonds, and out of debt. 5. Invest a little in some Gold & Silver (Silver is best). 6. Buy a gun if you don't have one, with at least a thousand rounds per gun you have. 7. Get stocked up on Food and Water (get a gravity fed water purifier like a Katadyn, Berkey, or Aqua Rain). 8. Have Food Prep Equipment that doesn't rely on electricity such as Grain Mills, Hand Blenders, etc. 9. Create, or if you already have one, fill to the brim a full and complete Medical Kit. In Knowledge, Health, & Freedom, Doc The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Warms my heart but won't they be shot down too when the feds come around hungry for our gardens. I plan to buy some American flag arm patches for my shirts. This way when I am shot down the American soldiers know that they are killing there own. Of course this wouldn't do any good when it comes to foreign troops. I have read they plan to use foreign troops here while our boys are over seas doing the same thing to other peasants. We are stuck between a rock and a hard place. I guess it just sucks to be the little guy and words like equality, freedom, justice and liberty are words that need to be fought for all over again. ~B On 5/10/2010 10:52 AM, tita_mel wrote: There are communities where the town's police and sheriff (i forgot the term for it) has said when fed gets overbearing, they will not honor feds and forbid them from entering their town because these police and sheriff swear loylaty and will follow the constitution. Melly herbal remedies , mary colfer <Kitrina98 wrote: > > I hate to say it but I agree with Lori, the government sees people who think outside the box as dangerous. I am on several and people everywhere from all walks of life and spiritual paths are seeing/feeling something big is coming and that we need to prepare to take care of ourselves. There is safety in numbers but numbers bring attention to yourself. We are stuck in the middle between a rock and a hard place. > My two cents worth. > > >  Keep rosemary by your garden gate. Plant roses and lavender for luck. Fall in love whenever you can. > ~ Practical Magic > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I say, we all live normal lives on the outside but have a neighborhood of organic people living in harmony. I trade you some ground nuts for your extra raw milk. Win win situation. We could keep to ourselves but pay taxes. No one needs to know that we're all friends that moved to the same neighborhood and who sometimes meet up under the forest canopy for trade. The best place to hide a book is in a library.   ~B Foot paths!!!! No roads. On 5/9/2010 9:21 AM, mary colfer wrote:  I hate to say it but I agree with Lori, the government sees people who think outside the box as dangerous. I am on several and people everywhere from all walks of life and spiritual paths are seeing/feeling something big is coming and that we need to prepare to take care of ourselves. There is safety in numbers but numbers bring attention to yourself. We are stuck in the middle between a rock and a hard place. My two cents worth.  Keep rosemary by your garden gate. Plant roses and lavender for luck. Fall in love whenever you can. ~ Practical Magic --- On Sat, 5/8/10, Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> RE: {Herbal Remedies} Be Prepared "Bryan Schillington" <herbal_remedies > Saturday, May 8, 2010, 8:44 AM  Hi Anella,  Maybe I sound extremist, but I think your idea is not good as then the gov't knows where we all are! Think Waco and other compounds that were considered "dangerous" by the gov't where the gov't felt obligated to go in and kill innocent men, women, and children. In the case of David Koresh, he walked out and about in plain site in Waco and could have been arrested or apprehended at any time, instead, the gov't felt obligated to torch and burn to death women and children!  There's always The Farm in Tennessee, and then there are communities in California reminiscent of the hippie era.  I, for one, prefer as much anonymity as possible.  I am not saying it would not be good for you (or others) to want to live in a like-minded community, I just would not want to have an entire community so easily identified. However, many people do start their communities and are so happy in them. As you can see, I am merely thinking out loud and do not see your idea as completely unfeasable, undoable, or wrong, I just know it would not work for me as I am so untrusting of our gov't.  With all that said, perhaps one day we could all have a get together to meet and share ideas! I recieve Countryside and Small Stock Journal, there is a family in there who lives in Indiana on a large amount of acreage and every year they invite all the readers of the magazine to come camp out on their property one weekend in July. People bring their own camping gear, food, and own special talents to share. I've never gone, though it sounds like a blast! Maybe we can talk Doc or Bryan into doing something like this one day! (hint-hint)  Lori   "By preventing a free market in education, a handful of social engineers - backed by the industries that profit from compulsory schooling: teacher colleges, textbook publishers, materials suppliers, et al. - has ensured that most of our children will not have an education, even though they may be thoroughly schooled."– John Taylor Gatto  He who cultivates his land will have plenty of food, but from idle pursuits a man has his fill of poverty. Proverbs 28:19     herbal remedies anellarusso@ gmail.com Fri, 7 May 2010 18:35:54 -0400 Re: {Herbal Remedies} Be Prepared  I can't help but wonder.... wouldn't it benefit all of us that are preparing in such ways to be close in proximity to one another? I know that I would be willing to move if I knew that I was in a like minded community. Just a thought. Anella On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Doc <Doc@academyofnatura lhealing. com> wrote:  http://eclipptv. com/viewVideo. php?video_ id=11746 Gerald Celente on the recent Stock Market Burp (sorry can't help being a little facetious here ;o))) Time to get prepared if you haven't started yet folks. 1. Get that Community Garden Started. 2. Get your own Garden Started. 3. Invest in some heirloom seeds. 4. Get out of the Stock Market, Bonds, and out of debt. 5. Invest a little in some Gold & Silver (Silver is best). 6. Buy a gun if you don't have one, with at least a thousand rounds per gun you have. 7. Get stocked up on Food and Water (get a gravity fed water purifier like a Katadyn, Berkey, or Aqua Rain). 8. Have Food Prep Equipment that doesn't rely on electricity such as Grain Mills, Hand Blenders, etc. 9. Create, or if you already have one, fill to the brim a full and complete Medical Kit. In Knowledge, Health, & Freedom, Doc The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Bryan, Sounds like a cool way to live period! Lori "By preventing a free market in education, a handful of social engineers - backed by the industries that profit from compulsory schooling: teacher colleges, textbook publishers, materials suppliers, et al. - has ensured that most of our children will not have an education, even though they may be thoroughly schooled."– John Taylor Gatto He who cultivates his land will have plenty of food, but from idle pursuits a man has his fill of poverty. Proverbs 28:19 herbal remedies From: bryanDate: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:38:40 -0400Re: {Herbal Remedies} Be Prepared I say, we all live normal lives on the outside but have a neighborhood of organic people living in harmony. I trade you some ground nuts for your extra raw milk. Win win situation. We could keep to ourselves but pay taxes. No one needs to know that we're all friends that moved to the same neighborhood and who sometimes meet up under the forest canopy for trade. The best place to hide a book is in a library. ~BFoot paths!!!! No roads. On 5/9/2010 9:21 AM, mary colfer wrote: I hate to say it but I agree with Lori, the government sees people who think outside the box as dangerous. I am on several and people everywhere from all walks of life and spiritual paths are seeing/feeling something big is coming and that we need to prepare to take care of ourselves. There is safety in numbers but numbers bring attention to yourself. We are stuck in the middle between a rock and a hard place. My two cents worth. Keep rosemary by your garden gate. Plant roses and lavender for luck. Fall in love whenever you can.~ Practical Magic--- On Sat, 5/8/10, Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: {Herbal Remedies} Be Prepared"Bryan Schillington" <herbal_remedies >Saturday, May 8, 2010, 8:44 AM Hi Anella, Maybe I sound extremist, but I think your idea is not good as then the gov't knows where we all are! Think Waco and other compounds that were considered "dangerous" by the gov't where the gov't felt obligated to go in and kill innocent men, women, and children. In the case of David Koresh, he walked out and about in plain site in Waco and could have been arrested or apprehended at any time, instead, the gov't felt obligated to torch and burn to death women and children! There's always The Farm in Tennessee, and then there are communities in California reminiscent of the hippie era. I, for one, prefer as much anonymity as possible. I am not saying it would not be good for you (or others) to want to live in a like-minded community, I just would not want to have an entire community so easily identified. However, many people do start their communities and are so happy in them. As you can see, I am merely thinking out loud and do not see your idea as completely unfeasable, undoable, or wrong, I just know it would not work for me as I am so untrusting of our gov't. With all that said, perhaps one day we could all have a get together to meet and share ideas! I recieve Countryside and Small Stock Journal, there is a family in there who lives in Indiana on a large amount of acreage and every year they invite all the readers of the magazine to come camp out on their property one weekend in July. People bring their own camping gear, food, and own special talents to share. I've never gone, though it sounds like a blast! Maybe we can talk Doc or Bryan into doing something like this one day! (hint-hint) Lori "By preventing a free market in education, a handful of social engineers - backed by the industries that profit from compulsory schooling: teacher colleges, textbook publishers, materials suppliers, et al. - has ensured that most of our children will not have an education, even though they may be thoroughly schooled."– John Taylor Gatto He who cultivates his land will have plenty of food, but from idle pursuits a man has his fill of poverty. Proverbs 28:19 herbal remediesanellarusso@ gmail.comFri, 7 May 2010 18:35:54 -0400Re: {Herbal Remedies} Be Prepared I can't help but wonder.... wouldn't it benefit all of us that are preparing in such ways to be close in proximity to one another? I know that I would be willing to move if I knew that I was in a like minded community. Just a thought. Anella On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Doc <Doc@academyofnatura lhealing. com> wrote: http://eclipptv. com/viewVideo. php?video_ id=11746 Gerald Celente on the recent Stock Market Burp (sorry can't help being a little facetious here ;o)))Time to get prepared if you haven't started yet folks. 1. Get that Community Garden Started.2. Get your own Garden Started.3. Invest in some heirloom seeds. 4. Get out of the Stock Market, Bonds, and out of debt.5. Invest a little in some Gold & Silver (Silver is best).6. Buy a gun if you don't have one, with at least a thousand rounds per gun you have. 7. Get stocked up on Food and Water (get a gravity fed water purifier like a Katadyn, Berkey, or Aqua Rain). 8. Have Food Prep Equipment that doesn't rely on electricity such as Grain Mills, Hand Blenders, etc. 9. Create, or if you already have one, fill to the brim a full and complete Medical Kit.In Knowledge, Health, & Freedom,Doc The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. 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