Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I had two people tell me about this new product, E-zorb, which is being hailed as a good supplement for fibromyalgia, arthritis and osteoporosis. It is calcium aspartate anhydrous with some magnesium. One of the women said it was helping her fibromyalgia pain, the other thought it was helping her with osteoporosis, but who knows? Can anyone tell me about the benefits of mineral aspartates, and whether calcium aspartate is helpful in these conditions? I have not found good information on this. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Here in Australia it is generally accepted that you get sufficient Calcium in your diet and you only need Magnesium supplemented - often in quite large amounts, if you insist on taking the two minerals then you need to separate them and take one in the morning and the other at night. Jane " kotheimerdc " <kotheimerdc I had two people tell me about this new product, E-zorb, which is being hailed as a good supplement for fibromyalgia, arthritis and osteoporosis. It is calcium aspartate anhydrous with some magnesium. One of the women said it was helping her fibromyalgia pain, the other thought it was helping her with osteoporosis, but who knows? Can anyone tell me about the benefits of mineral aspartates, and whether calcium aspartate is helpful in these conditions? I have not found good information on this. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Apparently you (or Australia in general) is ahead of US on this. My own experiences with clients doing hair analysis suggests that only one out of three people here need any supplemental calcium whereas 2 out of 3 need magnesium. While I don't worry much about taking an aspartate form of magnesium or calcium since the excitoxic effect of aspartate is offset by the mineral itself, why go through the expense of taking calcium aspartate when the citrate form is just as well absorbed? In general, when taking mineral supplements, combinations of a variety of chelate forms are best absorbed while oxides and carbonates are the worst. --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote: Jane MacRoss <highfield1Re: Heard of E-zorb? Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 10:25 PM Here in Australia it is generally accepted that you get sufficient Calcium in your diet and you only need Magnesium supplemented - often in quite large amounts, if you insist on taking the two minerals then you need to separate them and take one in the morning and the other at night.Jane"kotheimerdc" <kotheimerdcI had two people tell me about this new product, E-zorb, which is being hailed as a good supplement for fibromyalgia, arthritis and osteoporosis.. It is calcium aspartate anhydrous with some magnesium. One of the women said it was helping her fibromyalgia pain, the other thought it was helping her with osteoporosis, but who knows? Can anyone tell me about the benefits of mineral aspartates, and whether calcium aspartate is helpful in these conditions? I have not found good information on this.Thanks---«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §Subscribe send email to: - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»GREAT VACATION RENTAL ON THE LAKE: www.vacationhomerentals.com/39833DISCLOSURE:Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE’S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP:By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators & affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred.If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach yourname and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record.You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributionsto the source of the material. Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material that you think are worthy.YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 As a rule, I prefer to give fibro patients twice the magnesium as calcium, Some of the magnesiun should be the malate form. Fibro patients should confirm their mineral needs via a hair analysis. There is more to life than just calcium and magnesium!--- On Mon, 3/23/09, kotheimerdc <kotheimerdc wrote: kotheimerdc <kotheimerdc Heard of E-zorb? Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 9:35 PM I had two people tell me about this new product, E-zorb, which is being hailed as a good supplement for fibromyalgia, arthritis and osteoporosis. It is calcium aspartate anhydrous with some magnesium. One of the women said it was helping her fibromyalgia pain, the other thought it was helping her with osteoporosis, but who knows? Can anyone tell me about the benefits of mineral aspartates, and whether calcium aspartate is helpful in these conditions? I have not found good information on this.Thanks---«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §Subscribe send email to: - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»GREAT VACATION RENTAL ON THE LAKE: www.vacationhomerentals.com/39833DISCLOSURE:Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE’S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP:By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators & affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred.If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach yourname and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record.You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributionsto the source of the material. Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material that you think are worthy.YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Very interesting array of replies. I believe the dangerous chemical to avoid is aspartame, which is a combination of the two amino acids apartic acid and phenylalanine, combined as a sweetener, and which combination is indeed dangerous. But if a mineral is chelated with the single amino acid, aspartic acid, it does not fall into the dangerous category. It is the combination of the two amino acids that is dangerous, no? I have found that the mineral aspartates are used for easy absorption, and for absorption into the cells, and I believe they are preferred in cardiovascular conditions, such as when a chelating effect is desired for the blood vessel walls. E-zorb suddenly appeared by way of these two women I mentioned, and I tried to get more information. Metagenics, DaVinci and a few other reputable companies sell mineral aspartates. I realize that the citrate and lactate and other chelated forms of calcium are well absorbed. But I was wondering if there was something special about the aspartate for the bones, joints and connective tissue. I too do not find that many people who are low in calcium, but when they are I want to get the right supplement if they can't get it from the diet. Of course digestion, vitamin D status, EFA's and parathyroid status are factors too. With hair analysis, isn't it more the ratio of minerals that is revealing than the amounts? , Tony De Angelis <tntstuart wrote: > > As a rule, I prefer to give fibro patients twice the magnesium as calcium, Some of the magnesiun should be the malate form. Fibro patients should confirm their mineral needs via a hair analysis. There is more to life than just calcium and magnesium! > > --- On Mon, 3/23/09, kotheimerdc <kotheimerdc wrote: > > > kotheimerdc <kotheimerdc > Heard of E-zorb? > > Monday, March 23, 2009, 9:35 PM > > > I had two people tell me about this new product, E-zorb, which is being hailed as a good supplement for fibromyalgia, arthritis and osteoporosis. It is calcium aspartate anhydrous with some magnesium. One of the women said it was helping her fibromyalgia pain, the other thought it was helping her with osteoporosis, but who knows? Can anyone tell me about the benefits of mineral aspartates, and whether calcium aspartate is helpful in these conditions? I have not found good information on this. > Thanks > > > > --- > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§\ «¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» > > § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! § > > > Subscribe send email to: - > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§\ «¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» > > GREAT VACATION RENTAL ON THE LAKE: www.vacationhomerentals.com/39833 > > DISCLOSURE: > Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE’S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. > > > SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP: > By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators & affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred. > > If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach your > name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record. > You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions > to the source of the material. Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material that you think are worthy. > > YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. > > IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 You are correct about hair analysis. The ratio of calcium to other minerals is more important than the amount.. Even if the calcium amount is high, it does not tell you that you are consuming too much but that you are absorbing too little and that the excretion of calcium into the hair and other soft tissue can be a problem in increasing the formation of stones and arthritic deposits. In the case where calcium is too high and other minerals are generally low, this indicates insufficient production of stomach acid (malabsorption). Also, minerals that enter a particular cell go to the place in the cell determined by the particular amino acid, sugar or fatty acid that it is attached to. Hence, the need for a taking more than one form of a mineral as a supplement and/or the need for a 'balanced' diet in terms of mineral-containing proteins and vegetables and essential fatty acids..--- On Tue, 3/24/09, kotheimerdc <kotheimerdc wrote: kotheimerdc <kotheimerdc Re: Heard of E-zorb? Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 10:31 PM Very interesting array of replies. I believe the dangerous chemical to avoid is aspartame, which is a combination of the two amino acids apartic acid and phenylalanine, combined as a sweetener, and which combination is indeed dangerous. But if a mineral is chelated with the single amino acid, aspartic acid, it does not fall into the dangerous category. It is the combination of the two amino acids that is dangerous, no?I have found that the mineral aspartates are used for easy absorption, and for absorption into the cells, and I believe they are preferred in cardiovascular conditions, such as when a chelating effect is desired for the blood vessel walls. E-zorb suddenly appeared by way of these two women I mentioned, and I tried to get more information. Metagenics, DaVinci and a few other reputable companies sell mineral aspartates. I realize that the citrate and lactate and other chelated forms of calcium are well absorbed. But I was wondering if there was something special about the aspartate for the bones, joints and connective tissue.I too do not find that many people who are low in calcium, but when they are I want to get the right supplement if they can't get it from the diet. Of course digestion, vitamin D status, EFA's and parathyroid status are factors too.With hair analysis, isn't it more the ratio of minerals that is revealing than the amounts? , Tony De Angelis <tntstuart wrote:>> As a rule, I prefer to give fibro patients twice the magnesium as calcium, Some of the magnesiun should be the malate form. Fibro patients should confirm their mineral needs via a hair analysis. There is more to life than just calcium and magnesium!> > --- On Mon, 3/23/09, kotheimerdc <kotheimerdc.> wrote:> > > kotheimerdc <kotheimerdc.>> Heard of E-zorb?> > Monday, March 23, 2009, 9:35 PM> > > I had two people tell me about this new product, E-zorb, which is being hailed as a good supplement for fibromyalgia, arthritis and osteoporosis. It is calcium aspartate anhydrous with some magnesium. One of the women said it was helping her fibromyalgia pain, the other thought it was helping her with osteoporosis, but who knows? Can anyone tell me about the benefits of mineral aspartates, and whether calcium aspartate is helpful in these conditions? I have not found good information on this.> Thanks> > > > ---> > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»> > § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §> > > Subscribe send email to: - > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»> > GREAT VACATION RENTAL ON THE LAKE: www.vacationhomerentals.com/39833> > DISCLOSURE:> Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE’S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.> > > SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP:> By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators & affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred.> > If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach your> name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record.> You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions> to the source of the material. Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material that you think are worthy.> > YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. > > IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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