mange

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I have Peanut, male, Pom, about 10 years of age with a bad case of mange. I have been trying for about a month using a lot of homeopathy remedies, bathing, spraying rugs, building his immunity system. but I don't seem to be getting on top of it. Is there anything else that is not harmful that I might be trying? Edith

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I understand Miracle II products cure this but cannot speak here from personal experience / no financial interest either.

 

Jane

 

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Edith Ziegler

Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:01 PM

mange

 

I have Peanut, male, Pom, about 10 years of age with a bad case of mange. I have been trying for about a month using a lot of homeopathy remedies, bathing, spraying rugs, building his immunity system. but I don't seem to be getting on top of it. Is there anything else that is not harmful that I might be trying? Edith

 

 

 

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The skin is a reflection of your dog's internal organs and how healthy or

unhealthy they are. The skin is kind of like a mirror of what=s happening in

the deep layers of the body. If your dog's internal detoxification organs

(intestine, liver, kidneys) are working properly and doing their daily job of

detoxification and they are not overburdened (congested), then the skin will

feel soft, and look beautiful.

 

The skin is the largest elimination organ, and it'll take over the burden of

elimination when your dog is out of balance internally - when his detoxification

organs are congested and cannot do their job, specifically the intestinal tract,

liver, and kidneys. When the body is out of balance, it=s prone to a lot of

physical problems, for instance skin problems. Animals with healthy immune

systems, good digestion, and ample nutrition live relatively free of physical

discomfort.

 

When the liver is congested and cannot perform its eliminative function, waste

matter (toxins) is thrown into the blood stream. Toxic blood must discharge its

toxins, so nature uses vicarious avenues of elimination or substitutes. The

lungs, therefore, will take over the task of eliminating some of the wastes that

should have gone through the kidneys, or the skin will take over for the liver.

If the bile poisons in the blood come out through the skin, we get the various

irritations of the skin, such as boils, carbuncles, acne, etc. Thus, the skin is

substituting for the liver, or a vicarious elimination is occurring through the

skin.

 

The best cure for your dog's skin is to eat the best diet and get his detox

system working better by adding whole food supplements to support the internal

organs.

 

In terms of the diet, eliminate all grains from his diet. Dog's have short

intestinal tract and they don't have the proper enzymes to process grains, so

they can be very allergic to grain, especially corn. Also, try to give your dog

some fresh fruits to build up vitamins and minerals (bananas, figs, dates,

mangoes, papayas....etc.).

 

By supporting the immune system, supporting the digestive tract, and

supplementing micronutrients and antioxidants, it will really benefit animals

suffering from any type of physical discomfort. And if we don=t improve their

immune system, digestion, and overall nutrition, even taking them to the vet

with medical intervention won't achieve the results you want, since vets

normally just treat the symptoms.

 

Keep in mind that the skin is the largest elimination organ and whatever the

body is trying to eliminate through the skin, you just have to let it happen and

not cover the symptoms with medications.

 

When you understand the relationship between nutrition and health, you can

understand that the miracle of healing lies in your dog's body, and all that you

have to do is feed him well and give him the foundation of probiotics, enzymes,

and micronutritents, and I'm sure you'll see your dog's skin becoming radiant

and healthy looking.

 

First, build your dog's friendly bacteria population in the intestinal tract to

keep the immune system strong with Bifidus (http://www.tinyurl.com/26rur)

 

Second, since dry and canned food is processed and there is no enzymatic

activity, add enzymes to aid in his digestion http://www.tinyurl.com/mkwo).

 

And third, add micronutrients to fill in the gaps in your dog's nutrition

(http://www.tinyurl.com/muru).

 

Antioxidant Lotion with Beta Glucan (http://tinyurl.com/2q4md) (Beta glucan is

an antioxidant and will help stimulate the skin's immune system and hasten the

skin's repair from damage. This was originally developed for people [hence the

name " NutraBeautiful " ], but works great with skin problems in animals as well.)

 

These supplements are based on real food and are natural and/or organic. Whole

food supplementation and a slight change in your dog's diet is the most sensible

way to address skin problems.

 

Some of the better grain-free dog foods you may want to change to (if you do a

google search you will find many others available in your own area):

Artemis

Wellness

Nature's Variety

Innova Evo

Ziwipeak

Primal Pet Foods

Wysong Au Jus All Meats

Northwest Naturals Raw Dog Food

Natural Balance Fish & Sweet Potato Dry Dog Food

Raw Advantage Organic Critical Care for Dogs

Raw Advantage Organic Only Meat

 

Other things to consider that the dog may be reacting to that result in skin

irritations:

Recent vaccinations?

Recently treated for heartworm? (vaccinations or heartworm treatment can trigger

mange or autoimmune conditions)

New carpeting?

New flea collar or flea treatment in area?

A new bed?

Food dishes plastic? (Don't use! Can cause liver stress)

Pesticides/herbicides where dog walks?

Toxic pet foods/treats (have they been recalled?)

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Mange is a mite... I wonder if dusting the dog (as well as any sleeping

areas, his/her blankets, etc) w/ food grade DE would be effective? I have

read that DE (again, use codex food grade only) gets rid of mites in

chickens, by dusting their pen and nesting areas....but it is a different

type of mite...

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, " bluegreensolutions "

<bluegreensolutions wrote:

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> The skin is a reflection of your dog's internal organs and how healthy or

unhealthy they are.

>

> When the liver is congested and cannot perform its eliminative function, The

best cure for your dog's skin is to eat the best diet and get his detox system

working better by adding whole food supplements to support the internal organs.

Keep in mind that the skin is the largest elimination organ and whatever the

body is trying to eliminate through the skin, you just have to let it happen and

not cover the symptoms with medications.

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Thank you for your reply and all the others that have replied. I am quite

aware of how the skin reflects what the dogs state of health is. ( Oh my that

sounds as though I am being a know it all ) I have spent 3 years with this dog

trying to get his system healthy. He never gets dog food, store bought treats,

I either cook or give them raw foods. His system is very finicky and if you

give him too much raw meat it will go through him lickety split. I have

added Astro yogurt to his food, given him some straight from the container, he

is not keen on fruits but will eat the seeds the bird is determined to throw on

the floor. He gets a huge variety of raw meat, plus some rice to keep his

system from getting to loose. I have spent eons of time with this dog, trying

to figure out what is the best diet for him.

As for vaccinations he has not had any in 3 years but I know before that

he was vaccinated to the hilt. I have been detoxifying his system and now we

have a full blown case of mange. I can feel them crawling on me. Not fun. I

tried bathing him with natural shampoo that did nothing so I am using

Palmolive Dish soap. It does not bother my hands and I have very sensitive

skin so I am hoping this will help him too. HE is losing so much hair he

looks pathetic. When I got him he had yellow sticky scaley stuff all over his

body. It took quite some time but I managed to get that under control. Thanks

again to every one. I am going to try that Borax and see if by some chance

that will help him. Edith

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The best non toxic remedy that I have used which worked when mange caused my

chihuahua mix to lose all of her fur on both ears was NEEM OIL. Keep applying

the oil (rub into the exposed skin) as many times per day as you can and within

about a week or two, it will kill the mange mite and the fur will grow back

nicely. Josephine

 

 

, " Edith Ziegler " <edefreedom1945

wrote:

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> I have Peanut, male, Pom, about 10 years of age with a bad case of mange. I

have been trying for about a month using a lot of homeopathy remedies,

bathing, spraying rugs, building his immunity system. but I don't seem to

be getting on top of it. Is there anything else that is not harmful that I

might be trying? Edith

>

[Guest guest]

, " edefreedom1945 " <edefreedom1945

wrote:

 

 

 

 

<<<I have spent 3 years with this dog trying to get his system healthy. He

never gets dog food, store bought treats, I either cook or give them raw

foods. His system is very finicky and if you give him too much raw meat it

will go through him lickety split.>>>>

 

 

Dear Edith,

 

 

Raw is best. Rely on whole raw foods for the bulk of your dog's diet, and keep

cooked foods to a minimum, as raw animal based foods contain the most

bioavailable nourishment possible to your dog. As sick as your boy is, he needs

the best, highest quality nourishment he can get to help support his immune

system and give him the energy and strength to regain his health.

 

Bear in mind that all domestic dogs, no matter how they look on the outside, are

almost identical on the inside, in terms of their anatomy and physiology, to

gray wolves. This means your dog is a carnivore, and his body was designed to

to eat animal based food in its raw state, just like every other carnivore ever

born on this planet.

 

You don't mention raw meaty bones or organs. Do you feed him any of these? If

not, you need to do so asap, as they are essential for his health.

 

Ideally, your dog's diet should include plenty of raw muscle meat (around 80% or

so) along with some raw meaty bones (approximately 10-15%) and raw organs

(5-10%). Increasing your pup's intake of RMBs will help to firm up his stools,

while feeding more boneless meat and organs may tend to loosen things up.

However it's important to bear in mind that feeding at least some internal

organs on a regular basis, particularly the squishy ones like liver, kidney,

pancreas etc, is particularly vital, as these body parts are concentrated

sources of certain essential nutrients that cannot be obtained from either

muscle meat or RMBs.

 

Using these guidelines and feeding these approximate proportions of body parts

over time (in other words, you don't have to feed these ratios at each meal, but

rather aim for them over the long haul, in the grand scheme of things) is the

most natural way to go because it mimics the the proportions of parts Mother

nature uses when she feeds prey animals to carnivores in the wild. You can

always play with the proportions to fine tune things for your individual dog, so

if he needs more RMBs to keep his stools from being runny, so be it.

 

 

 

 

<<<I have added Astro yogurt to his food, given him some straight from the

container, he is not keen on fruits>>>>

 

 

 

Remember, your dog is a carnivore. Yogurt and fruits are high in sugary

carbohydrates, which your dog's body is not designed to handle in any quantity.

While the odd fruity or yogurty treat is probably fine now and again for a

healthy dog, an excess of carbs in any dog's diet can tend to cause skin

irritation. So I'd suggest you stick to raw meat, RMBs and raw organs for now,

particularly until your pup recovers from his current challenges.

 

 

 

 

 

 

<<<<but will eat the seeds the bird is determined to throw on the floor. He

gets a huge variety of raw meat, plus some rice to keep his system from getting

to loose.>>>>

 

 

 

 

Ditch the rice asap. It's just a source of more unnatural starches that have no

place in the diet of a carnivore. (Think about it...when was the last time you

heard of a pack of wolves stalking, hunting and bringing down a bunch of rice

grains from a rice paddy? Much less lighting a fire, boiling some water and

cooking a pot of rice to eat...)

 

Think of it this way: the more unnatural, non-bioavailable grain/carb filled

foods you feed your dog, the less room there'll be in his diet for the kind of

truly nourishing, bioavailable, animal based foods upon which carnivores thrive.

And high quality, digestible nourishment is exactly what he needs right now to

help him get well, so it's really important to make this your focus.

 

Instead of relying on starchy grains to help bind your pup's stools, start

increasing the amount of RMBs your boy is eating until his eliminations become

firmer. Get things like whole Cornish game hens, chickens, whole small fish,

bone-in turkey, rabbit and/or duck breasts, butcher them into reasonable sized

hunks, and hand them to your boy so he can rip, tear and gnaw them apart. You

can also smash them for him with a hammer initially if necessary if he's not

used to crunching on bones. He may even be able to handle small pork or lamb

ribs, and even if he can't crunch through them, using his teeth and jaws to

strip them bare will give his teeth and gums a fantastic workout, which will do

wonders for his oral health.

 

And unless you're regularly feeding him pastured meats and/or oily fleshed fish

like salmon, mackerel, etc, you should also be supplementing your dog's diet

with some high quality fish oil to ensure he's getting adequate amounts of omega

3 EFAs.

 

 

 

>>I have spent eons of time with this dog, trying to figure out what is the best

diet for him.>>>

 

 

 

 

Check out these sites for more information on the best (raw!) diet for your (or

any) dog:

 

 

 

http://www.coastalgsr.org/RawFood101.htm

 

http://www.rawfeddogs.net/

 

http://www.runamokfarm.com/AdvancedK9Health.html

 

 

 

Also, consider joining this group, 15,000+ strong, where you can read thousands

of archived messages and get some of the best support and advice from loads of

very experienced raw feeders on the most natural and wholesome ways to ensure

your dog is getting the highest quality nourishment possible:

 

 

 

http://pets.rawfeeding/

 

 

 

>>>As for vaccinations he has not had any in 3 years but I know before that he

was vaccinated to the hilt.>>>

 

 

 

Vaccines can do untold damage. The best way to reverse vaccine damage in

domestic pets is with homeopathy prescribed by a classical homeopath. Check out

these groups for more information:

 

 

 

http://health.ClassicalHomeopathyPets/

 

http://pets.TruthAboutVaccines/

 

 

 

 

<<<I have been detoxifying his system and now we have a full blown case of

mange. I can feel them crawling on me. Not fun. I tried bathing him with

natural shampoo that did nothing so I am using Palmolive Dish soap.>>>>

 

 

 

Yikes... I'd suggest you stop using this immediately, as it contains harsh

detergents, artificial colors and other toxic ingredients that are being

absorbed directly into your dog's bloodstream via the skin.

 

 

Here's a link describing the treatment you should be using:

 

 

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

 

 

And here are some before and after photos of dogs that were cured using this

protocol:

 

 

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure_photos.html

 

 

 

Good luck, and please let us know how it goes!

 

 

Elan

[Guest guest]

Hi Edith,

Why use borax when it is so harsh for the skin? Why not go to the health food

store and look for a small 2 ounce bottle of NEEM OIL? When I had a scabies

outbreak on my skin, the neem oil killed the mite and dried the area up in a

week. Like I said before, rubbing the neem oil on my dogs ears also killed the

mange mite. Good stuff and very gentle to the skin. Josephine

 

 

Thanks again to every one. I am going to try that Borax and see if by some

chance that will help him. Edith

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