Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Really cool, glad to hear it! On Jan 6, 2009, at 5:53 PM, yehuda frischman wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I want to report about an herb we all know about, but generally tend > to save for kids with Qi vacuity: Tai Zi Ren. As you may know, my > wife has suffered for many years from a complicated neurological > disorder manifesting with cyclical epileptic seizures and > concurrently spasms and tremors. I don't want to go to the > specifics of her disorder, and those interested are welcome to view > the archives where I have written extensively about her. What I > want to tell you, though, is that I have used various combinations > of herbs which supplement Qi, as she is very weak, along with being > severely Yin vacuous. They just haven't worked, not at all, > especially not Xi Yang Shen. I keep going back to it, either by > itself, or with Huang Qi, depending upon the time of the month (when > she is close to seizure time I have avoided Huang Qi because of its > upward direction irritating the brain). I had the idea to try Tai > Zi Ren, and remarkably, for the first > time in months, her voice is louder, she is speaking clearer and she > is walking erect. In a complicated decoction, I originally used > 27g and now, in the second formula I am using 21g. I was always > led to believe that Tai Zi Shen was a relatively weak second cousin > to Ren Shen and Dang Shen, but moister and cooler, but this anecdote > I feel illustrates an important principle: more is not necessarily > better, and the importance of finding the right fit when using herbs > in formulae can't be overemphasized. I have recently also used it > with a 2 year old infant who suffered from a 2 month non-stop > barking cough, very thirsty and with watery diarrhea, using Xie Bai > San as the basis. The result: The cough stopped today, the second > day on the formula. Again, the right fit. > > Respectfully, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Dear Colleagues, I want to report about an herb we all know about, but generally tend to save for kids with Qi vacuity: Tai Zi Ren. As you may know, my wife has suffered for many years from a complicated neurological disorder manifesting with cyclical epileptic seizures and concurrently spasms and tremors. I don't want to go to the specifics of her disorder, and those interested are welcome to view the archives where I have written extensively about her. What I want to tell you, though, is that I have used various combinations of herbs which supplement Qi, as she is very weak, along with being severely Yin vacuous. They just haven't worked, not at all, especially not Xi Yang Shen. I keep going back to it, either by itself, or with Huang Qi, depending upon the time of the month (when she is close to seizure time I have avoided Huang Qi because of its upward direction irritating the brain). I had the idea to try Tai Zi Ren, and remarkably, for the first time in months, her voice is louder, she is speaking clearer and she is walking erect. In a complicated decoction, I originally used 27g and now, in the second formula I am using 21g. I was always led to believe that Tai Zi Shen was a relatively weak second cousin to Ren Shen and Dang Shen, but moister and cooler, but this anecdote I feel illustrates an important principle: more is not necessarily better, and the importance of finding the right fit when using herbs in formulae can't be overemphasized. I have recently also used it with a 2 year old infant who suffered from a 2 month non-stop barking cough, very thirsty and with watery diarrhea, using Xie Bai San as the basis. The result: The cough stopped today, the second day on the formula. Again, the right fit. Respectfully, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 It's been one of my favorite herbs as well. I assume you meant Tai Zi shen below. Glad it's working for your wife as well as your child patient. Doug , yehuda frischman < wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > I want to report about an herb we all know about, but generally tend to save for kids with Qi vacuity: Tai Zi Ren. As you may know, my wife has suffered for many years from a complicated neurological disorder manifesting with cyclical epileptic seizures and concurrently spasms and tremors. I don't want to go to the specifics of her disorder, and those interested are welcome to view the archives where I have written extensively about her. What I want to tell you, though, is that I have used various combinations of herbs which supplement Qi, as she is very weak, along with being severely Yin vacuous. They just haven't worked, not at all, especially not Xi Yang Shen. I keep going back to it, either by itself, or with Huang Qi, depending upon the time of the month (when she is close to seizure time I have avoided Huang Qi because of its upward direction irritating the brain). I had the idea to try Tai Zi Ren, and remarkably, for the first > time in months, her voice is louder, she is speaking clearer and she is walking erect. In a complicated decoction, I originally used 27g and now, in the second formula I am using 21g. I was always led to believe that Tai Zi Shen was a relatively weak second cousin to Ren Shen and Dang Shen, but moister and cooler, but this anecdote I feel illustrates an important principle: more is not necessarily better, and the importance of finding the right fit when using herbs in formulae can't be overemphasized. I have recently also used it with a 2 year old infant who suffered from a 2 month non-stop barking cough, very thirsty and with watery diarrhea, using Xie Bai San as the basis. The result: The cough stopped today, the second day on the formula. Again, the right fit. > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Oops, of course you are right, Doug, I meant Tai Zi Shen. --- On Wed, 1/7/09, wrote: Re: Tai Zi Ren-the right fit Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 4:11 PM It's been one of my favorite herbs as well. I assume you meant Tai Zi shen below. Glad it's working for your wife as well as your child patient. Doug , yehuda frischman <@.. .> wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > I want to report about an herb we all know about, but generally tend to save for kids with Qi vacuity: Tai Zi Ren. As you may know, my wife has suffered for many years from a complicated neurological disorder manifesting with cyclical epileptic seizures and concurrently spasms and tremors. I don't want to go to the specifics of her disorder, and those interested are welcome to view the archives where I have written extensively about her. What I want to tell you, though, is that I have used various combinations of herbs which supplement Qi, as she is very weak, along with being severely Yin vacuous. They just haven't worked, not at all, especially not Xi Yang Shen. I keep going back to it, either by itself, or with Huang Qi, depending upon the time of the month (when she is close to seizure time I have avoided Huang Qi because of its upward direction irritating the brain). I had the idea to try Tai Zi Ren, and remarkably, for the first > time in months, her voice is louder, she is speaking clearer and she is walking erect. In a complicated decoction, I originally used 27g and now, in the second formula I am using 21g. I was always led to believe that Tai Zi Shen was a relatively weak second cousin to Ren Shen and Dang Shen, but moister and cooler, but this anecdote I feel illustrates an important principle: more is not necessarily better, and the importance of finding the right fit when using herbs in formulae can't be overemphasized. I have recently also used it with a 2 year old infant who suffered from a 2 month non-stop barking cough, very thirsty and with watery diarrhea, using Xie Bai San as the basis. The result: The cough stopped today, the second day on the formula. Again, the right fit. > > Respectfully, > > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 You mean Tai zi shen? Tai zi shen is a great herb, the best herbs are those that are safe for long-term use, those are true " tonics " in the superior " heaven " class of herbs. The best Tai zi shen is thick and very wrinkled. Huang jing is another herb some view as a weak ginseng substitute but is an excellent long-term tonic... Chinese Medicine , yehuda frischman < wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > � > I want to report about an herb we all know about, but generally tend to save for kids with Qi vacuity:� Tai Zi Ren.� As you may know, my wife has suffered for many years from a complicated neurological disorder manifesting with cyclical epileptic�seizures and concurrently spasms and tremors.� I don't want to go to the specifics of her disorder, and those interested are welcome to view the archives where I have written extensively about her.� What I want to tell you, though, is that I have used various combinations of herbs which supplement Qi, as she is very weak, along with being severely Yin vacuous.� They just haven't worked, not at all, especially not Xi Yang Shen.� I keep going back to it, either by itself, or with Huang Qi, depending upon the time of the month (when she is close to seizure time I have avoided Huang Qi because of its upward direction irritating the brain).��I had the idea to try Tai Zi Ren, and remarkably, for the first > time in months,�her voice is louder,�she is speaking clearer and she is walking erect.��� In a�complicated decoction, I originally used 27g and now, in the second formula I am using 21g.��� I was always�led to believe that Tai Zi Shen was a relatively weak second cousin to Ren�Shen�and Dang Shen,�but moister and cooler, but this anecdote I feel�illustrates an important principle:� more is not necessarily better, and�the importance�of finding the right fit when using herbs in formulae can't be overemphasized.� I have recently also used it�with a 2�year old infant who suffered from a 2 month non-stop barking�cough,�very thirsty and with watery diarrhea, using Xie Bai San as the basis.�� The result:� The cough stopped today, the second day on the formula.� Again, the right fit. > � > Respectfully, > > > > > � > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I agree. --- On Thu, 1/8/09, jasonwcom <jasonwcom wrote: jasonwcom <jasonwcom Re: Tai Zi Ren-the right fit Chinese Medicine Thursday, January 8, 2009, 10:00 AM You mean Tai zi shen? Tai zi shen is a great herb, the best herbs are those that are safe for long-term use, those are true " tonics " in the superior " heaven " class of herbs. The best Tai zi shen is thick and very wrinkled. Huang jing is another herb some view as a weak ginseng substitute but is an excellent long-term tonic... Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , yehuda frischman <@.. .> wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > � > I want to report about an herb we all know about, but generally tend to save for kids with Qi vacuity:� Tai Zi Ren.� As you may know, my wife has suffered for many years from a complicated neurological disorder manifesting with cyclical epileptic�seizures and concurrently spasms and tremors.� I don't want to go to the specifics of her disorder, and those interested are welcome to view the archives where I have written extensively about her.� What I want to tell you, though, is that I have used various combinations of herbs which supplement Qi, as she is very weak, along with being severely Yin vacuous.� They just haven't worked, not at all, especially not Xi Yang Shen.� I keep going back to it, either by itself, or with Huang Qi, depending upon the time of the month (when she is close to seizure time I have avoided Huang Qi because of its upward direction irritating the brain).��I had the idea to try Tai Zi Ren, and remarkably, for the first > time in months,�her voice is louder,�she is speaking clearer and she is walking erect.��� In a�complicated decoction, I originally used 27g and now, in the second formula I am using 21g.��� I was always�led to believe that Tai Zi Shen was a relatively weak second cousin to Ren�Shen�and Dang Shen,�but moister and cooler, but this anecdote I feel�illustrates an important principle:� more is not necessarily better, and�the importance�of finding the right fit when using herbs in formulae can't be overemphasized.� I have recently also used it�with a 2�year old infant who suffered from a 2 month non-stop barking�cough,�very thirsty and with watery diarrhea, using Xie Bai San as the basis.�� The result:� The cough stopped today, the second day on the formula.� Again, the right fit. > � > Respectfully, > > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > � > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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