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 I liked your ideas a lot John, and followed the links to see what its

 

about. This imagery you presented is very expansive and provocative.

 

The water, in this case, interstitial fluid, aligns in the presence of

 

abundant positive qi.

 

 Is it possible there is something analogous to a sympathetic/ parasympathetic

system of qi in the bodies? In other

 

words, all life forms have qi and construct molecules around it.       

 

We're born and the body knows what to do, it's the opposite of chaos.

 

Life is working, beautiful, we grow up, and a feeling of optimism and

 

potential is there because the body is flourishing. And injury or

 

distress occurs and we're inhibited and shut down a little to cope.

 

automatically. Rub or reflect. Reach out.

 

 The immaterial gives birth to the material, and nutures it along. Acupuncture

type therapies

 

uses the immaterial to support the material. Herbals use material born in

immaterial, to support both.

 

 And water, is so fitting to be looked at because it is mostly what we are, and

water is so nuetral yet powerful.

 

 When

 

we have to focus, because of internal or external conflict, on

 

augmenting, or letting our body and mind be, just feeling, using our

 

complex to feel, to unify our strengths and weaknesses, with qigong

 

(intent), mixing in all the important lessons, letting us mix with the

 

day season  then the qi becomes mobile, accessible. Less automatic.

 

Further down the path, sayings like, 'a sneeze can bring a snowstorm',

 

apply. Because the immaterial is limitless, just like us.

 

 Like a

 

horse and rider, their strength has a direction, but on a good open

 

day, the wiser will lead. Like a harmonious relationship, society. I'm

 

a musician who's better at backing than playing front most of the time.

 

I like it.

 

 I know I overly use metaphors of lovers when describing

 

qi, or feeling a pulse, or just interracting with the world in general.

 

And I don't know if I will be moderated or spanked for some of the

 

things I say (of course we're not whores). But, we come from the

 

vastness, and  immaterial, and can sense the preciousness and direction

 

that the little horse wants to go. Thanks, this is such a good group.

 

 

 

(I have made more low threshold ion cords john, if you still want a pair, I can

get them to you in about two weeks)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Fran and all,

 

It does seem that water which was alluded to by Lao Tzu as the source of

many things (abyss) could be the carrier for the almost ineffable... Qi.

I've seen visions of six pointed stars (stars of David... as above so below)

coursing through our bodies...these being the internal matrix of

mind-matter. This sacred geometry is a matter of fact... this blue planet

of water is an ocean of pearls reflecting each other... as six pointed water

crystals refract through each other creating a symphony of light and sound,

which we call.... life. Without it... without Qi as the counterpoint engine

inside of these prisms, there would be just darkness... the movie projecter

shut off... plato's cave without the fire.

 

When Masaru Emoto came up with the idea of photographing frozen water

crystals embedded with thought patterns and environmental influences, it all

made sense how Qi and Water could mix and not disentegrate each other...

only water could hold something so powerful, because of it's passive nature

Thinking about the trigram for water mixing with fire... two yin lines, one

yang integrating with two yang lines, one yin

San jiao (triple metabolism) holding both Yuan Qi and Water... conduit of

both kinetic and potential... source of the source

 

Interstitial fluid, lymphatic fluid, cranio-sacral fluid, oxytocin,

endorphins, ying, xue, jing....

Yes.. !

 

K

 

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:55 AM, mystir <ykcul_ritsym wrote:

 

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> liked your ideas a lot John, and followed the links to see what its

> about. This imagery you presented is very expansive and provocative.

> The water, in this case, interstitial fluid, aligns in the presence of

> abundant positive qi.

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