R: Estrogenic effects of herbs

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Yes: indeed it is not yet enough known pharmacokinetics of these drugs

(herbs), but maybe something is moving, in research, about red clover an

soy; maybe that they could be effective as tamoxifene, in treating oestrogn

receptors, both alpha and beta. At the present time there's no enough

evidence in this, but prevention. Qing hao, Artemisia annua, safe in use

(while the patient is not in any kind of treatment as chemio- or radio-) and

without great side effects (cold/fresh drug, so its'not harmless in a Pi Xu)

cheap, and very effective. Decoction must not be over one minute (of course

in boiling; heat destroy artemisinin). The dosage could be from 5 to 10

grams per day. Add mg. 500 of C Vitamin, in the morning, up to prevent

anemia due to iron deficiency.

 

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Da: Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine Per conto di

margi.macdonald

Inviato: sabato 21 febbraio 2009 8.38

A: Chinese Medicine

Oggetto: Re: Estrogenic effects of herbs

 

 

 

Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>

Chinese_Medicine , " Ally Knox "

<equiknox wrote:

>

" ...estrogen receptor positive breast cancer, stage one,

> grade one at the age of 49. It had not spread to the lymph nodes.

> She was given a mastectomy, chemotherapy (cytoxin-methyltrexate-

> fluorouracil), and radiation. There is no family history of cancer.

>

> Can anyone provide some perspective/guidance on the safety of herbal

> formulas for a person with this sort of health history? "

>

> many thanks

>

> Alex Knox

 

Hi Alex

is this lady now on any medical drugs which 'block' oestrogen?

If she is, this will give you an idea of how judicious you need to be.

 

As I understand it, Licorice root, Angelica, and Soy isolates, are the

biggest concerns, due to their suspected, or poorly understood

oestrogenic activity.

Others would add fennel and aniseed to the list.

Black Cohosh remains controversial, as does Milk Thistle.

 

Some useful links:

The Mayo Clinic; for info on drugs and supplements

http://www.mayoclin

<http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dong-quai/NS_patient-Dongquai>

ic.com/health/dong-quai/NS_patient-Dongquai

 

Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Centre

http://www.mskcc. <http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/11570.cfm>

org/mskcc/html/11570.cfm

This herbs data base is maintained by a pharmacist who is also a TCM

herbalist and acupuncturist.

 

Oncology is my main area of interest... there are plenty of non-herb

things your patient can do, which will achieve good therapeutic

outcomes and enhance quality of life, without the possibility of even

the tiniest inherent risk posed by some herbs.

 

Guided imagery, mindfulness-based meditation, gentle/moderate

exercise, yoga, tai chi, a 'good' diet, a warm and supportive network

of friends and family, a counselor if necessary and a great

acupuncturist - all contribute to long term health and well-being; and

there is an emerging body of evidence for the efficacy of these

approaches.

 

Margi

 

 

 

 

 

 

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