Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 --- Help please. I am seeing a 87 yr old man unable to urinate without catherizing himself after a prostatectomy 6 years ago for ca. He was voiding on his own until 2 years ago when his dr began uretral dilaltions to help him urinate and he became progressively worse. His wife makes him sleep alone due to severe restless legs. Tonight I needled him for the third time and his legs were twitching pretty badly but his lower abdomen twitched so hard the needle with the moxa actually popped right out. I started him on Ba Zheng Wan last week. I don't know what to make of it. Should I stop the herb? thanks, Rissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Hi Rissa. Sometimes instead of needles connected to an electroacupuncture device, I attach tens pads with the gel. Consider, maybe, two pads for stim, one output at 2-5 hz. At points halfway between the inguinal crease and the midline, and halfway between the pubis bone and umbilicus. Raise the stim slowly until there is a slight muscular contraction. Then stop. Re-increase the intensity after the contractions fade after 5 or so min. Just thoughts. If this is too intense, just raise the intensity to comfort level of patient. This may help the deep abdominal muscles and channels, train them, and disperse hyperactivity. What do you think? --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Rissa Guest <rissaguest wrote: Rissa Guest <rissaguest Re: Re: Restless legs during treatment Chinese Medicine Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 8:33 PM --- Help please. I am seeing a 87 yr old man unable to urinate without catherizing himself after a prostatectomy 6 years ago for ca. He was voiding on his own until 2 years ago when his dr began uretral dilaltions to help him urinate and he became progressively worse. His wife makes him sleep alone due to severe restless legs. Tonight I needled him for the third time and his legs were twitching pretty badly but his lower abdomen twitched so hard the needle with the moxa actually popped right out. I started him on Ba Zheng Wan last week. I don't know what to make of it. Should I stop the herb? thanks, Rissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 I heard from my teacher, Peter van Kervel, that Restless leg syndrome is a lack of Yang Chi, so lack of downwards movement of the Yang (Sp-6) ---------- Dr. Yerachmiel Kramer 972-546-84-7351 kramer _________ _____ Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Rissa Guest Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:34 AM Chinese Medicine Re: Re: Restless legs during treatment Help please. I am seeing a 87 yr old man unable to urinate without catherizing himself after a prostatectomy 6 years ago for ca. He was voiding on his own until 2 years ago when his dr began uretral dilaltions to help him urinate and he became progressively worse. His wife makes him sleep alone due to severe restless legs. Tonight I needled him for the third time and his legs were twitching pretty badly but his lower abdomen twitched so hard the needle with the moxa actually popped right out. I started him on Ba Zheng Wan last week. I don't know what to make of it. Should I stop the herb? thanks, Rissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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