Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Learning and mastering any subject, whether it is self-defense, medicine or art, can be broken into a series of stages. The first stage is called " wang-o " or forgetting the self. The novice concentrates on simple techniques and learns the mechanical aspects through repetition. For example, in self-defense, the student might first learn a single punch. The budding artist first learns to hold the brush and draw a straight line. The apprentice physician might learn to tell if the pulse is Yin or Yang. Later the movemnets are combined and refined until they become like a dance. However, you are still aware of yourself and must concentrate to perform the techniques. Eventually, you don't have to concentrate and can perform the movements automatically. The next step is called " tse-jan " . At this stage the movements are very natural and you develop your own style. The third stage is called " wu-wei " . You are beyond technique and live in the " now " . You react spontaneously and naturally to what is happening at the moment. Without any thought, a picture pop's into the artist's mind and he draws the masterpiece without thinking. The martial artist counters a surprise attack without thinking. The physician instantly knows what is wrong with the patient with no apparent examination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Marty, Wang Wo, Zi Ran, and Wu Wei are all Daoist terms. They do not have a level - but reflect a state of mind of forgetting self, naturalness and non contention. A good doctor, as well as martial artist , will have these qualities. They are not in the artificial constructs you state. I would suggest reading the Nan Jing 61 and Ling Shu 4 to determine your level of physician... On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:02 AM, <martyeisen wrote: > > > > Learning and mastering any subject, whether it is self-defense, medicine or > art, can be broken into a series of stages. > > The first stage is called " wang-o " or forgetting the self. The novice > concentrates on simple techniques and learns the mechanical aspects through > repetition. For example, in self-defense, the student might first learn a > single punch. The budding artist first learns to hold the brush and draw a > straight line. The apprentice physician might learn to tell if the pulse is > Yin or Yang. Later the movemnets are combined and refined until they become > like a dance. However, you are still aware of yourself and must concentrate > to perform the techniques. Eventually, you don't have to concentrate and can > perform the movements automatically. > > The next step is called " tse-jan " . At this stage the movements are very > natural and you develop your own style. > > The third stage is called " wu-wei " . You are beyond technique and live in > the " now " . You react spontaneously and naturally to what is happening at the > moment. Without any thought, a picture pop's into the artist's mind and he > draws the masterpiece without thinking. The martial artist counters a > surprise attack without thinking. The physician instantly knows what is > wrong with the patient with no apparent examination. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 These are not just characteristics of advancement in chinese medicine or in martial arts - they characterise advancement in musicianship, painting, photography - really any discipline. > Marty, > > Wang Wo, Zi Ran, and Wu Wei are all Daoist terms. They do not have a level > - but reflect a state of mind of forgetting self, naturalness and non > contention. A good doctor, as well as martial artist , will have these > qualities. They are not in the artificial constructs you state. > > I would suggest reading the Nan Jing 61 and Ling Shu 4 to determine your > level of physician... > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:02 AM, <martyeisen wrote: > > > > > > > > > Learning and mastering any subject, whether it is self-defense, medicine or > > art, can be broken into a series of stages. > > > > The first stage is called " wang-o " or forgetting the self. The novice > > concentrates on simple techniques and learns the mechanical aspects through > > repetition. For example, in self-defense, the student might first learn a > > single punch. The budding artist first learns to hold the brush and draw a > > straight line. The apprentice physician might learn to tell if the pulse is > > Yin or Yang. Later the movemnets are combined and refined until they become > > like a dance. However, you are still aware of yourself and must concentrate > > to perform the techniques. Eventually, you don't have to concentrate and can > > perform the movements automatically. > > > > The next step is called " tse-jan " . At this stage the movements are very > > natural and you develop your own style. > > > > The third stage is called " wu-wei " . You are beyond technique and live in > > the " now " . You react spontaneously and naturally to what is happening at the > > moment. Without any thought, a picture pop's into the artist's mind and he > > draws the masterpiece without thinking. The martial artist counters a > > surprise attack without thinking. The physician instantly knows what is > > wrong with the patient with no apparent examination. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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