Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Donald I had computer problem cutting parts of my sentences. So here it is again If you cant show that therapists you choose and believe to be good can get better outcomes than sham needling on randomized patients evaluated by a third party, that does not know which patient comes from which group, we have a problem. Regardless of ideas from tong/tung-style or any other explanation of such phenomenon. This type of study design is easy to do and there is no excuse not to do it. Regarding diagnosis, we need studies on simple symptoms first. Chronic mechanical back pain for example. Back pain is a CM disease and WM condition. alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Because none of us as practitioners have experienced these kind of results questions the truth and validity of the studies. Try it in your own clinic next time someone has LBP and see if the " sham " gives you a short or long term response. It won't. Therefore, this is an anomoly that cannot be repeated in practice. If it cannot be repeated in our own clinics, what does it say about the RCT design or the integrity of the practitioners. Scientific methodology hinges on repeatability. In this group, for the most part, we are experienced practitioners and we are seeing something not seen in clinic. That means something is terribly wrong. Just a thought. Dr. Donald J. Snow, Jr., DAOM, MPH, L.Ac. Chinese Medicine alonmarcus Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:57:58 +0000 computer proboem Donald I had computer problem cutting parts of my sentences. So here it is again If you cant show that therapists you choose and believe to be good can get better outcomes than sham needling on randomized patients evaluated by a third party, that does not know which patient comes from which group, we have a problem. Regardless of ideas from tong/tung-style or any other explanation of such phenomenon. This type of study design is easy to do and there is no excuse not to do it. Regarding diagnosis, we need studies on simple symptoms first. Chronic mechanical back pain for example. Back pain is a CM disease and WM condition. alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Alon, Please disregard previous comment... Regards, Tymothy > > Donald > I had computer problem cutting parts of my sentences. So here it is again > If you cant show that therapists you choose and believe to be good can get better outcomes than sham needling on randomized patients evaluated by a third party, that does not know which patient comes from which group, we have a problem. Regardless of ideas from tong/tung-style or any other explanation of such phenomenon. This type of study design is easy to do and there is no excuse not to do it. Regarding diagnosis, we need studies on simple symptoms first. Chronic mechanical back pain for example. Back pain is a CM disease and WM condition. > > alon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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