Diabetic Patient and Gan Mai Da Zao Tang

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I have a female patient who has been taking Gan Mai Da Zao Tang for the last

2 wks. She has Type II diabetes(taking Metformin to control), and since about 2

days ago her blood sugar has been high, on awakening. It gets lower after she

eats, and 3 hrs after taking the Rx. I told her to discontinue the herbs for

now, and keep monitoring her blood sugar until I get back to her.

Does anyone know the carb unit for one serving of raw, decocted GMDZT? This

patient usually has 2 units of carbs/meal(ie 30 gm carbs), and for a snack will

allow herself 1 unit(ie 15 gm carbs).

I will probably choose to just switch RX's, or frequency. But was wanting to

know if anyone had any diabetic nutritional values for this Rx?

 

Much thanks,

Emily Davidson, L.Ac

[Guest guest]

 Hi Emily;

 

 If your patient is having irregular blood sugar values after starting GMDZ then

you are prescribing the wrong formula. When the internal disharmony is balanced,

blood sugar always benefits. That said, if this is the wrong formula (that is,

it is not treating the foundational root) it is also quite sweet.

 

 An easy place to start is with the following seven patterns, and see which

one(s) she most closely falls into:

 Stomach heat exuberance

 Liver depression, qi stagnation

 Yin vacuity, fire effulgence

 Qi and Yin dual vacuity

 Yin and Yang dual vacuity

 Blood stasis

 Water dampness accumulating internally and congealing into phlegm

 

 I generally use the san jiao theory to assess diabetes cases, however.

 

 

 Hope this helps,

 

 Hugo

 

 

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Emily <gracefairy5

Chinese Medicine

Friday, 10 July, 2009 10:17:30

Diabetic Patient and Gan Mai Da Zao Tang

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi all,

I have a female patient who has been taking Gan Mai Da Zao Tang for the last

2 wks. She has Type II diabetes(taking Metformin to control), and since about 2

days ago her blood sugar has been high, on awakening. It gets lower after she

eats, and 3 hrs after taking the Rx. I told her to discontinue the herbs for

now, and keep monitoring her blood sugar until I get back to her.

Does anyone know the carb unit for one serving of raw, decocted GMDZT? This

patient usually has 2 units of carbs/meal(ie 30 gm carbs), and for a snack will

allow herself 1 unit(ie 15 gm carbs).

I will probably choose to just switch RX's, or frequency. But was wanting to

know if anyone had any diabetic nutritional values for this Rx?

 

Much thanks,

Emily Davidson, L.Ac

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I don't have the specifics you ask for, but it is a very sweet formula.  I have

had diabetic patients who cannot tolerate gan cao.

 

Andrea Beth

 

Traditional Oriental Medicine

Happy Hours in the CALM Center

635 S. 10th St.

Cottonwood, AZ  86326

(928) 274-1373

 

 

--- On Fri, 7/10/09, Emily <gracefairy5 wrote:

 

Emily <gracefairy5

Diabetic Patient and Gan Mai Da Zao Tang

Chinese Medicine

Friday, July 10, 2009, 7:17 AM

 

 

   Hi all,

I have a female patient who has been taking Gan Mai Da Zao Tang for the last

2 wks. She has Type II diabetes(taking Metformin to control), and since about 2

days ago her blood sugar has been high, on awakening. It gets lower after she

eats, and 3 hrs after taking the Rx. I told her to discontinue the herbs for

now, and keep monitoring her blood sugar until I get back to her.

Does anyone know the carb unit for one serving of raw, decocted GMDZT? This

patient usually has 2 units of carbs/meal(ie 30 gm carbs), and for a snack will

allow herself 1 unit(ie 15 gm carbs).

I will probably choose to just switch RX's, or frequency. But was wanting to

know if anyone had any diabetic nutritional values for this Rx?

 

Much thanks,

Emily Davidson, L.Ac

 

 

 

 

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