Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 I'm sure this has been talked about before, but does anyone know if we have any clues whether acupuncture will be included in the new health plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dr. Snow Not to forget .......the MDs will certainly get reimbursed. Richard In a message dated 07/17/09 10:09:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, don83407 writes: Of course it won't. And if it is, only MD's will be allowed to do it. Dr. Snow **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships\ /?ncid=emlweu slove00000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Approximately five years ago I stuck my neck out and SUED the ten largest healthcare reimbursement carriers for their discriminatory RICO practices. _http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=28468_ (http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=28468) Every AP licensee in the US receives " Acupuncture Today " either directly or indirectly..... yet less than a handful (3 or 4) out of a reported 20,000 US licensees joined in. More importantly, (other than AOMNCC), not one US national or local/state AOM organization joined in....... even just showing their support. For the past 12+ years Congressman Maurice Hinchey, NY has sponsored a Federal Acupuncture Bill. In 1998 I went to Washington, DC to see him and his staff as was told that not one national or local/state AOM organization was supportive of the Bill. Today - finally - AAAOM and others have jumped on the bandwagon. Some would say " better late than never " .....hopefully that is true. And we now want to know IF acupuncture will be included in Obama's Health Plan? Richard (http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=28468) In a message dated 07/16/09 11:54:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, heylaurag writes: I'm sure this has been talked about before, but does anyone know if we have any clues whether acupuncture will be included in the new health plan? **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships\ /?ncid=emlweu slove00000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 AOM as administered by qualified LAc's nationwide..... needs to be immediately added to HR676. The AOM strategy should be to move both bills (HR646 and HR676) to passage. So far what is apparent is...........that is not the case. A very weak strategy. Richard In a message dated 07/17/09 12:01:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, johnkokko writes: If the Acupuncture Coverage Act (HR 646) passes, Acupuncture will also be covered in the new Universal Health Plan (HR 676). Mayway will double your contribution to the cause. AAAOM has published their support. We need to act fast or else we'll be left out of HR 676. I've read the bill. Chiropractic is included, but no Acupuncture services. Pass HR 646! K **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships\ /?ncid=emlweu slove00000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 A great effort to be applauded......but while flooding the lines to pass HR646 it would be appropriate to get legislators to immediately add AOM and LAc's to HR676! Save time and effort by doing both. Richard In a message dated 07/17/09 11:34:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nrgcreator writes: I hope you all know about and are doing evrything to support HR 646 - the fedreal acupuncture coverage act. We have already flooded the phone lines on July 7th, and will do so again on the 27th of this month. J. Bedrosian **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships\ /?ncid=emlweu slove00000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 And if HR676 passes while HR646 fails (which has been the case every two years since 1998)...then what? All the publication of AAAOM and others support (myself and AOMNCC included)......and Mayway's doubling contributions to the cause will not make a " hill of beans " difference. Of course Chiros are included....they and the MDs are going to be the ones administering and getting reimbursed for the acupuncture (often hidden under other categories such as PT).....just like it is now. Only it will be worse for LAc's if we are not on HR676 along with acupuncture+. R In a message dated 07/17/09 12:01:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, johnkokko writes: If the Acupuncture Coverage Act (HR 646) passes, Acupuncture will also be covered in the new Universal Health Plan (HR 676). Mayway will double your contribution to the cause. AAAOM has published their support. We need to act fast or else we'll be left out of HR 676. I've read the bill. Chiropractic is included, but no Acupuncture services. Pass HR 646! K **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships\ /?ncid=emlweu slove00000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 J. Now your talking. You are right.....that IS my style. PRO action speaks quite loudly. I may be rough around the edges sometimes because I have become accustomed to carrying the proverbial " big stick " . But annoying " big sticks " do work. In the end if we get where we need to be - its all worth it. I don't have the funds either..... but I have made by single voice heard for whatever that has been worth. It goes to show that IF a many more of us become the squeaky-wheel we just might get it oiled. Richard In a message dated 07/17/09 12:52:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nrgcreator writes: Richard, I like your style. While us here at Golden Needle do not have the funds to match contributions, we do have a voice and like to use it! I will take your wisdom and do what we can (if you dont mind) to at least get the word out and rally practitioners and patients to demand this happen. thanks again! J. Bedrosian **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships\ /?ncid=emlweu slove00000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Of course it won't. And if it is, only MD's will be allowed to do it. Dr. Snow Chinese Medicine heylaurag Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:53:37 +0000 Obama's health plan I'm sure this has been talked about before, but does anyone know if we have any clues whether acupuncture will be included in the new health plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 I hope you all know about and are doing evrything to support HR 646 - the fedreal acupuncture coverage act. We have already flooded the phone lines on July 7th, and will do so again on the 27th of this month. J. Bedrosian live long & love strong ________________________________ Donald Snow <don83407 Chinese Traditional Medicine Friday, July 17, 2009 10:09:04 AM RE: Obama's health plan Of course it won't. And if it is, only MD's will be allowed to do it. Dr. Snow heylaurag (AT) hotmail (DOT) com Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:53:37 +0000 Obama's health plan I'm sure this has been talked about before, but does anyone know if we have any clues whether acupuncture will be included in the new health plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 If the Acupuncture Coverage Act (HR 646) passes, Acupuncture will also be covered in the new Universal Health Plan (HR 676). Mayway will double your contribution to the cause. AAAOM has published their support. We need to act fast or else we'll be left out of HR 676. I've read the bill. Chiropractic is included, but no Acupuncture services. Pass HR 646! K On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:34 AM, <acudoc11 wrote: > > > Approximately five years ago I stuck my neck out and SUED the ten largest > healthcare reimbursement carriers for their discriminatory RICO practices. > _http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=28468_ > (http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=28468) > > Every AP licensee in the US receives " Acupuncture Today " either directly > or indirectly..... yet less than a handful (3 or 4) out of a reported > 20,000 > US licensees joined in. > > More importantly, (other than AOMNCC), not one US national or local/state > AOM organization joined in....... even just showing their support. > > For the past 12+ years Congressman Maurice Hinchey, NY has sponsored a > Federal Acupuncture Bill. > In 1998 I went to Washington, DC to see him and his staff as was told that > not one national or local/state AOM organization was supportive of the > Bill. Today - finally - AAAOM and others have jumped on the bandwagon. Some > > would say " better late than never " .....hopefully that is true. > > And we now want to know IF acupuncture will be included in Obama's Health > Plan? > > Richard > > (http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=28468) > > > In a message dated 07/16/09 11:54:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > heylaurag <heylaurag%40hotmail.com> writes: > > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but does anyone know if we > have any clues whether acupuncture will be included in the new health plan? > > > **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. > ( > http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/\ ?ncid=emlweu > slove00000001) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 I hope everyone is asking their patients to support these bills as well and providing them with the appropriate information of who to call. J. Bedrosian live long & love strong ________________________________ <johnkokko Chinese Medicine Friday, July 17, 2009 11:59:45 AM Re: Obama's health plan If the Acupuncture Coverage Act (HR 646) passes, Acupuncture will also be covered in the new Universal Health Plan (HR 676). Mayway will double your contribution to the cause. AAAOM has published their support. We need to act fast or else we'll be left out of HR 676. I've read the bill. Chiropractic is included, but no Acupuncture services. Pass HR 646! K On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:34 AM, <acudoc11 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote: > > > Approximately five years ago I stuck my neck out and SUED the ten largest > healthcare reimbursement carriers for their discriminatory RICO practices. > _http://www.acupunct uretoday. com/mpacms/ at/article. php?id=28468_ > (http://www.acupunct uretoday. com/mpacms/ at/article. php?id=28468) > > Every AP licensee in the US receives " Acupuncture Today " either directly > or indirectly.. ... yet less than a handful (3 or 4) out of a reported > 20,000 > US licensees joined in. > > More importantly, (other than AOMNCC), not one US national or local/state > AOM organization joined in....... even just showing their support. > > For the past 12+ years Congressman Maurice Hinchey, NY has sponsored a > Federal Acupuncture Bill. > In 1998 I went to Washington, DC to see him and his staff as was told that > not one national or local/state AOM organization was supportive of the > Bill. Today - finally - AAAOM and others have jumped on the bandwagon. Some > > would say " better late than never " .....hopefull y that is true. > > And we now want to know IF acupuncture will be included in Obama's Health > Plan? > > Richard > > (http://www.acupunct uretoday. com/mpacms/ at/article. php?id=28468) > > > In a message dated 07/16/09 11:54:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > heylaurag (AT) hotmail (DOT) com <heylaurag%40hotmai l.com> writes: > > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but does anyone know if we > have any clues whether acupuncture will be included in the new health plan? > > > ************ **Can love help you live longer? Find out now. > ( > http://personals. aol.com/articles /2009/02/ 18/longer- lives-through- relationships/ ?ncid=emlweu > slove00000001) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Richard, I like your style. While us here at Golden Needle do not have the funds to match contributions, we do have a voice and like to use it! I will take your wisdom and do what we can (if you dont mind) to at least get the word out and rally practitioners and patients to demand this happen. thanks again! J. Bedrosian live long & love strong ________________________________ " acudoc11 " <acudoc11 Chinese Medicine Friday, July 17, 2009 12:26:05 PM Re: Obama's health plan A great effort to be applauded... ...but while flooding the lines to pass HR646 it would be appropriate to get legislators to immediately add AOM and LAc's to HR676! Save time and effort by doing both. Richard In a message dated 07/17/09 11:34:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nrgcreator writes: I hope you all know about and are doing evrything to support HR 646 - the fedreal acupuncture coverage act. We have already flooded the phone lines on July 7th, and will do so again on the 27th of this month. J. Bedrosian ************ **Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals. aol.com/articles /2009/02/ 18/longer- lives-through- relationships/ ?ncid=emlweu slove00000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Under the Obama plan the Government controls health care. Sooner or later it will be rationed. Then the lobbyist with the most money wins. That ain't us. Bart Paulding, LAc Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Joey Bedrosian Friday, July 17, 2009 8:13 AM Chinese Medicine Re: Obama's health plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Chinese Medicine , acudoc11 I'm shocked to hear that we are not being included in the new health plan at this point. I've contributed money to that cause! Can someone please give more information about who to call on July 27th? I will give out the number to all my patients if I know what to tell them. It seems to me that this could pretty much destroy our profession. Does anyone know how likely its looking that HR 646 will pass? When will we know? wrote: > > J. > > Now your talking. > You are right.....that IS my style. > PRO action speaks quite loudly. > I may be rough around the edges sometimes because I have become accustomed > to carrying the proverbial " big stick " . But annoying " big sticks " do work. > In the end if we get where we need to be - its all worth it. > > I don't have the funds either..... but I have made by single voice heard > for whatever that has been worth. > > It goes to show that IF a many more of us become the squeaky-wheel we just > might get it oiled. > > Richard > > > > In a message dated 07/17/09 12:52:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > nrgcreator writes: > > Richard, I like your style. While us here at Golden Needle do not have the > funds to match contributions, we do have a voice and like to use it! I > will take your wisdom and do what we can (if you dont mind) to at least get > the word out and rally practitioners and patients to demand this happen. > > thanks again! > J. Bedrosian > > **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. > (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships\ /?ncid=emlweu > slove00000001) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 I'm curious. Where do you donate money for this ??.....God Bless.............Betty Chinese Medicine , " heylaurag " <heylaurag wrote: > > Chinese Medicine , acudoc11@ > > > I'm shocked to hear that we are not being included in the new health plan at this point. I've contributed money to that cause! Can someone please give more information about who to call on July 27th? I will give out the number to all my patients if I know what to tell them. It seems to me that this could pretty much destroy our profession. Does anyone know how likely its looking that HR 646 will pass? When will we know? wrote: > > > > J. > > > > Now your talking. > > You are right.....that IS my style. > > PRO action speaks quite loudly. > > I may be rough around the edges sometimes because I have become accustomed > > to carrying the proverbial " big stick " . But annoying " big sticks " do work. > > In the end if we get where we need to be - its all worth it. > > > > I don't have the funds either..... but I have made by single voice heard > > for whatever that has been worth. > > > > It goes to show that IF a many more of us become the squeaky-wheel we just > > might get it oiled. > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > In a message dated 07/17/09 12:52:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > nrgcreator@ writes: > > > > Richard, I like your style. While us here at Golden Needle do not have the > > funds to match contributions, we do have a voice and like to use it! I > > will take your wisdom and do what we can (if you dont mind) to at least get > > the word out and rally practitioners and patients to demand this happen. > > > > thanks again! > > J. Bedrosian > > > > **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. > > (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships\ /?ncid=emlweu > > slove00000001) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 I sent this link to my patients--there is an area on the side that says, " comment on this bill " and I asked my patients to send comments. I just sent the email about an hour ago and quite a few have already written. SEND THIS LINK TO ALL YOUR PATIENTS! Make it easy for them and tell them to click on the right where it says, " comment on this bill " . Tell them you don't have to sign up for anything and you can use a fake name if you want to. http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_646.html Chinese Medicine , " chihealing " <medicwoman wrote: > > I'm curious. Where do you donate money for this ??.....God Bless.............Betty > > Chinese Medicine , " heylaurag " <heylaurag@> wrote: > > > > Chinese Medicine , acudoc11@ > > > > > > I'm shocked to hear that we are not being included in the new health plan at this point. I've contributed money to that cause! Can someone please give more information about who to call on July 27th? I will give out the number to all my patients if I know what to tell them. It seems to me that this could pretty much destroy our profession. Does anyone know how likely its looking that HR 646 will pass? When will we know? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > J. > > > > > > Now your talking. > > > You are right.....that IS my style. > > > PRO action speaks quite loudly. > > > I may be rough around the edges sometimes because I have become accustomed > > > to carrying the proverbial " big stick " . But annoying " big sticks " do work. > > > In the end if we get where we need to be - its all worth it. > > > > > > I don't have the funds either..... but I have made by single voice heard > > > for whatever that has been worth. > > > > > > It goes to show that IF a many more of us become the squeaky-wheel we just > > > might get it oiled. > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 07/17/09 12:52:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > nrgcreator@ writes: > > > > > > Richard, I like your style. While us here at Golden Needle do not have the > > > funds to match contributions, we do have a voice and like to use it! I > > > will take your wisdom and do what we can (if you dont mind) to at least get > > > the word out and rally practitioners and patients to demand this happen. > > > > > > thanks again! > > > J. Bedrosian > > > > > > **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. > > > (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships\ /?ncid=emlweu > > > slove00000001) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 This bill looks like it amends the current Medicare Part B. How does it have anything to do with " Obama Care " ?? Will TCM be includedin that?? Thanks & God Bless..............Betty PS. Does that mean herbal medicine will be covered as well if provided by an acupuncturist ?? --- On Fri, 7/17/09, heylaurag <heylaurag wrote: heylaurag <heylaurag Re: Obama's health plan Chinese Medicine Friday, July 17, 2009, 9:23 PM I sent this link to my patients--there is an area on the side that says, " comment on this bill " and I asked my patients to send comments. I just sent the email about an hour ago and quite a few have already written. SEND THIS LINK TO ALL YOUR PATIENTS! Make it easy for them and tell them to click on the right where it says, " comment on this bill " . Tell them you don't have to sign up for anything and you can use a fake name if you want to. http://www.washingt onwatch.com/ bills/show/ 111_HR_646. html Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , " chihealing " <medicwoman@ ...> wrote: > > I'm curious. Where do you donate money for this ??.....God Bless....... .......Betty > > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , " heylaurag " <heylaurag@> wrote: > > > > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , acudoc11@ > > > > > > I'm shocked to hear that we are not being included in the new health plan at this point. I've contributed money to that cause! Can someone please give more information about who to call on July 27th? I will give out the number to all my patients if I know what to tell them. It seems to me that this could pretty much destroy our profession. Does anyone know how likely its looking that HR 646 will pass? When will we know? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > J. > > > > > > Now your talking. > > > You are right.....that IS my style. > > > PRO action speaks quite loudly. > > > I may be rough around the edges sometimes because I have become accustomed > > > to carrying the proverbial " big stick " . But annoying " big sticks " do work. > > > In the end if we get where we need to be - its all worth it. > > > > > > I don't have the funds either..... but I have made by single voice heard > > > for whatever that has been worth. > > > > > > It goes to show that IF a many more of us become the squeaky-wheel we just > > > might get it oiled. > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 07/17/09 12:52:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > nrgcreator@ writes: > > > > > > Richard, I like your style. While us here at Golden Needle do not have the > > > funds to match contributions, we do have a voice and like to use it! I > > > will take your wisdom and do what we can (if you dont mind) to at least get > > > the word out and rally practitioners and patients to demand this happen. > > > > > > thanks again! > > > J. Bedrosian > > > > > > ************ **Can love help you live longer? Find out now. > > > (http://personals. aol.com/articles /2009/02/ 18/longer- lives-through- relationships/ ?ncid=emlweu > > > slove00000001) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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