Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Richard, Could you elaborate more about yin-style and yang-style tx? Thanks, Yang-chu Higgins, LAc Los Angeles, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yang-chu Relatively .....the use of acupuncture needles and electro-acupuncture are yang when compared to Ba Guan (cupping) and Gua Sha (frictional). If there is yin stagnation which needs moving....... why use yang tools to attempt to move the yin stagnation when you can move the yin stagnation directly, quickly and more effectively with yin tools? Richard In a message dated 07/20/09 10:32:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ycmgh writes: Richard, Could you elaborate more about yin-style and yang-style tx? Thanks, Yang-chu Higgins, LAc Los Angeles, CA **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Hi all and Richard: --Richard- If there is yin stagnation which needs moving...... . why use yang tools to attempt to move the yin stagnation when you can move the yin stagnation directly, quickly and more effectively with yin tools? --- I agree. I think of it as, if we have a swamp to drain, why try to burn it out, if we can wash it out instead with powerful clean surges of tidal flow. Dredge it at the same time too. Hugo ________________________________ Hugo Ramiro http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Hugo Another analogy...... needing to move a heavy object by blowing on it with your breath,,,,,, versus using the leverage of a heavier object/force..... like giving it a swift kick. Richard In a message dated 7/21/2009 2:14:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, subincor writes: I agree. I think of it as, if we have a swamp to drain, why try to burn it out, if we can wash it out instead with powerful clean surges of tidal flow. Dredge it at the same time too. Hugo **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Dan, I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I practice, the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method taught by Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has been coming to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I don't know what the status is next year, but contact the school for more information. Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the results vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method very rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, especially for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use herbs due to licensing restrictions in Japan. When patients ask, I tell them I will insert when I think it is more beneficial, but I probably only insert about 2% of the time any more. Sincerely, David Toone, L.Ac. 105 Tivoli Gardens Peachtree City, GA 30269 www.davidtoone.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Hi David, > > I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I practice, > the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method taught by > Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has been coming > to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I don't know > what the status is next year, but contact the school for more > information. I read about the Dr. Bear method in NAJOM - Very interesting reading :0) > Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the results > vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method very > rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, especially > for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use herbs due > to licensing restrictions in Japan. I have the exact same experience. I also use Teishin roughly 98~99% of the time using " non-contact " needling. I find it to be quite effective for excess conditions as well... all Shi/Xie Qi/Ja Ki is rooted in Qi Xu/Ki Kyo anyways... Could you, please, write more about your style of practice? I am always VERY interested in hearing more about the use of Teishin.... :0) Thomas > > -- Althea Akupunktur Albanigade 23A, kld. 5000 Odense C Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk RAB: 2006059 CVR: 27322646 Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse Reg.: 9133 Konto: 2050409 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 David: Is there a link in English. My Japanese is rusty. I am interested too. Anne Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. www.LaPlataAcupuncture.com - " Thomas Sørensen " <> " Traditional " <Chinese Medicine > Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:20:20 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Re:  needleless treatments  Hi David, > > I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I practice, > the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method taught by > Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has been coming > to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I don't know > what the status is next year, but contact the school for more > information. I read about the Dr. Bear method in NAJOM - Very interesting reading :0) > Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the results > vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method very > rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, especially > for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use herbs due > to licensing restrictions in Japan. I have the exact same experience. I also use Teishin roughly 98~99% of the time using " non-contact " needling. I find it to be quite effective for excess conditions as well... all Shi/Xie Qi/Ja Ki is rooted in Qi Xu/Ki Kyo anyways... Could you, please, write more about your style of practice? I am always VERY interested in hearing more about the use of Teishin.... :0) Thomas > > -- Althea Akupunktur Albanigade 23A, kld. 5000 Odense C Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk RAB: 2006059 CVR: 27322646 Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse Reg.: 9133 Konto: 2050409 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Any suggestions on teishin suppliers? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:20:20 +0200 Re: needleless treatments Hi David, > > I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I practice, > the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method taught by > Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has been coming > to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I don't know > what the status is next year, but contact the school for more > information. I read about the Dr. Bear method in NAJOM - Very interesting reading :0) > Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the results > vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method very > rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, especially > for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use herbs due > to licensing restrictions in Japan. I have the exact same experience. I also use Teishin roughly 98~99% of the time using " non-contact " needling. I find it to be quite effective for excess conditions as well... all Shi/Xie Qi/Ja Ki is rooted in Qi Xu/Ki Kyo anyways... Could you, please, write more about your style of practice? I am always VERY interested in hearing more about the use of Teishin.... :0) Thomas > > -- Althea Akupunktur Albanigade 23A, kld. 5000 Odense C Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk RAB: 2006059 CVR: 27322646 Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse Reg.: 9133 Konto: 2050409 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=products2 & letter=T & pg= & id=3455 http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=products2 & letter=T & pg= & id=3489 http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=products2 & letter=S & pg= & id=6783 J. Bedrosian LMBT (NC#3259) live long & love strong ________________________________ mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 Chinese Traditional Medicine Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:36:27 AM RE: needleless treatments Any suggestions on teishin suppliers? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc thomas@ditlivditpot entiale.dk Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:20:20 +0200 Re: needleless treatments Hi David, > > I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I practice, > the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method taught by > Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has been coming > to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I don't know > what the status is next year, but contact the school for more > information. I read about the Dr. Bear method in NAJOM - Very interesting reading :0) > Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the results > vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method very > rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, especially > for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use herbs due > to licensing restrictions in Japan. I have the exact same experience. I also use Teishin roughly 98~99% of the time using " non-contact " needling. I find it to be quite effective for excess conditions as well... all Shi/Xie Qi/Ja Ki is rooted in Qi Xu/Ki Kyo anyways... Could you, please, write more about your style of practice? I am always VERY interested in hearing more about the use of Teishin.... :0) Thomas > > -- Althea Akupunktur Albanigade 23A, kld. 5000 Odense C Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 http://www.ditlivdi tpotentiale. dk RAB: 2006059 CVR: 27322646 Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse Reg.: 9133 Konto: 2050409 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Michael, I have seen a lot of people attempt to make Teishin. Chuck Hunner in Ashville, NC is the only person in the US I have seen make really good needles. More info here: http://www.goldenspirit.com/JapaneseMeridiantherapy/Meridiantherapytools.htm Dr. Bear method uses a gold and silver teishin, sometimes alone and sometimes in concert. But as Dr. Bear likes to remind people, it is not about the needle. David David Toone L,Ac. 105 Tivoli Gardens Peachtree City, GA www.davidtoone.com 770.783.1663 On Jul 22, 2009, at 10:36 AM, mike Bowser wrote: > > Any suggestions on teishin suppliers? > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > Chinese Medicine > > Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:20:20 +0200 > Re: needleless treatments > > Hi David, > > > > > > I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I > practice, > > > the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method taught by > > > Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has been > coming > > > to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I don't > know > > > what the status is next year, but contact the school for more > > > information. > > I read about the Dr. Bear method in NAJOM - Very interesting > reading :0) > > > Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the results > > > vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method very > > > rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, especially > > > for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use herbs due > > > to licensing restrictions in Japan. > > I have the exact same experience. I also use Teishin roughly 98~99% of > > the time using " non-contact " needling. I find it to be quite effective > > for excess conditions as well... all Shi/Xie Qi/Ja Ki is rooted in Qi > > Xu/Ki Kyo anyways... > > Could you, please, write more about your style of practice? I am > always > > VERY interested in hearing more about the use of Teishin.... > > :0) > > Thomas > > > > > > > > -- > > Althea Akupunktur > > Albanigade 23A, kld. > > 5000 Odense C > > Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 > > http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk > > RAB: 2006059 > > CVR: 27322646 > > Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse > > Reg.: 9133 > > Konto: 2050409 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Thomas, This method is very closely tied to Nan Jing method. The method is very much based on getting feedback from the patient's body about correct point selection. The order of treatment is a follows: 1. Bleed (if necessary) areas of stagnation around the 5 transport points and other stagnation. 2) Meridian Balancing (this evolved from Toyohari, but Dr. Bear stopped his association with Toyohari about 15 years ago). Rather than using the mother/son relationship, Dr. Bear finds that the Nan Jing Husband/Wife relationship is most clinically effective. 3) Fundamental Treatment: A set series of points to correct any practitioner deficiencies in the meridian balancing and to build up the patient's Yuan Qi. Specific point location and needling technique used is based on the feedback from the patient's body. 4) Needling the problem area. Local treatment for any pain or muscular/skeletal problems or points for internal problems. 5) Additional meridian balancing techniques to control pain. 6) San Shin needling (reducing, even or tonification) on the surface of the body. 7) Moxa, either direct or Ginger moxa. I agree that the method works very well also for excess pattern -- I still almost always use this method for both excess and deficiency. Dave David Toone, L.Ac. Health without Drugs or Surgery 105 Tivoli Gardens Peachtree City, GA 30269 770.780.9608 info www.davidtoone.com Chinese Medicine , Thomas Sørensen <> wrote: > > Hi David, > > > > > > I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I practice, > > the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method taught by > > Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has been coming > > to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I don't know > > what the status is next year, but contact the school for more > > information. > > > I read about the Dr. Bear method in NAJOM - Very interesting reading :0) > > > > > Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the results > > vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method very > > rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, especially > > for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use herbs due > > to licensing restrictions in Japan. > > > I have the exact same experience. I also use Teishin roughly 98~99% of > the time using " non-contact " needling. I find it to be quite effective > for excess conditions as well... all Shi/Xie Qi/Ja Ki is rooted in Qi > Xu/Ki Kyo anyways... > > Could you, please, write more about your style of practice? I am always > VERY interested in hearing more about the use of Teishin.... > > :0) > > Thomas > > > > > > -- > Althea Akupunktur > Albanigade 23A, kld. > 5000 Odense C > > Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 > http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk > > RAB: 2006059 > CVR: 27322646 > > Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse > Reg.: 9133 > Konto: 2050409 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Anne, His website is only in Japanese. There is not a lot in English about his method, as he doesn't like to promote himself. I spent some time in his clinic last year, which very valuable in my practice. There are some DVDs to help people study his method that I produced a few years back, and I am currently editing his more recent seminars. Dave David Toone, L.Ac. Health without Drugs or Surgery 105 Tivoli Gardens Peachtree City, GA 30269 770.780.9608 info www.davidtoone.com On Jul 22, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Anne Crowley wrote: > > > David: > > Is there a link in English. My Japanese is rusty. I am interested > too. > > Anne > > Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. > www.LaPlataAcupuncture.com > > - > " Thomas Sørensen " <> > " Traditional " <Chinese Medicine > > > Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:20:20 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Re: needleless treatments > > > > Hi David, > > > > > I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I > practice, > > the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method taught by > > Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has been > coming > > to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I don't > know > > what the status is next year, but contact the school for more > > information. > > I read about the Dr. Bear method in NAJOM - Very interesting > reading :0) > > > Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the results > > vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method very > > rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, especially > > for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use herbs due > > to licensing restrictions in Japan. > > I have the exact same experience. I also use Teishin roughly 98~99% of > the time using " non-contact " needling. I find it to be quite effective > for excess conditions as well... all Shi/Xie Qi/Ja Ki is rooted in Qi > Xu/Ki Kyo anyways... > > Could you, please, write more about your style of practice? I am > always > VERY interested in hearing more about the use of Teishin.... > > :0) > > Thomas > > > > > > -- > Althea Akupunktur > Albanigade 23A, kld. > 5000 Odense C > > Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 > http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk > > RAB: 2006059 > CVR: 27322646 > > Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse > Reg.: 9133 > Konto: 2050409 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hi, I get my Teishin handmade from Chuck Hunner (goldenspirit.com). He makes them in gold, silver, titanium and other metals as well. Thomas > > Any suggestions on teishin suppliers? > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > Chinese Medicine > > Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:20:20 +0200 > Re: needleless treatments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi David, > > > >> > >> I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I practice, > >> the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method taught by > >> Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has been coming > >> to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I don't know > >> what the status is next year, but contact the school for more > >> information. > > > > I read about the Dr. Bear method in NAJOM - Very interesting reading :0) > > > >> Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the results > >> vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method very > >> rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, especially > >> for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use herbs due > >> to licensing restrictions in Japan. > > > > I have the exact same experience. I also use Teishin roughly 98~99% of > > the time using " non-contact " needling. I find it to be quite effective > > for excess conditions as well... all Shi/Xie Qi/Ja Ki is rooted in Qi > > Xu/Ki Kyo anyways... > > > > Could you, please, write more about your style of practice? I am always > > VERY interested in hearing more about the use of Teishin.... > > > > :0) > > > > Thomas > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Althea Akupunktur > > Albanigade 23A, kld. > > 5000 Odense C > > > > Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 > > http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk > > > > RAB: 2006059 > > CVR: 27322646 > > > > Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse > > Reg.: 9133 > > Konto: 2050409 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hi Dave, Thank you :0) Thomas > Thomas, > > This method is very closely tied to Nan Jing method. The method is very > much based on getting feedback from the patient's body about correct point > selection. The order of treatment is a follows: > > 1. Bleed (if necessary) areas of stagnation around the 5 transport points > and other stagnation. > 2) Meridian Balancing (this evolved from Toyohari, but Dr. Bear stopped > his association with Toyohari about 15 years ago). Rather than using the > mother/son relationship, Dr. Bear finds that the Nan Jing Husband/Wife > relationship is most clinically effective. > > 3) Fundamental Treatment: A set series of points to correct any > practitioner deficiencies in the meridian balancing and to build up the > patient's Yuan Qi. Specific point location and needling technique used is > based on the feedback from the patient's body. > > 4) Needling the problem area. Local treatment for any pain or > muscular/skeletal problems or points for internal problems. > > 5) Additional meridian balancing techniques to control pain. > > 6) San Shin needling (reducing, even or tonification) on the surface of > the body. > > 7) Moxa, either direct or Ginger moxa. > > > I agree that the method works very well also for excess pattern -- I still > almost always use this method for both excess and deficiency. > > Dave > > David Toone, L.Ac. > Health without Drugs or Surgery > 105 Tivoli Gardens > Peachtree City, GA 30269 > 770.780.9608 > info > www.davidtoone.com > Chinese Medicine , Thomas Sørensen > <> wrote: >> >> Hi David, >> >> >> > >> > I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I practice, >> > the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method taught by >> > Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has been coming >> > to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I don't know >> > what the status is next year, but contact the school for more >> > information. >> >> >> I read about the Dr. Bear method in NAJOM - Very interesting reading :0) >> >> >> >> > Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the results >> > vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method very >> > rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, especially >> > for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use herbs due >> > to licensing restrictions in Japan. >> >> >> I have the exact same experience. I also use Teishin roughly 98~99% of >> the time using " non-contact " needling. I find it to be quite effective >> for excess conditions as well... all Shi/Xie Qi/Ja Ki is rooted in Qi >> Xu/Ki Kyo anyways... >> >> Could you, please, write more about your style of practice? I am always >> VERY interested in hearing more about the use of Teishin.... >> >> :0) >> >> Thomas >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Althea Akupunktur >> Albanigade 23A, kld. >> 5000 Odense C >> >> Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 >> http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk >> >> RAB: 2006059 >> CVR: 27322646 >> >> Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse >> Reg.: 9133 >> Konto: 2050409 >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Could someone please give me the instructions for Yin Care, for relieving toe fungus. The parts of solution vs. water, how often to soak.  I have been searching the archives and can't find the post. Thank you, Anne Crowley Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. www.LaPlataAcupuncture.com - " Traditional " <Chinese Medicine > Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:14:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Re:  needleless treatments  Hi Dave, Thank you :0) Thomas > Thomas, > > This method is very closely tied to Nan Jing method. The method is very > much based on getting feedback from the patient's body about correct point > selection. The order of treatment is a follows: > > 1. Bleed (if necessary) areas of stagnation around the 5 transport points > and other stagnation. > 2) Meridian Balancing (this evolved from Toyohari, but Dr. Bear stopped > his association with Toyohari about 15 years ago). Rather than using the > mother/son relationship, Dr. Bear finds that the Nan Jing Husband/Wife > relationship is most clinically effective. > > 3) Fundamental Treatment: A set series of points to correct any > practitioner deficiencies in the meridian balancing and to build up the > patient's Yuan Qi. Specific point location and needling technique used is > based on the feedback from the patient's body. > > 4) Needling the problem area. Local treatment for any pain or > muscular/skeletal problems or points for internal problems. > > 5) Additional meridian balancing techniques to control pain. > > 6) San Shin needling (reducing, even or tonification) on the surface of > the body. > > 7) Moxa, either direct or Ginger moxa. > > > I agree that the method works very well also for excess pattern -- I still > almost always use this method for both excess and deficiency. > > Dave > > David Toone, L.Ac. > Health without Drugs or Surgery > 105 Tivoli Gardens > Peachtree City, GA 30269 > 770.780.9608 > info > www.davidtoone.com > Chinese Medicine , Thomas Sørensen > <> wrote: >> >> Hi David, >> >> >> > >> > I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I practice, >> > the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method taught by >> > Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has been coming >> > to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I don't know >> > what the status is next year, but contact the school for more >> > information. >> >> >> I read about the Dr. Bear method in NAJOM - Very interesting reading :0) >> >> >> >> > Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the results >> > vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method very >> > rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, especially >> > for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use herbs due >> > to licensing restrictions in Japan. >> >> >> I have the exact same experience. I also use Teishin roughly 98~99% of >> the time using " non-contact " needling. I find it to be quite effective >> for excess conditions as well... all Shi/Xie Qi/Ja Ki is rooted in Qi >> Xu/Ki Kyo anyways... >> >> Could you, please, write more about your style of practice? I am always >> VERY interested in hearing more about the use of Teishin.... >> >> :0) >> >> Thomas >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Althea Akupunktur >> Albanigade 23A, kld. >> 5000 Odense C >> >> Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 >> http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk >> >> RAB: 2006059 >> CVR: 27322646 >> >> Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse >> Reg.: 9133 >> Konto: 2050409 >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Thomas, Likewise, I am interested in your method. Thanks David On Jul 23, 2009, at 10:14 PM, wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Thank you :0) > > Thomas > > > Thomas, > > > > This method is very closely tied to Nan Jing method. The method > is very > > much based on getting feedback from the patient's body about > correct point > > selection. The order of treatment is a follows: > > > > 1. Bleed (if necessary) areas of stagnation around the 5 > transport points > > and other stagnation. > > 2) Meridian Balancing (this evolved from Toyohari, but Dr. Bear > stopped > > his association with Toyohari about 15 years ago). Rather than > using the > > mother/son relationship, Dr. Bear finds that the Nan Jing Husband/ > Wife > > relationship is most clinically effective. > > > > 3) Fundamental Treatment: A set series of points to correct any > > practitioner deficiencies in the meridian balancing and to build > up the > > patient's Yuan Qi. Specific point location and needling technique > used is > > based on the feedback from the patient's body. > > > > 4) Needling the problem area. Local treatment for any pain or > > muscular/skeletal problems or points for internal problems. > > > > 5) Additional meridian balancing techniques to control pain. > > > > 6) San Shin needling (reducing, even or tonification) on the > surface of > > the body. > > > > 7) Moxa, either direct or Ginger moxa. > > > > > > I agree that the method works very well also for excess pattern > -- I still > > almost always use this method for both excess and deficiency. > > > > Dave > > > > David Toone, L.Ac. > > Health without Drugs or Surgery > > 105 Tivoli Gardens > > Peachtree City, GA 30269 > > 770.780.9608 > > info > > www.davidtoone.com > > Chinese Medicine , Thomas Sørensen > > <> wrote: > >> > >> Hi David, > >> > >> > >> > > >> > I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I > practice, > >> > the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method > taught by > >> > Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has > been coming > >> > to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I > don't know > >> > what the status is next year, but contact the school for more > >> > information. > >> > >> > >> I read about the Dr. Bear method in NAJOM - Very interesting > reading :0) > >> > >> > >> > >> > Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the > results > >> > vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method > very > >> > rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, > especially > >> > for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use > herbs due > >> > to licensing restrictions in Japan. > >> > >> > >> I have the exact same experience. I also use Teishin roughly > 98~99% of > >> the time using " non-contact " needling. I find it to be quite > effective > >> for excess conditions as well... all Shi/Xie Qi/Ja Ki is rooted > in Qi > >> Xu/Ki Kyo anyways... > >> > >> Could you, please, write more about your style of practice? I am > always > >> VERY interested in hearing more about the use of Teishin.... > >> > >> :0) > >> > >> Thomas > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> Althea Akupunktur > >> Albanigade 23A, kld. > >> 5000 Odense C > >> > >> Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 > >> http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk > >> > >> RAB: 2006059 > >> CVR: 27322646 > >> > >> Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse > >> Reg.: 9133 > >> Konto: 2050409 > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Tea Tree oil. Clove oil. - " Anne Crowley " <anne.crowley " Traditional " <Chinese Medicine > Friday, July 24, 2009 5:37 AM Re: needleless treatments Could someone please give me the instructions for Yin Care, for relieving toe fungus. The parts of solution vs. water, how often to soak. I have been searching the archives and can't find the post. Thank you, Anne Crowley Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. www.LaPlataAcupuncture.com - " Traditional " <Chinese Medicine > Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:14:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Re: needleless treatments Hi Dave, Thank you :0) Thomas > Thomas, > > This method is very closely tied to Nan Jing method. The method is very > much based on getting feedback from the patient's body about correct point > selection. The order of treatment is a follows: > > 1. Bleed (if necessary) areas of stagnation around the 5 transport points > and other stagnation. > 2) Meridian Balancing (this evolved from Toyohari, but Dr. Bear stopped > his association with Toyohari about 15 years ago). Rather than using the > mother/son relationship, Dr. Bear finds that the Nan Jing Husband/Wife > relationship is most clinically effective. > > 3) Fundamental Treatment: A set series of points to correct any > practitioner deficiencies in the meridian balancing and to build up the > patient's Yuan Qi. Specific point location and needling technique used is > based on the feedback from the patient's body. > > 4) Needling the problem area. Local treatment for any pain or > muscular/skeletal problems or points for internal problems. > > 5) Additional meridian balancing techniques to control pain. > > 6) San Shin needling (reducing, even or tonification) on the surface of > the body. > > 7) Moxa, either direct or Ginger moxa. > > > I agree that the method works very well also for excess pattern -- I still > almost always use this method for both excess and deficiency. > > Dave > > David Toone, L.Ac. > Health without Drugs or Surgery > 105 Tivoli Gardens > Peachtree City, GA 30269 > 770.780.9608 > info > www.davidtoone.com > Chinese Medicine , Thomas Sørensen > <> wrote: >> >> Hi David, >> >> >> > >> > I use Teishin almost exclusively in my clinic. The longer I practice, >> > the less I insert needles. I study the " Dr. Bear " method taught by >> > Anryu Iwashina ( http://www.geocities.jp/anryu89 ). He has been coming >> > to the US about once a year to teach at AIMC in Berkeley. I don't know >> > what the status is next year, but contact the school for more >> > information. >> >> >> I read about the Dr. Bear method in NAJOM - Very interesting reading :0) >> >> >> >> > Regarding effectiveness, I have been really pleased with the results >> > vis-a-vie insertion methods and I find practicing this method very >> > rewarding. I feel that contact needling works very well, especially >> > for deficient patients -- Japanese practitioners can't use herbs due >> > to licensing restrictions in Japan. >> >> >> I have the exact same experience. I also use Teishin roughly 98~99% of >> the time using " non-contact " needling. I find it to be quite effective >> for excess conditions as well... all Shi/Xie Qi/Ja Ki is rooted in Qi >> Xu/Ki Kyo anyways... >> >> Could you, please, write more about your style of practice? I am always >> VERY interested in hearing more about the use of Teishin.... >> >> :0) >> >> Thomas >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Althea Akupunktur >> Albanigade 23A, kld. >> 5000 Odense C >> >> Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 >> http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk >> >> RAB: 2006059 >> CVR: 27322646 >> >> Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse >> Reg.: 9133 >> Konto: 2050409 >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 David, Sorry it took such a long time to get back to you, but I had to reflect over what I am actually doing in clinic.... quite a healthy thing to do once in a while ;0) And sorry about the lenght of this post...... I consider myself a practitioner of Meridian Therapy, but I don't follow any specific school within this style. However I do follow the NanJing quite closely and treat almost exclusively with non-contact needling and moxibustion, however I do incorporate contact needling as well as superficial needling (gauge 00) in about 1% of all treatments . My basic assumption is that that all symptom stems from a constitutional lack of Yüan Qi in one or more of the Yin meridians compounded by lack of flow in emotions (influenced by constitution, upbringing, culture, trauma, etc.) and by poor lifestyle choices and then often triggered by Wind, Cold as well as Dampness, but only rarely by heat - I live in a cold country ;0) Dx: My interview usually cover Symptom - where, when, how, etc. and also questions regarding the function of the Zang, ie asking about general mood, preference food/digestion, breathing, Body fluids, menstruation, etc..... Looking diagnosis: Eyes (Five Wheels and eye movement), facial color (5 colors), looking at the tongue in 5 areas reflecting the 5 Zang (ie. right edge for Lunge, left edge for Liver etc.). Looking for discolorations on the face, meridians, etc. Palpation diagnosis: I alternate between three " depths " of palpation regardless of where the palpation is executed - Palm scanning, Feeling the skin and deeper palpation of muscle, tendon, etc.. Palpation of the abdomen in 5 areas reflecting the 5 Zang (pulsating, pressure pain, stiffness, temperature (coldnessespecially) and in 4 areas reflecting the 8EV (Yoshio Manaka's), Palpation of Lu6 Bilaterally for Skin texture/temperature, Palpation of meridians looking for coldness, stiffness, pressure pain, nodules, etc. Smelling / listening diagnosis: limits itself to tone of voice, strength of voice and to any offensive body odor there might be The most important part of diagnosis for me is without comparison pulse diagnosis. I use comparative pulse diagnosis as typically seen in most styles of Meridian Therapy. I do not use the 28/29 traditional pulse qualities as such. In my work I find it more useful to evaluate pulse quality by parameters (Rythm, speed, width and depth) probably because I am to dense to get the traditional pulse qualities... I also use 8EV pulse diagnosis on occasion. All information is categorized into 5E, but the diagnosis itself is differentiated from the pulse determining the Sho. I work with five Sho, that is I include a Heart Sho which I quite often see in clinic. Tx: 1) Root treatment with the patient lying down: Pulse balancing: I choose between the 5E points by pulse. Ie in a lunge deficiency; even though the Lunge pulse is generally deficient there will be a hardness (I interpret this as pathogenic Cold) somewhere in the pulse either in the depth or in the superficial portion. This particular hardness of the pulse says somthing about where the channel is mainly obstructed turning into a pathological cold. I use the Bean pressure method from the NanJing to differentiate this. So for instance if the hardness is most explicit at 6 beans pressure I will use the fire point of the Lung meridian for treatment. It usually turns out that this given point is the most reactive one and also more often than not corresponds to the nature of the symptomatic presentation. I occasionally do what I call " Root treatment support " by applying Chinetsukyu (Heat perception moxibustion) on the Koshi (sacrum and lower back). I choose points on the koshi that are rubbery in texture. The usual points in question are usually one or more of following points: Bl25 (LI Shu point), 26 (SJ Shu II), 27 (SI Shu), 28 (Bl Shu), GB 29½ (Gb Shu II), the Iliac crest 1 ~3 cun lateral to the second Bladder line (St Shu II). 2) Symptomatic treatment: As a general rule: If the symptom is above the level of St 25 and/or primarily emotional/spiritual the patient receives symptomatic treatment sitting. If the symptom is below the level of St 25 or needs 8EV treatment the patient receives treatment standing. I very rarely treat the Back Shu (I use the outer Bladder line as a kind of Shu points as well ie Bl42 is consistently released by LI4 then it must be a Back Shu point for LI or at least for Metal Yang) above the iliac crest or for that matter Front Mu points (Yoshio Manaka's Mu points + classical Mu points) I use them primarily for feedback in symptomatic treatment. So the general outline for choosing points to treat the symptoms goes somthing like this: 1) Check the Back Shu of the diagnosed Sho as well as of the involved meridian(s) from bottom to top and release any tension, stiffness and/or pressure pain by treating their associated Yüan Source points - Recheck Back Shu to confirm release. In regards to symptoms in the upper body: If no or only partial release of Back Shu I check Bl16-17 (if reactive release with Sp10), Bl12 (if reactive release with Lu7 classical location works best), Bl12 (if reactive release with Gb39) In regards to symptoms in the lower body: If no or only partial release of the back Shu I check Gb Shu II (if reactive release with Gb40) and Bl25 (if reactive release with LI4). 2) If the symptom hasn't resolved completely or close to - which it surprisingly often happens in many types of symptoms - then I usually resort to Jing Well points of the involved channel(s) which I locate anywhere from the traditional point location to the tip of the finger by palpating for stiffness. The point is located where the stiffness is the most pronounced - it usually calls for VERY delicate palpation to find this area since it in my humble experience varies within .1 of a m.m. 3) check the channels for any left tension, stiffness and/or pain and treat this locally either by non-contact needling, san-shin or if this is inefficient treat with Chinetsukyu (Heat perception moxibustion) ...or just wait and see whether it resolves within the next 48 hours or so. It might look complex but a treatment usually only last about 20 ~25 minutes or so... Oh... and I almost never use points because of their indications..... The needling technique I use is an interpretation of NanJing questions number 78 and number 80 adapted to non-contact needling. This is more or less where I am at right now, but by practice is always undergoing change and actually I am researching right now whether it is equally effective to balance the pulses with patients sitting in comparison to balancing them with the patient lying down. If it is equally efficient it means that I can save time pr. treatment, providing the same quality or hopefully even better quality (quicker and longer lasting relief etc.) to the patient... Hope I haven't bored you or anyone else in the group. :0) Thomas lør, 25 07 2009 kl. 08:09 -0400, skrev David Toone: > > > Thomas, > > Likewise, I am interested in your method. > > Thanks > > David > > -- Althea Akupunktur Albanigade 23A, kld. 5000 Odense C Tlf.: 31 25 92 26 http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk RAB: 2006059 CVR: 27322646 Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse Reg.: 9133 Konto: 2050409 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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