yet another question :)

November 18, 2004

The fact that the doctor never even did a culture to find out this was a

staph infection and just wants to amputate would not only make me run

the other way, but I'd SERIOUSLY consider filing a complaint and maybe

more!

If I were her I'd get a new doctor, get on a strong antibiotic (this

sounds like one of those cases where a synthetic anti-biotic is quite

necessary) and if I couldn't get a prescription for an antibiotic I'd

start taking goldenseal root, which is a natural antibiotic and known to

be effective against staph both internally and externally. Also, I'd

make a poultice with goldenseal root powder, tea tree oil, lavender oil

(l. stoechas) and oregano oil (all strong anti-bacterial oils) and pack

that whole area and wrap it in a bandage and keep doing that until I saw

some results.

Also I'd eat LOTS of fresh garlic (boosts the immune system and is shown

to be effective against staph) and drink echinacea (angustifolia) tea

(immune system booster) for a time.

Good luck to her!

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

Chris Kelly [Purrrdy]

OK......remember the woman that had the spider bite that has never

healed? I made her tea bags of herbs to make a poultice with. She

wants

to keep on with this, as it seems to be helping. We'll try the green

clay

next. I also made her up some shea butter, emu oil, smidge of natural

beeswax to keep it together and I think just tea tree eo. That is

keeping

the area from cracking, so she is happy there too. She came by today

with

alligator tears in her eyes. She had just gotten off the phone with the

Dr, and he told her that he gives up and the only option is

amputation!!! Needless to say, she was very upset. In the 1 1/2 years

that this guy has been her Dr, he NEVER requested a lab to be run on the

infection! Thankfully, she is seeing a.....crud, I can't even think of

the

name! At any rate, this person decided to get a swab of the infected

area

and test it. She has Staph! I'm getting ready to do some reading up on

it

but from what I can remember, this is nasty stuff. Butch.....would

oregano

work here? She was telling me today that when it starts hurting pretty

badly, it is from one of her nerves and it goes all the way down to the

end

of one of her toes. I know nerve pain and it is impossible to treat,

even

with major drugs. The whole foot is still red and there is a

pulse......so

I don't think that it is just bad circulation......which is what one

quack

told her. This poor woman is at her wit's end....and then the lovely

Dr's

comments. I told her to tell him that she has a slight aversion to

saws!!!! She is going to call the lab tomorrow and see if they will

fax

me a copy of her complete report, so I can know better what I am up

against. I've searched through my herb books and am coming up empty

handed. Thanks guys!

Chris Kelly

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November 18, 2004

Yes, I agree with you, Chris. She really needs to be taken care of immediately

and the doctor too ! I've seen doctors like this get away with murder,

literally !

Jenn

jennsbellamiaskin

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Christine Ziegler

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:47 PM

RE: yet another question

The fact that the doctor never even did a culture to find out this was a

staph infection and just wants to amputate would not only make me run

the other way, but I'd SERIOUSLY consider filing a complaint and maybe

more!

November 21, 2004

, " Christine Ziegler "

<chrisziggy@e...> wrote:

> The fact that the doctor never even did a culture to find out this

was a

> staph infection and just wants to amputate

Yet another interesting thing I would like to read and keep up with

the posts. My husband gets staph all the time in the spring and fall

around his watch area. He just uses Javex Bleach on it. Now mind

you he is very much a man and would not say boo to the pain.

However, getting back to this. It was interesting that we were

talking about some of the patients he gets and he is seeing more and

more of the desease that is called that Fleshing Eating Disease. I

just forgot the proper term he uses. If it is not caught in time and

an extreme antibiotic regime is't used, the patient will die of it.

And again I only metion this because of the more frequent incidences

he is seeing now and the patient's own family physician usualy does

not pick up on it or dosent know it when he sees it.

Could it be that he is not saying something he already knows and

would probably get sued for if he now verbalizes what he should have

seen in the first place. If I remember correctly amputation is the

only way of trying to stop it from spreading to other parts of the

body.

Just food for thought.

Barbara

November 22, 2004

Hi Barbara,

" Flesh Eating Disease " is actually Streptococcus A. Strep A normally exists in

our bodies, as does many other undesirable bacteria - Strep B, E. Coli, etc. and

don't forget yeast or Candida which is a fungus. The problem with Strep A is

that it, when allowed to get out of control, rapidly spreads out from the

infected site. Strep A loves muscle tissue and literally eats it off the bone.

It progressess so rapidly that amputation is the only answer as well as heavy

doses of antibiotics to preserve other tissues and organ systems. The

antibiotics alone will NOT stop the infection once it has begun. Strep and

Staph both run rampant in hospitals. Problems exisist in part because of the

laxness of staff to not wash their hands, not wear jewelry, fake nails, and not

to clean day to day items that come in contact with infected parties. For

instance, when was the last time you saw a stethescope being cleaned with

alcohol prior to use on you? How many other folks do you think it

touched? What were these folks at the doctor/hospital for? Then couple that

with immunosuppression that typically comes with illness, and boom, Strep A.

Plus now medical folks and hospitals are having to deal with antibiotic

resistant Strep A, and all the " antibacterial " stuff on the market is

contributing to the problem. Yes, we all have " bad " bacteria on our skin, but

we also have good bacteria. When we kill the bacteria with antibacterial soaps,

we indiscrimiately kill both the good and bad varities, soooo that means we get

sick more often and stay immunosuppressed. In my home, we do NOT use

antibacterial products. We use soap and water. Researchers, which all of ya'll

probably know, have found that antibacterial products lose their effectiveness

when used more than 3 times per day. That means that we kill all our good stuff

and let our bad stuff out of control.

I had a friend who also got a staph infection every time she took a bath and

shaved her legs. She lived with her grandmother who cleaned the tub religiously

each and every time it was used with simple cleaners/disinfectants (bleach and

Lysol). The gal also used a clean razor every time she shaved her legs. It

went on for years. I haven't talked to her in quite a while, but it was

inconvenient to say the least for her and very troubling to her and her

grandmother because they could not figure out where the infection was coming

from.

Tips to remember, TELL your care providers to WASH THEIR HANDS before they touch

you. TELL your care providers to CLEAN THEIR STETHESCOPES before they touch

you. Ask when the last time the equipment they are using was disinfected

(especially blood presure cuffs, O2 sensors, and the like) to prevent infection.

Lets face it, we pay a literal fortune in insurance and health care costs. The

last thing we need is to be sick due to negligence of the medical establishment.

But of course, that is just my .02! LOL

Jill Mc.

Alabama

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