Regarding Detoxification and

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Some of this reply is covered in my last mail.

 

Andrea said:

>It is unfair to paint the word 'detoxification' as marketing hype<

>with a broad stroke like that.<

Agreed, but it achieved my aim of making people think about what they

say. The term - as you admit - is used without a second thought by

so many people involved in natural therapies. The fact is they often

do not have a clue about what they really mean and it becomes just

another buzz word.

 

There are many alien substances which get into our body that may be

classified as " toxins " . The fact the substance is classed as a

toxin does not invariably mean it will cause us any problems at all.

Lead is a good example, everyone carries some, but it only causes

poor health when it is in excess or perhaps more so in young people.

In an otherwise normal adult, if you use a treatment to reduce their

level of lead (which is not causing toxic effects) I would argue that

you are not detoxifying the body because no toxic effects are being

produced. There are several ways such as certain drugs to exercise

to fasting that can reduce the bodies levels of *some* hazardous

chemicals. There are others that sit in the bones and are almost

impossible to remove. You cannot " detoxify " radioactive particles

which we all carry, you can only hope to eliminate them and that is

far from easy.

 

Medical references using the word " detoxify " , often refer to a

substance being 'eliminated from the body'. The term should rightly

describe a substance being processed so that it cannot have a toxic

effect within the body. Not the same thing at all.

 

This is all immaterial really as we started talking about herbal

detox treatments and I remain skeptical that they can have much

influence on eliminating antibodies that cause problems compared to

those that we need. I note no one has come up with a response to my

own question on this issue.

 

Martin

 

, " Andrea " <itsmedrea1@c...>

wrote:

>

> Okay, I decided to just figure out how to concisely say 1. my point

in

> my disagreement and 2. back-up references

>

> I disagree with Martin has to say about detoxification because he is

> making it sound like it is all fluff and stuff. There have been

(and

> unless someone knows something I don't) will continue to be

scientific

> studies on real issues of detoxification of the human body. It is

> unfair to paint the word 'detoxification' as marketing hype with a

> broad stroke like that.

>

> People *know* that they are subjected to many environmental

> poisons/chemicals. They know that some of it is more than likely in

> their bodies. They know it as fact and that is why I think they

fall

> prey to so much of the hype out there. Instead of finding out about

> it really for themselves they think Lancome or some other such

> corporation is going to really care about them and produce something

> that is really going to help them??? And yes, I do wholeheartedly

> agree that there is soooooooooooo much beauty therapy 'make *us* a

lot

> of money' fluff out there. I don't disagree there. But there are

> many, many viable, true, scientificaly studied methods of

> detoxification also.

>

>

> Okay, some references...

>

> In my notes about studying about dental amalgams... AR Hibberd did a

> study about finding chealating agents to bind to the mercury in the

> body (which, among other places, ends up in the liver also!)to

> detoxify it. Don't have any more right now. Will get it.

>

> Guzelian PS (1982) Chlordecone poisoning. A case study in

approaches

> of detoxification of humans exposed to environmental chemicals.

Drug

> Metab Review 13:663-679

>

> Chisolm Jr JJ (1968) The use of chelating agents in the treatment of

> acute and chronic lead intoxication in childhood. J Pediatrics 73:1-

38

>

> Wedeen RP, Batuman V and Landy E (1983) The safety of the EDTA

> lead-mobilization test. Env Research 30:58-62

>

>

> Okay, just a few of them.

>

> So now I drop it as I feel my point has been well made!

>

> Andrea