Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 Butch Owen wrote: >Wonder why I'm not surprised reading the below? > > Dear Butch, I'm sorry, I need to give more background here, you know that emails can't express all the details that you can give when you are in front of one another. It's the second time you seem " ...not surprised... " ... do you know me so well? Before the list members start thinking that I regard Americans as a " curiosity " , just some details: I'm definitely not a French, I'm a Dutch speaking Belgian, living in France. Since you are not living in your homeland neither, you are probably aware of the different ways one country looks at another. Sometimes it's amusing, sometimes not. French people generally have the vision of their Belgian neighbors as being a bit stupid... Belgians generally see French people as being very chauvinistic... I could go on, about Germans or Dutch people,I was amazed to hear from Norwegians how they regarded their own neighbors, the Swedish or Danish people... This stereotypes are reflected in popular jokes. I observed that most Europeans (in their jokes) had a stereotype of the USA citizens as being a cowboy, or as the uncle Sam, with a lot of money in his pocket, trying to buy everything or impressing with the biggest or largest item or incredible things. I tried in my email to show the reactions of my French friends towards the " show " that Garry Young gave: most of my friends were used to know small distillation units, small scale plantations of herbs... and there you had Garry Young, showing one slide after another, the one more impressing than the other, how he started to distill, followed by images of huge new distillation units, fields of herb plantations without an end... Then he showed up with images of people with cancer he had healed with essential oils... all incredible and almost unbelievable for those present. That's the reason they could only shake their heads afterwards. That same evening or maybe a day later( it's more than five years ago) we were talking a long moment with a man from the region of Seattle I believe, and another member of the idma list, I had shared a lot on email with her, it was a great joy to meet one another. We were comparing samples of peppermint oil and talking about distillation units and the quality of oils, as he explained us that " In the USA, a truck could enter into the distillation unit... " My French friends and me were amazed: impossible! We were used to stills of maximum 3000 liters, the average being around 1000 liters. He pointed with his finger to the roadside and said that the kind of truck he was pointing at could easily enter... Our reaction was unbelief and laughter, " ,,, you Americans always want to have it bigger... " we were shouting. You should read the phrase " another American curiosity " in that context. Michel > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 Hi Michel, I thank you for clarifying the " American curiosity " statement. It is very interesting to see how different folks from different cultures (those close by and far away from each other) view other cultures and the people within those cultures and countries. I have a friend who just traveled to Amsterdam on business and he definitely had an opinion of that city and culture too I am happy to see that there are plenty of folks around the world - in the US and abroad, who just shake their heads at the spectacle that Gary Young and his organization is. I just wish there weren't any gullible folks out there who believe his nonsense, like some do, and worse, spread his lies with such zeal Anyway, thanks for the interesting discussion *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com Michel Vanhove [michel] Butch Owen wrote: >Wonder why I'm not surprised reading the below? > > Dear Butch, I'm sorry, I need to give more background here, you know that emails can't express all the details that you can give when you are in front of one another. It's the second time you seem " ...not surprised... " ... do you know me so well? Before the list members start thinking that I regard Americans as a " curiosity " , just some details: I'm definitely not a French, I'm a Dutch speaking Belgian, living in France. Since you are not living in your homeland neither, you are probably aware of the different ways one country looks at another. Sometimes it's amusing, sometimes not. French people generally have the vision of their Belgian neighbors as being a bit stupid... Belgians generally see French people as being very chauvinistic... I could go on, about Germans or Dutch people,I was amazed to hear from Norwegians how they regarded their own neighbors, the Swedish or Danish people... This stereotypes are reflected in popular jokes. I observed that most Europeans (in their jokes) had a stereotype of the USA citizens as being a cowboy, or as the uncle Sam, with a lot of money in his pocket, trying to buy everything or impressing with the biggest or largest item or incredible things. I tried in my email to show the reactions of my French friends towards the " show " that Garry Young gave: most of my friends were used to know small distillation units, small scale plantations of herbs... and there you had Garry Young, showing one slide after another, the one more impressing than the other, how he started to distill, followed by images of huge new distillation units, fields of herb plantations without an end... Then he showed up with images of people with cancer he had healed with essential oils... all incredible and almost unbelievable for those present. That's the reason they could only shake their heads afterwards. That same evening or maybe a day later( it's more than five years ago) we were talking a long moment with a man from the region of Seattle I believe, and another member of the idma list, I had shared a lot on email with her, it was a great joy to meet one another. We were comparing samples of peppermint oil and talking about distillation units and the quality of oils, as he explained us that " In the USA, a truck could enter into the distillation unit... " My French friends and me were amazed: impossible! We were used to stills of maximum 3000 liters, the average being around 1000 liters. He pointed with his finger to the roadside and said that the kind of truck he was pointing at could easily enter... Our reaction was unbelief and laughter, " ,,, you Americans always want to have it bigger... " we were shouting. You should read the phrase " another American curiosity " in that context. Michel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 <I have a friend who just traveled to Amsterdam on business and he definitely had an opinion of that city and culture too > Oh, do tell! That's my hometown. I still love it and always take one day by myself to visit it whenever I am in the country. I am utterly appalled at what has become of the first street that most people see when they come out of Central Station. We've always had the red light district but it was kind of discreetly tucked away in a certain neighbourhood. Now there is this gross blatant sex stuff right in your face whether you want it or not. Ien in the Kootenays ******************************* Stop. Breathe. Smile! ~Padma ( my TV yoga teacher) See my smiling face: http://www.greatestnetworker.com/is/ien ******************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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