Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Hey all- You guys are so great when I have questions ... I have a few more -Is there a difference btwn rose absolute and rose otto? -I saw " rose water " that is water with " hydroessential rose oil " ... whaaaaa? Is this rose hydosol? It smells better than the hydrosol I have... -I have some dead sea salts ... what are some ways to make them smell like roses? Can I use hydrosol or rose water? Thanks all! Melissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 > Hey all- Hi Melissa > You guys are so great when I have questions ... I have a few more You're so sweet > -Is there a difference btwn rose absolute and rose otto? Oooh, ooooh, I know this one Rose Absolute is solvent extracted while Rose Otto is steam distilled. Rose Absolute, while being a costly oil, is less expensive than Rose Otto. Some like Rose Absolute better for perfumery, but I feel that Rose Otto is a much more versatile oil - I can use it for aromatherapy, perfumery, in certain food recipes, etc .. I wouldn't do all that with Rose Absolute. > -I saw " rose water " that is water with " hydroessential rose oil " ... whaaaaa? Is this rose hydosol? I don't know what it is ;-p Probably from the name it is a water that had rose oil added to it and then was filtered, not a true rose hydrosol .... and it really shouldn't be used like a true hydrosol if you aren't sure. I personally use genuine unadulterated Rose Hydrosol in some of my food recipes and for " Aromatherapeutic " purposes. I've even used it for eye irritations, but I wouldn't use a " rosewater " I got on the market shelf for that cause I don't know for sure what it is made of. It could even have a synthetic rose oil added to it. Not saying it synthetic rose for certain, but there is a lot of synthetic rose or at the very least, extended and adulterated rose products on the market since true rose is so very costly. > It smells better than the hydrosol I have... Well, I can honestly say that I think that pure rose hydrosol is heavenly! Here is a picture of me splashing some fresh, warm, Turkish Rose Hydrosol right out of the still onto my face http://www.av-at.com/stuff/20chrisandhusseinrosewatersplash.jpg > -I have some dead sea salts ... what are some ways to make them smell like > roses? Can I use hydrosol or rose water? I'd use a few drops of the oil myself - and seal the jar well and shake. Keep the jar sealed to maintain the scent > Thanks all! > Melissa I hope that helps some! *Smile* Chris (list mom - off to put my sweet little boys to bed LAST DAY For The Helichrysum Special! http://www.alittleolfactory.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 how would you use it for eye irritations? I have one!!! Suzie --- Christine Ziegler <chrisziggy wrote: > > Hey all- > > Hi Melissa > > > You guys are so great when I have questions ... > I have a few more > > > You're so sweet > > > -Is there a difference btwn rose absolute and > rose otto? > > Oooh, ooooh, I know this one > > Rose Absolute is solvent extracted while Rose Otto > is steam distilled. > > Rose Absolute, while being a costly oil, is less > expensive than Rose > Otto. > > Some like Rose Absolute better for perfumery, but I > feel that Rose Otto > is a much more versatile oil - I can use it for > aromatherapy, perfumery, > in certain food recipes, etc .. I wouldn't do all > that with Rose > Absolute. > > > > -I saw " rose water " that is water with > " hydroessential rose oil " ... > > whaaaaa? Is this rose hydosol? > > I don't know what it is ;-p Probably from the name > it is a water that > had rose oil added to it and then was filtered, not > a true rose hydrosol > ... and it really shouldn't be used like a true > hydrosol if you aren't > sure. > > I personally use genuine unadulterated Rose Hydrosol > in some of my food > recipes and for " Aromatherapeutic " purposes. I've > even used it for eye > irritations, but I wouldn't use a " rosewater " I got > on the market shelf > for that cause I don't know for sure what it is made > of. > > It could even have a synthetic rose oil added to it. > Not saying it > synthetic rose for certain, but there is a lot of > synthetic rose or at > the very least, extended and adulterated rose > products on the market > since true rose is so very costly. > > > It smells better than the hydrosol I have... > > Well, I can honestly say that I think that pure rose > hydrosol is > heavenly! > > Here is a picture of me splashing some fresh, warm, > Turkish Rose > Hydrosol right out of the still onto my face > http://www.av-at.com/stuff/20chrisandhusseinrosewatersplash.jpg > > > > -I have some dead sea salts ... what are some > ways to make them > smell like > > roses? Can I use hydrosol or rose water? > > I'd use a few drops of the oil myself - and seal the > jar well and shake. > Keep the jar sealed to maintain the scent > > > Thanks all! > > Melissa > > I hope that helps some! > > *Smile* > Chris (list mom - off to put my sweet little boys to > bed > > LAST DAY For The Helichrysum Special! > http://www.alittleolfactory.com/ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 On Apr 29, 2005, at 5:24 AM, wrote: > >> -I have some dead sea salts ... what are some ways to make them > smell like >> roses? Can I use hydrosol or rose water? > > I'd use a few drops of the oil myself - and seal the jar well and > shake. > Keep the jar sealed to maintain the scent I'll add a little here. Chris already explained the difference between Rose otto and absolute- just know there is a lot of variety in the two- many different types, qualities, etc. As far as scenting your salts to have the scent of Rose you can do several things. First you can make a simple bath salts blend. In general I like about 8-10 drops or essential oils (total) per bath for an adult bath. Rose oil has a strong scent so you have use even less- try 6-8 to start for a strong scent. I cut it in half for children- and for young kiddos, the elderly or pregnant. For younger children even less may do and hydrosols alone are PERFECT- so gentle and lovely in the bath. Be sure to use the highest quality ingredients. Rose otto, Rose absolute, and Rose Hydrosol vary in quality and scent enormously and finding a true Rose oil or hydrosol is vital. Sample lots of different ones to see what you like best. Here are some ideas for a luxurious Rose scented bath (all in adult proportions): Rose Water Bath 1- 2 oz Rose Hydrosol (on it's own or combined with Orange Blossom/Neroli) This makes a subtle, sweet and lovely bath that is great for the skin. Hydrosols alone in the bath are perfect for sensitive conditions and for the elderly and children. Rose Milk Bath 1-2 oz Rose Hydrosol mixed with a cup of whole milk and added to the bath. (scatter fresh flower petals as well for a lovely effect) Rose Bath Salts 6-8 drops of Rose otto or absolute mixed with your salts mixture of dead sea salts, sea salts (coarse or fine), epsom salts, and bicarbonate of soda. 3/4-1 cup of the salts mix is sufficient per bath. Rose Bath Salts (Blends) Try making a rose scented blend that you love with a combination or Rose, Rose Geranium, and Rosewood. You can also add other oils to make a sweeter or earthier, spicier or more complex blend. Rose oil is expensive and Rose Geranium and Rosewood are not expensive, but also have great " rose " scent. Other additions you might consider are Sandalwood, Ylang Ylang, Neroli, Sweet Orange, Bitter Orange, and Lavender- as well as a very small quantity of a spice oil like Ginger or Nutmeg, or Cardamon- omit the spice oil in a children's bath. Hydrosols and Salts combined This is my passion!!! Try adding a Rose or Orange Blossom (Neroli) hydrosol (or a combination of each) to your bath salts just before getting into the tub. You are in for a HUGE treat. I love to add hydrosols to my bath salts blends, especially Blooming Waters (which contains a co-distilled (with steam) Rose and Geranium), or Gentle Flowers (contains Chamomile roman, Lavender, and Rose oils), or Ginger Citrus (this blend speaks for itself), Ashira (a combination of Jasmine and other flowers), Hara (a Rose and Vetiver blend)...actually it works with most of my bath salts beautifully. Try adding a couple of ounces of your favorite hydrosol to your Rosy bath salts for a huge indulgence. 1/2 cup of your bath salts blend that contains about 6-8 drops essential oils plus an ounce of hydrosol is really gorgeous. I also like to make an ayurvedic paste of ground herbs, spices, and rice and add Rose hydrosol instead or water and use from head to toe as a special scrub/ treatment. I also add hydrosols to my masks. The uses for these gorgeous waters is seemingly endless. Rose Body Face and Hair Treatment (treat;-) Mix equal quantities of Rose hydrosol with pure organic virgin coconut butter/ oil. Blend completely (this amazing blend has almost no shelf life so just be happy making it as you need it). Use on your body and face after the bath or use on your hair and scalp and leave on while you bathe. I like to add oils or spices to create a blend for a specific dosha or condition. Don't forget to light some candles, play some soothing music and fully indulge in your precious Rose bath experience! I could go on and on about other uses for Rose hydrosol (ok, try adding a spoonful to excellent quality pure Vanilla ice cream and and a tiny smidge of black pepper and cardamom)...but I am afraid this email is becoming far too long! Enjoy your ROSES!! Elizabeth Whole Life Essentials http://www.WholeLifeEssentials.com Request a Free SAMPLE of our GORGEOUS Rose absolute with your order! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 , Suzie Hubbell <suzqhub> wrote: > how would you use it for eye irritations? I have > one!!! > > Suzie A pure organic tested rose hydrosol can be used as an eye wash or compress. I prefer Myrtle hydrosol for eyes, or an herbal infusion- eyebright or chamomile. Again I would stress quality when using anything on the eyes. I use these hydrosols in a small spray bottle for the eyes or in a sterilized eye cup. You can use distilled water to dilute. Elizabeth http://www.wholelifeessentials.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Since we are on the subject of Rose, this interesting discussion happened to me recently. I was talking to a friend about purity of oils and the idea that oils are not usually absorbed through the skin. My friend claims that she knows that the rose oil is pure and being absorbed becasue she can taste it in her mouth when she applies it to her chest. Okay, I am going off of no facts....... Sounds like some DMSO or some solvent my training is as a toxicology tech, doing research with many chemicals, some you don't want to know about (I live in Maryland near Ft. Detrick) What are the facts regarding skin absorption and Rose EO? Anne gracefulbeing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Hi Anne, > Since we are on the subject of Rose, this interesting discussion > happened to me recently. > I was talking to a friend about purity of oils and the idea that oils > are not usually absorbed through the skin. Not that oils aren't absorbed through the skin at all ... its that ALL of the components of any given oil aren't absorbed through the skin > My friend claims that she knows that the rose oil is pure and being > absorbed becasue she can taste it in her mouth when she applies it to > her chest. I don't see how an experience like that (valid or not) would be any indication of the purity of an oil in any way ... just cause it gets absorbed into her skin means its pure? It doesn't seem like one thing would really have anything to do with another ... some synthetic dyes can stain the skin, does that mean they're " pure and natural " ? Its an apples and oranges argument ... Also, she might be tasting it cause she can smell it. I know that I can " taste " smells all the time .. and smell tastes too. I would think it would take a LOT of Rose oil for her to taste it JUST from absorption. Gosh that would be expensive since rose is costing about $19 or so per ml these days - dang! *lol* And remember - this is coming from a gal who, in her day, has poured kilos of rose oil(you always end up dribbling a wee bit onto the skin - which is probably more than she is putting onto her skin in the chest rub) and took a bath in 25 KG of pure rose hydrosol I have been exposed to LOTS of rose oil and I have NEVER " tasted " it due to topical absorption. Tasted it from smelling it, most certainly, but not cause I put it onto my skin .. > Okay, I am going off of no facts....... > Sounds like some DMSO or some solvent > my training is as a toxicology tech, doing research with many chemicals, > some you don't want to know about (I live in Maryland near Ft. Detrick) So you know very well that just cause something is natural doesn't mean it will be absorbed into the skin, and on the flip side, just cause something is synthetic doesn't mean it won't be absorbed into the skin .... but some silly wabbit friends just don't want to believe it > What are the facts regarding skin absorption and Rose EO? I am sure that Martin or Butch can get into this a lot more technical and explain this better than little ol' me can ... but I will opine a wee bit .. In a nutshell ... Any given " pure " , " genuine " . " unadulterated " EO has a whole lotta (naturally occurring) chemical constituents - a synergy of components if you will. Some of those chemical components will be absorbed into the skin, and some won't. Certain chemicals will be absorbed faster and deeper, some slower and shallower, and some not at all. The total percentage of chemicals actually absorbed into the body via the epidermal layers will be nothing like the chemical composition of what the oil had to begin with. The controversy over using Aromatherapy topically for internal issues (not topical skin issues - that is a whole other discussion) is that you're not going to be getting a whole or complete oil into the bloodstream or internal systems. A much more effective way of getting the full synergy that any essential oil has to offer is to inhale it, as that WILL get the complete range of natural chemicals that the oil contains into the body, as opposed to putting it on top of a barrier that is made to keep stuff out of the body. Think if it like wanting to shine light onto yourself, but putting an umbrella and a brimmed hat between you and the light source first. Yes, some of the light will still get through the umbrella, and even through the hat - its not going to block light fully and give you a blackout .. you might even still be able to read by the light somewhat, but you're not going to be getting all that light being put out by the the source because your barriers are doing their job .. being barriers - and that is the job of your skin - to keep your guts in and keep plenty of other stuff out (and also be an excretory organ, but we're not going into that now > Anne > gracefulbeing *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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