******IMPORTANT INFO on IMMUNIZATIONS - Autism, Mercury and the California Numbers

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> It is sad that a few children have these reactions.Many in certain

geographic areas.However, you have spent any time in a children's hospital

where you have had to watch kids with diseases that were supposedly wiped

out you may feel different.Ravenstone

 

I agree...it's sad that children have reactions to immunizations. If the

allegations of mercury poisoning from immunizations are true, then it is

more than just a few children that have been affected. Without the

immunizations, where would we be? Who knows, for certain?

 

I made the decision to immunize my kids on the assumption that it would be

for the greater-good of our community/nation/world, in spite of the risks

which were printed out and handed to me before my kids were immunized.

Unless researchers can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that immunizations

don't contribute in any way towards autistic behaviors and symptoms, those

risks should also be in print on those sheets, IMO.

 

> In no way do I intend to start a debate about immunizing children. I

weighed my options, and chose what I felt I needed to choose. Since my first

child (Indigo, 6) was born with cleft lip and palate, we knew from the

moment of her birth that she'd be spending plenty of time in Chicago's

Shriner's Hospital for children. After our first visit to the hospital (when

Indigo was 9 days old) I decided that it would be unfair to think of

potentially subjecting all those kids to disease, so when the hospital let

us know Indigo would not be admitted without up-to-date immunizations, we

didn't fight them.

 

Having spent a good amount of time in children's hospitals, I'm aware that

the problems my kids have had to deal with are miniscule compared to

other's. I'm thankful for the hospitals; thankful for the people researching

why kids can be cleft-affected, autistic, etc.. I'm also prayerful that

someday we'll learn more about how to prevent these things. I'm prayerful

that the information regarding treatment and/or therapy, etc. will become

more clear each day so that I can continue to do the best for my children

that I can, with the facts I've been given. It just 'appears', from some

angles, that instead of working hard to find a solution to the problem, lots

of time is being spent shuffling or sloughing off blame. Please keep in mind

that this is coming from a (single parent, due to dh traveling 5/6 of the

month) who has three kids six and under...dealing with Tristan freaking

about poop touching him. We keep a carpet shampoo'er on standby and the

shower curtain open. Laundry piles up because I'm busy running poopy items

through the washer 2-3 times.I disinfect toys more than some

daycares...because TJ has runny stools and if I'm not right there with him

when he poops, he'll take his diaper off, or dig in it and wipe poop all

over himself and anything he's near. Every day, I watch and wait...because

he doesn't talk...to tell me that he needs to poop, or has already pooped.

I'm tired! I (selfishly) just want the answers handed to me that pertain

specifically to my son. lol So, I get frustrating, having to dig through all

this schtuff about autism, being 'shot down' by my doc when I'm earnestly

looking for a solution. <sigh> Okay...off to bed! I'll research more in the

weeks/months/years ahead and do what I can. I appreciate your patience with

my 'rant'.

 

Have a great week, everyone!

Lisa

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

>It is sad that a few children have these

>reactions.Many in certain geographic areas.However, if

>you have spent any time in a children's hospital where

>you have had to watch kids with diseases that were

>supposedly wiped out you may feel different.Ravenstone

 

I dunno. The anti-vaccination crowd claims the very foundations

vaccination is built on are unscientific, very inaccurate, etc... I

haven't taken time to research the claims that, for example, smallpox

rates increased in many countries *until* use of the vaccine was

discontinued, but they bear looking into... I also see folks claiming

that many diseases that have been said to have been eradicated by

vaccination actually went away due to improvements in things like

diet, cleanliness/sanitation, etc.

 

There are undeniably other " convenient side effects " of nearly

compulsory vaccination, mainly economic, that brings my cynicism to

bear... and more than needing something beyond tugging on my heart

strings, I imagine that watching sick kids would have me yearning

even more for good information, not simply accepting what the folks

who want our money tell us.

 

-Josh

[Guest guest]

Personally I think the best way is to use seperate vaccinations instead of

allowing the child to be given mixed vaccines at one time,started at a later

age. Some of the vax are totally unnecessary but several are too important to

ignore. I too have seen the ravages of these diseases, I remember in England

the children that limped from contracting polio and pictures of the ones in the

iron lung contraption. Also the horribly scarred faces of children who got

smallpox. Its like dogs and vaxs, they are being over vaccinated but with the

conservative vax approach during puppyhood and titering thereafter the dogs can

be safely innoculated with few bad effects. For what its worth my 5 adult

children appear unharmed by the vax they received in childhood but I would take

a more conservative approach if they were youngsters today but they would get

the ones I consider necessary

anne

 

It is sad that a few children have these

reactions.Many in certain geographic areas.However, if

you have spent any time in a children's hospital where

you have had to watch kids with diseases that were

supposedly wiped out you may feel different.Ravenstone

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Lisa,

I have a good friend who has 2 autistic boys.

One higher functioning and the other is not.I give her

a break every once in a while(It is very hard to get

her to take time for HERSELF).I know that Utah has a

restbit program for babysitters paid by the

state.Perhaps there is something like that in your

area?Ravenstone

 

--- " Lisa Nelson, Head Honcho of An Indigo Rose "

<An.Indigo.Rose wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

> he doesn't talk...to tell me that he needs to poop,

> or has already pooped.

> I'm tired! I (selfishly) just want the answers

> handed to me that pertain

> specifically to my son. lol So, I get frustrating,

> having to dig through all

> this schtuff about autism, being 'shot down' by my

> doc when I'm earnestly

> looking for a solution. <sigh> Okay...off to bed!

> I'll research more in the

> weeks/months/years ahead and do what I can. I

> appreciate your patience with

> my 'rant'.

>

> Have a great week, everyone!

> Lisa

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Both my kids have had all their shots and we have have

had no problems.I do have another friend whos child

had a very bad reaction but seems to be fine now.

 

Newsweek had an article on the connection in

California

last year or maybe the year before.

 

Ravenstone

 

 

--- Garden <garden wrote:

 

> Personally I think the best way is to use seperate

> vaccinations instead of allowing the child to be

> given mixed vaccines at one time,started at a later

> age. Some of the vax are totally unnecessary but

> several are too important to ignore. I too have

> seen the ravages of these diseases, I remember in

> England the children that limped from contracting

> polio and pictures of the ones in the iron lung

> contraption. Also the horribly scarred faces of

> children who got smallpox. Its like dogs and vaxs,

> they are being over vaccinated but with the

> conservative vax approach during puppyhood and

> titering thereafter the dogs can be safely

> innoculated with few bad effects. For what its worth

> my 5 adult children appear unharmed by the vax they

> received in childhood but I would take a more

> conservative approach if they were youngsters today

> but they would get the ones I consider necessary

> anne

>

> It is sad that a few children have these

> reactions.Many in certain geographic

> areas.However, if

> you have spent any time in a children's hospital

> where

> you have had to watch kids with diseases that were

> supposedly wiped out you may feel

> different.Ravenstone

>

>

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