Sudsy soap vs sudless soap

[Guest guest]

Dissolving a little sugar in your water before adding your lye, helps the

soap suds a little.

 

Juana Serrano

True Essence Bath & Body

 

TrueEssenceBathAndBody.com

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I was wondering if someone could tell me what makes the difference in a cake

of soap that suds up prolificily with just the slightest swipe, vs other

bars that you can try and try to suds up and get very little. Is this an

ingredient that's added to the bar soap to cause this to happen, and is it a

good additive so that it would be a good indication as to whether this is a

good bar of soap, and which one is preferable as far as being

health-oriented ? I know that natural herbal plants such as yucca root and

soapwort are hard to soap up; you really need to work at it. Does that tell

us anything?

 

Thanks,

sandra

[Guest guest]

I use Castor Oil in my soaps to add suds. I make what I consider large batches.

In the 38 bar mold I use 10 oz. of Castor Oil.

 

Julia

 

Graber Girl By Julia

Julia Graber Cregger

[Guest guest]

Thanks Julia and Juana. I think I should have been more clear that the bar

soaps I was talking about were some that I purchased. I do not make soap

myself. That's why I didn't know what it was in them that made them suds up

or not, and since I try to buy soap that's only with natural ingredients,

cruelty free, etc. like vegetable, olive oil soaps, I couldn't understand

what it was that made the difference in sudsing. The ones that suds easily

do last much longer, as you don't need to use as much, and are easier to

use, but since I have a chronic skin condition, I am selective about what is

in them, so need to know if I should buy that particular brand again. If

it's castor oil that is good, and maybe olive oil also does it? So maybe

it's just the oils in them?

 

Thanks,

sandra

 

> I use Castor Oil in my soaps to add suds. I make what I consider large

> batches. In the 38 bar mold I use 10 oz. of Castor Oil.

>

> Julia

>

>

> Dissolving a little sugar in your water before adding your lye, helps the

> soap suds a little.

>

> Juana Serrano

> True Essence Bath & Body

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandra,

 

Different oils have different properties when made into soap. Some give

a hard bar, others make a softer bar. Some give a more conditioning

lather while others give a fluffy lather, etc ... It all has to do with

the types of fatty acids in the oils.

 

Here is a good link to give you some more specific info about all of

that

http://millersoap.com/soapdesign.html#Properties

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

 

Think left and think right and think low and think high. Oh, the thinks

you can think up if only you try!

- Dr Seuss

 

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

 

>

>

> On Behalf Of sandra

> Thanks Julia and Juana. I think I should have been more clear

> that the bar

> soaps I was talking about were some that I purchased. I do

> not make soap

> myself. That's why I didn't know what it was in them that

> made them suds up

> or not, and since I try to buy soap that's only with natural

> ingredients,

> cruelty free, etc. like vegetable, olive oil soaps, I

> couldn't understand

> what it was that made the difference in sudsing. The ones

> that suds easily

> do last much longer, as you don't need to use as much, and

> are easier to

> use, but since I have a chronic skin condition, I am

> selective about what is

> in them, so need to know if I should buy that particular

> brand again. If

> it's castor oil that is good, and maybe olive oil also does

> it? So maybe

> it's just the oils in them?

>

> Thanks,

> sandra

[Guest guest]

Hi Christine,

 

That tells me that it is the _oils_ that are in the soap that make it sudsy

or sudsier. I hope that I got that right. I've only made soap mixtures for

clotheswashing and didn't need to add oils, but I would like to try

rebatching sometime to include good oils and eo's.

 

That is an excellent site that you gave me that explains all this in detail.

Thanks so much for that explanation and the website!

sandra

 

 

 

> Different oils have different properties when made into soap. Some give

> a hard bar, others make a softer bar. Some give a more conditioning

> lather while others give a fluffy lather, etc ... It all has to do with

> the types of fatty acids in the oils.

>

> Here is a good link to give you some more specific info about all of

> that

> http://millersoap.com/soapdesign.html#Properties

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandra,

 

I think I might have confused ya little bit.

 

When I referred to oils I meant the oils that soap is made with in the

first place, not oils added to already made soap.

 

Basic soap is made with 3 things -

1. a fat of some sort (whether it be an animal fat such as lard, tallow,

etc .. or a vegetable fat such as olive oil, coconut oil, etc ...)

2. lye (sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide)

3. water (to dissolve the lye in)

 

Those 3 ingredients when combined make a new chemical compound whose

common name is " soap "

 

The fats (oils) that are used to make the soap in the first each have

different characteristics when they are turned into a " soap " compound.

For example - Sodium cocoate (soap made from coconut oil) has a very

fluffy bubbly lather, but it can be a bit drying to the skin because it

is a really good degreaser. Sodium olivate (which is soap made from

olive oil) has a more conditioning lather with smaller bubbles, but is

not so stripping and drying .. and so on.

 

When rebatching soap you melt your basic soap then can add all sorts of

other things you want in there - such as essential oils, herbs, even

some extra oils to " superfat " the soap .. but those aren't going to so

much affect your lather. The thing that will affect the lather more than

anything else is the fats/oils that were used in the first place to make

that soap compound.

 

I hope that helped clarify it a bit.

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

 

Think left and think right and think low and think high. Oh, the thinks

you can think up if only you try!

- Dr Seuss

 

http://www.alittleolfactory.com <http://www.alittleolfactory.com/>

 

 

 

On Behalf Of sandra

 

Hi Christine,

 

That tells me that it is the _oils_ that are in the soap that make it

sudsy

or sudsier. I hope that I got that right. I've only made soap mixtures

for

clotheswashing and didn't need to add oils, but I would like to try

rebatching sometime to include good oils and eo's.

 

That is an excellent site that you gave me that explains all this in

detail.

Thanks so much for that explanation and the website!

sandra

 

 

 

> Different oils have different properties when made into soap. Some

give

> a hard bar, others make a softer bar. Some give a more conditioning

> lather while others give a fluffy lather, etc ... It all has to do

with

> the types of fatty acids in the oils.

>

> Here is a good link to give you some more specific info about all of

> that

> http://millersoap.com/soapdesign.html#Properties

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Christine,

 

Yes, that did help a lot, to know all that about the oils in the soaps. I

try to get the ones with the oils like coconut and olive and will pay more

attention to what oils are in them when I read the labels.

I like the idea of rebatching too, and want to try that soon.

 

Thanks so much for explaining that even further.

sandra

 

I referred to oils I meant the oils that soap is made with in the

first place, not oils added to already made soap.

 

Basic soap is made with 3 things -

1. a fat of some sort (whether it be an animal fat such as lard, tallow,

etc .. or a vegetable fat such as olive oil, coconut oil, etc ...)

2. lye (sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide)

3. water (to dissolve the lye in)

 

Those 3 ingredients when combined make a new chemical compound whose

common name is " soap "

 

The fats (oils) that are used to make the soap in the first each have

different characteristics when they are turned into a " soap " compound.

For example - Sodium cocoate (soap made from coconut oil) has a very

fluffy bubbly lather, but it can be a bit drying to the skin because it

is a really good degreaser. Sodium olivate (which is soap made from

olive oil) has a more conditioning lather with smaller bubbles, but is

not so stripping and drying .. and so on.

 

When rebatching soap you melt your basic soap then can add all sorts of

other things you want in there - such as essential oils, herbs, even

some extra oils to " superfat " the soap .. but those aren't going to so

much affect your lather. The thing that will affect the lather more than

anything else is the fats/oils that were used in the first place to make

that soap compound.

 

I hope that helped clarify it a bit.

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mo

[Guest guest]

> I was wondering if someone could tell me what makes the difference in a

cake

> of soap that suds up prolificily with just the slightest swipe, vs other

> bars that you can try and try to suds up and get very little. Is this an

> ingredient that's added to the bar soap to cause this to happen, and is it

a

> good additive so that it would be a good indication as to whether this is

a

> good bar of soap, and which one is preferable as far as being

> health-oriented ? I know that natural herbal plants such as yucca root and

> soapwort are hard to soap up; you really need to work at it. Does that

tell

> us anything?

>

> Thanks,

> sandra

 

As I haven't read all the emails that follow this...don't know if anyone

else has responded yet or not. Coconut oil causes the lather in most soaps.

But it can be drying if too much. I myself add castor oil to most all of my

soaps. Which is also an oil that creates a lot of lather...but too much

makes for a soft bar. There is a happy medium in all the oils used for

soaping. The best site I can recommend is Kathy Miller's site...don't have

it bookmarked but do a google search on soap+Kathy Miller. She has within

her site a page or three on properties of oils..it gives the oils'

properties as to whether it is a conditioning, lather producing, or hardness

producing oil.

 

Another note here is that as with the natural stuff that is used as a soap,

ie yucca and soapwart, it doesn't have to lather to clean.

HTH~

Anita in TX

[Guest guest]

Coconut oil causes the lather in most soaps.

> But it can be drying if too much. I myself add castor oil to most all of

> my

> soaps. Which is also an oil that creates a lot of lather...but too much

> makes for a soft bar. There is a happy medium in all the oils used for

> soaping. The best site I can recommend is Kathy Miller's site...don't

> have

> it bookmarked but do a google search on soap+Kathy Miller. She has within

> her site a page or three on properties of oils..it gives the oils'

> properties as to whether it is a conditioning, lather producing, or

> hardness

> producing oil.

>

> Another note here is that as with the natural stuff that is used as a

> soap,

> ie yucca and soapwart, it doesn't have to lather to clean.

> HTH~

> Anita in TX

>

>

>

>

Anita,

 

Thanks for your reply to my question; Christine did mention that it was the

oils in the soap that will make it suds or not. It sounds like whichever one

is used, coconut, olive or castor oil, they all sound pretty healthy.

Yes, I think that's true about the natural plants not needing to lather to

clean, or they would.

 

Thanks for that site..I should bea ble to find any questions I have answered

there, along with the site Christine sent.

 

thanks,

sandra