Safe Dilution for Blends ** Was: Pricing/Commission Guidelines

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On Nov 20, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Butch Owen wrote:

 

> Hey Elizabeth .. other good folks ..

 

Hi there Butch... and other good folks ;-)

 

>

> On the below .. we get back to the CYA I mentioned in a previous post.

>

> > By the way, if you are selling undiluted blends to the public it is

> > always a good idea to assume they have no idea not to put these

> > essential oil blends directly on the skin (and various other placed

> > they feel moved to do so) without proper dilution and safety taken

> > into consideration. It's wise to label with clear warnings, etc.

> when

> > selling something undiluted whether a single essential oil or a

> blend.

> > Otherwise they will think they can use it neat on their skin - or

> > client's skin,, etc. Which they can not.

>

> I think the above regards dermal application.  If so, the potential

> problems are irritation, sensitization and photo sensitization.  With

> some luck, irritation is a relatively easy problem to avoid and photo

> sensitization is very easy one to avoid .. the odds of sensitization

> occurring can be greatly reduced with proper care but its not possible

> to completely avoid it under any circumstances.

 

 

Yes, I think with any undiluted blend or a single oil that leaves our

place of business and makes it into the hands of someone else we have

to assume that they do not know what is safe use and at least supply

the most basic of safety warnings. We can't easily print all they need

to know on a label. I use my labels and my website to try to warn and

help people to use what they purchase safely and effectively. Sure,

dermal use neat is the concern, but honestly we both know that people

will do all kinds of things with essential oils assuming because they

are " natural " that they are also " safe " . I still see this far too

often.

 

We are still certainly going to sell undiluted singles and blends for

people to use properly diluted (dermal use) or undiluted in a diffuser

or sniffed. I'm sure we all would like to feel we have done all we can

to discourage mishandling/use of these materials.

 

 

 

>

> If the above is all about sniffing or diffusing then there are no

> potential problems.

>

> I don't deal with blends .. I offer only single source oils.  On each

> bottle it tells the buyer to properly dilute before use .. that's the

> best I can do unless I want to quote the stats from the Safety Manual

> " Plant Aromatics "   http://www.av-at.com/plantaromaticsavnp.html on

> each

> label. 

 

True. True. This is an absolute " must have " . I would also suggest

Sylla's two volumes.

I think you also carry it- and maybe Marge does also.

 

 

> If I did that it would be a difficult task but not an impossible

> one.  However .. when one mixes 5-6 EO neat in a blend they are making

> it real difficult for the buyer to know the safe dilution.  The safe

> dilution will not necessarily be the lowest dilution percentage of the

> most potent EO .. because there is a cumulative effect when we blend

> together EO with similar chemical components.

 

It's true. An advantage of selling an undiluted single or blend

(synergy) to someone who is has the proper information is that they can

dilute appropriately for their needs. They may add 4 drops of Lavender

to their mineral salts and add to a bath for their 6 yr old and later

on have a Lavender bath themselves mixing twice that amount into the

same salts and water. Or they may want to use the Lavender neat in

their diffuser or sniff from the bottle. An undiluted bottle is

flexible and safe in the hands of someone who has sufficient knowledge

(and reliable safety references).

 

 

>

> I can't offer a simple solution to this potential problem .. and maybe

> the problem is not one we should dwell on too much anyway because I'm

> not hearing much about this being a problem.  To completely CYA would

> require a lot of laborious calculations .. but a simple solution might

> be to recommend the buyers consider taking responsibility for their

> own

> well being by purchasing a copy of Plant Aromatics.  Even then, the

> percentage of various EO would have to be known .. and that would be

> giving away a trade secret.

 

 

Unsafe use of undiluted essential oils does continue to be a risk and

interestingly enough now that practices like RDT are commonly found in

spas I have found that I need to take care with the spa owners I work

with to be sure they have some basic understanding. I also encourage

hydrosol use in spa applications ;-)

 

 

>

> Maybe the solution is to recommend the buyer purchase Plant Aromatics,

> which is a well documented, scientific CYA document on safe dilution

> of

> EO .. and then keep the fingers crossed.  ;-)

 

 

No maybe about it. I recommend it constantly. There is far more to know

regarding dilutions and applications, but I can't imagine being without

this book.

>

>

> Y'all keep smiling.   :-)  Butch   http://www.AV-AT.com

 

 

Blessings to you and your lovely bride!

 

Be well,

Elizabeth

 

Whole Life Essentials

Organic & Wild-Crafted Essential Oils & Hydrosols

Pure Botanical Products for Health, Wellbeing, & Beauty

Retail, Wholesale, Private Label, & Custom Product Design

http://www.WholeLifeEssentials.com

 

 

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Hey Elizabeth .. other good folks ..

 

On the below .. we get back to the CYA I mentioned in a previous post.

 

> By the way, if you are selling undiluted blends to the public it is

> always a good idea to assume they have no idea not to put these

> essential oil blends directly on the skin (and various other placed

> they feel moved to do so) without proper dilution and safety taken

> into consideration. It's wise to label with clear warnings, etc. when

> selling something undiluted whether a single essential oil or a blend.

> Otherwise they will think they can use it neat on their skin - or

> client's skin,, etc. Which they can not.

 

I think the above regards dermal application. If so, the potential

problems are irritation, sensitization and photo sensitization. With

some luck, irritation is a relatively easy problem to avoid and photo

sensitization is very easy one to avoid .. the odds of sensitization

occurring can be greatly reduced with proper care but its not possible

to completely avoid it under any circumstances.

 

If the above is all about sniffing or diffusing then there are no

potential problems.

 

I don't deal with blends .. I offer only single source oils. On each

bottle it tells the buyer to properly dilute before use .. that's the

best I can do unless I want to quote the stats from the Safety Manual

" Plant Aromatics " http://www.av-at.com/plantaromaticsavnp.html on each

label. If I did that it would be a difficult task but not an impossible

one. However .. when one mixes 5-6 EO neat in a blend they are making

it real difficult for the buyer to know the safe dilution. The safe

dilution will not necessarily be the lowest dilution percentage of the

most potent EO .. because there is a cumulative effect when we blend

together EO with similar chemical components.

 

I can't offer a simple solution to this potential problem .. and maybe

the problem is not one we should dwell on too much anyway because I'm

not hearing much about this being a problem. To completely CYA would

require a lot of laborious calculations .. but a simple solution might

be to recommend the buyers consider taking responsibility for their own

well being by purchasing a copy of Plant Aromatics. Even then, the

percentage of various EO would have to be known .. and that would be

giving away a trade secret.

 

Maybe the solution is to recommend the buyer purchase Plant Aromatics,

which is a well documented, scientific CYA document on safe dilution of

EO .. and then keep the fingers crossed. ;-)

 

> Elizabeth

> Whole Life Essentials

> Organic & Wild-Crafted Essential Oils & Hydrosols

> Pure Botanical Products for Health, Wellbeing, & Beauty

> Retail, Wholesale, Private Label, & Custom Product Design

> http://www.WholeLifeEssentials.com

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com